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Call me a perv, but I don't see anything wrong with appreciating what you see, as long as you aren't all creepy about it. If it is obviously being put out there to look at, then you aren't supposed to look? If she was dressed to turn heads, and turned heads, then isn't that mission accomplished? Having said that though, I have seen many women dress to turn heads and catch eyes, and then when they do (big surprise), they start the constant fussing with the clothes moving it a millimeter here and a millimeter there, all to no avail, which they knew it would be when they put that on that morning and thought yep, my cleavage and tits look great in this. But, I'm a man who knows his limitations so I don't pretend to totally understand women either

You'll be OK as long as this remains a fantasy. Act upon it and you'll find yourself in the same boat with Matt Lauer.

Something strange and can I say uncomfortable occurred a few weekends ago. We are not very involved on a regular basis in swinging. I like to say we enjoy swapping and have been to a very limited number of full swing parties. Our regular swap partners live far enough away that it is real special occasion when we visit them or they visit us. I am still not totally into girl play and as we say I am at last open to some play. We were invited to visit our friends, they told us we would be just the four of us one night and asked it was fine with us to have two other couples the next night. I hesitantly agreed. I do enjoy our friends and their house parties we attended had fun people. It does bring out a side of me I repress. Night one was everything I looked forward to. We did some play together and then swapped for the night. Next day two couples joined. The evening was a normal night of meeting new people. Knowing more was going to happen it was great that we all melded. The new couples gave a vibe of knowing themselves very well. It turned out the husband of one couple and the wife of the other couple were brother and sister. I didn’t believe them at first even when I saw a resemblance. I know I must have looked shock. They made many jokes about their relationship. Their spouses said they both knew from the very beginning and has made for interesting family get togethers. To them it was funny and made jokes about rural trash and everyone does it where they are from. I knew they were pulling my leg. I thought incest was not a real thing up to then.

Mrs Doc has a friend in her 50's back home in Pa who left a long term and bad marriage. She eventually gravitated to her half brother for advice and comfort which led to lots of intimacy and finally a sexual relationship. They may visit during the holidays and yes, Mrs Doc told her friend that we were swingers. She was intrigued. When my wife initially told me about her friend, there was a "yuk" factor for me until I thought it through. I concluded that since neither are children and they are past the procreation stage, why should I care or judge? The "yuk" factor is that I immediately thought of MY sister when I was told of this. She weighs well over 200 lbs and I NEVER want to see her naked!

I do fuck other women and we occasionally have FMF threesomes but it is rare. She clearly prefers 2 guys and the chemistry with 2 or more guys is always better for her. She fucks a lot more guys than I do women. When I first met her I think we were both on the same page sexually but she has surpassed me in becoming more sexually adventurous and kinky. She has a very intense submission fetish which she gets to enjoy with other guys. I think she is also developing an exhibitionist fetish as well. While I enjoy watching her have rough sex with other guys, I have no interest in slapping, spitting, gagging, verbally abusing, choking, etc. her while we have sex. I admit it's hot to see her getting treated that way because I know she and the guys are really enjoying it, but it's one of those things I just don't enjoy doing in my sex life. I do occasionally enjoy having sex in public places with her but even then she is much more of a risk taker than me. She doesn't mind guys taking pics and vids of her and I am 100% not down with people taking pics and vids of me, so I am much more discreet than she is.

In evaluating the profiles of prospective play partners, it’s important to understand – as Baconheads notes – that “soft swing” can mean very different things to different people. For sure, it means there won’t be vaginal penetrative sex between the non-partners. Beyond that, soft play can range from light petting with close on through oral sex between non-partners. When you see that in the profiles of a couple who look compatible, one of the first things to determine is what their definition of “soft swing” is.

He has a pretty nice boat from what I read. It said his yacht cost a million and a half dollars.

My old GF and I would do soft, which to us meant any/everything short of penetrative sex of the genitals. We kept that to ourselves. We likely would have found the right couple for full swap sooner or later but we were in no hurry. Other definitions of "soft" are touching with hands only or simply being with your own partner in the same room or bed with the other couple. We did all of those things at various times and had great fun whatever we did.

I had my ex-husband and his wife catch me (totally busted) being bent over and fucked in my living room. I thought the people at the door were a late arriving couple that had called and said they would be at the party in a few minutes. When the doorbell rang, I told them to come in. I was grunting like a piggy, telling this boy to give it to me, when I looked up and OMG they had made it all the way through the foyer to see this boy holding onto my hips, screaming, and taking his orgasm in me! Not good. So which one was it?

As a Catholic girl raised by strict parents and who went to Catholic school, I thank you. Remember too, Catholicism says no birth control. That's how I got an early introduction to being bum fucked until I got the pill from Planned Parenthood, which I had to keep well hidden. The sex ed we got in Catholic school (separate for the boys and girls) was very much about biology and not much about sex. That's why even now when having sex I think about how the guy ejaculating in me will be leaving a living part of himself swimming around inside for a few days. It's exciting knowing that usually there are living parts of two or three men in me at a time.

Fullswapclt, chiccouplexx and goldcocpl; thank you all for your response! So the “no play on first date” doesn’t bother me at all, I think that it helps filter people. Slowing things down was initially our way of ensuring the other cpls were safe and disease free. We know that a lot of couples in the lifestyle don’t test let alone share test results. So the best alternative was to get to know them a little, understand their play profile and practices and see if they are being careful and playing safe. We have been talking about this fairly regularly and she has come a long way (she comes from a very conservative family and upbringing). I guess I was hoping there was a way to bring out her adventurousness out. BTW Goldcocpl - we don’t take 6 months to get naked ?!!

Okay, this is probably going to get some comments. Incest is wrong for several reasons: If one person 'controls' another. If it's done at a young age. If there is any chance of pregnancy (and thus defects). But . . . when you are adults and there is no chance of pregnancy, is it really wrong for a brother and sister to have sex? There's a part of me that says, 'not really.'

You can be one of the nice single males. Or meet a new female partner. Get a new profile now that you are separated.

My friends know and none of them think it's gay or bi. Although most of my friends have fucked my GF with or without me joining so that could be why.

My wife does not swing, she has a bareback lover. His wife also does bareback with me. Bareback feels right and warm cum inside a girls pussy is the epitome of sex These are are only swapping friends. My wife enjoys his ample length inside her, I suspect he his better at satisfying her than I am. I'd like to watch, but when we tried same room it did not seem to work out right. After love making session, when we get home and I make love with her, it is fantastic, she is so wet and slippy. If there was no cum inside her it would not be the same His wife tells me stories about her husband's techniques and I'm sure that's part of what turns my wife on. Condoms, which she hates, would kill the spontaneity. I suggested other coples and condoms and she said no.

There we were in the afterglow of the four of us having just completed the first round of group grope sex with each other. We, the two ladies laying side by side were enjoying a face-to-face embrace and nuzzling as our opposite hubbies were spooning us, when I felt a warmness that was way beyond sexual fluids of ejaculation and oral sex. It was pooling between the other wife and my crotches and, had grown to spread both upwards and downwards. Then I felt the fluid continue to spread back to my rear between me and her hubby. Pulling back, I exclaimed "who is pissing in the bed?" We ladies quickly yelled at the men and both men claimed it wasn't them. The other wife also exhorted it wasn't her and I sure as hell knew it wasn't me! She said, "If I were going to pee on you, it would be in the shower not a bed that can get soaked." Turned out, one of our friends that had been over earlier in the day and had used our bedroom to change her infant's diaper. She didn't even think...yup...it was 1972 and she had stabbed diaper pins right into our waterbed mattress. Guess the exertion of four full grown and highly charged sexual acrobats loosened the pin holes really well. We realized what happened and our military husbands were quick to grab the duct tape for repairs, towels and fresh sheets. After all the night was young...and so were we. By the way, she was telling the truth about the shower. We two ladies literally got into a pissing contest to see which of us could pull up our pussy and pee a stream like a guy. We never laughed so hard. (Ah the virtues of Jack Daniels)