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My husband has encouraged me to have his friend stay over when he travels for business. He asked why would I want to be alone at nights. He doesn’t stay as often as he first did even if we do enjoy our nights together. He is not my lover, he is a very good friend who I have relations with. I also have a girlfriend that stays over. My husband has a woman that he sleeps with on business trips. I am happy he isn’t alone all the time when he’s away.

Male4ypleasure was response to Frank&Serra

Now that I see your definition, certain that I’m not one of those pan folks. Not I tune with orientation, identity, etc either. Before anybody says anything about “closed mind or intolerant” let me explain. My parents spent a lot of money for me to go to school. Lots of science and biology classes all the way through. If you want to cast blame for my biological intelligence, blame Father Judge and Temple. All that being said, I am 100% on board with the bacon. I don’t care whether I have the same sexual tastes as somebody, I’ll house the shit out of a couple pounds of bacon with them!

Well stated.

All things being equal Anon I agree with Numex; if your girlfriend is all the qualities you want in a woman, and enjoys sex as much as she does to boot...why not marry her? A self-actualized woman who enjoys sex like she does is a thing to behold, and its wonderful to be part of her life.

I remember seeing a poll about this on this very forum some years back. As I recall, the preference was 2:1 for MFM over FMF. For me, I prefer MFM. I'm very partial to watching my wife enjoy another man.

I have a former fiance with whom I am still very close. When we were together back in our 20s, we had a good sex life. We weren't two sexed crazed maniacs or anything, but it was good. She enjoyed sex, but it wasn't by any means a focus for her. Some years after we broke up, she and I and another friend of ours were camping together. She said at the time (this was in our 30s) "With sex, I could take it or leave it". Now, 20 years on, she tells me her sex drive is much stronger now, and she enjoys it much more than she did in the past. I don't know if she's multi-orgasmic now though.

Mrs Doc has a friend in her 50's back home in Pa who left a long term and bad marriage. She eventually gravitated to her half brother for advice and comfort which led to lots of intimacy and finally a sexual relationship. They may visit during the holidays and yes, Mrs Doc told her friend that we were swingers. She was intrigued. When my wife initially told me about her friend, there was a "yuk" factor for me until I thought it through. I concluded that since neither are children and they are past the procreation stage, why should I care or judge? The "yuk" factor is that I immediately thought of MY sister when I was told of this. She weighs well over 200 lbs and I NEVER want to see her naked!

Now you are going to question moral ethics? As shocking as siblings having sex is to many, I think it’s just another taboo the morality police put on you. Swinging is a taboo to most people. I am still learning that taboos are created by religion. Oral sex is a taboo to some. I could go on and on about morality. That is not to say I condone or would have sex with my sister. I was shocked or should I say more than willing to listen to stories when I was a teenager that so and so was fucking his sister. Don’t know how the story began or how anyone found out. A story I do believe was a friend of mine was with two sisters. I heard of more than one friend being with them. I was afraid to ask the one sister I knew if I could do it. Maybe I was just too nerdy to ask. Now I know it happens more often as I have seen siblings at our parties. I make no judgements.

This is not a problem for us. We are looking for friends first, then benefits. However, waiting a year for her to take off her clothes is probably not going to happen. Not saying that she has to be ready to jump into a full swap on the second date...there are couples that we 'dated' for quite some time and we never got to a full swap, but things need to seem like they are progressing or we will think that you are just not interested. While we strongly believe in not moving faster than the slowest member is comfortable with, no (or almost no) movement indicates a lack of interest. If this isn't fun for everyone involved, then maybe this isn't for her. The person to be asking is her...does she want to do this? What are her reasons for hesitation? Find out more of what is going on in her head. Hey, you're from CA too...just swing by the house and we can all talk

You should marry that woman.

We're not married but my GF frequently spends the night with other men. I get a little uncomfortable (for her own safety) when she spends the night with someone she just met at a bar or something but she is an adult and makes those decisions on her own. When she comes back it sometimes makes for really hot stories and/or pics and videos.

My friends know and none of them think it's gay or bi. Although most of my friends have fucked my GF with or without me joining so that could be why.

I would think that feeling each others cock cuming inside her would be a turn on.

Mine was during a mmf I was eating her pussy while he was fucking her and his dick slipped out as he was thrusting and I figured while It was there I’d give it a try and sucked his cock. Then I slid it back inside her. He had discussed previously that he wouldn’t be opposed to son male male action and that he’d experimented before. He also stroked my cock and fingered her while I was inside her then pushed both our cocks together and we double penetrated her pussy. I came almost immediately feeling our cocks rub together inside her. It was pretty hot.

I, Mrs. Fla, totally agree with you on this. To add to that, the one or two or more dick pics the husband does have quite often are being compared to something ridiculous like a beer can, TV remote, Febreze can, soda can, and on and on and on. We have also seen profiles that list as a single female but are actually a couple with a husband listed in the description but no picture and not information about him. Also, I have noticed many single male profiles that are loaded with one partial body pic followed by 6 or more dick pics or they have a bunch of female pics on their single male profile, still have not figured that one out. Finally, the profiles that only show the wifes pictures and none of the husband, when I asked if they can email me a picture of what the husband looks like to see if I would be attracted to him I get all the usual excuses...he is too shy, he can't because he is a very important public figure locally and can't be seen on a swinger site, he is famous, and so on. Do they not understand that if someone does see them on a swinger site its because they are themselves on a swinger site. Whats the issue? Ok, I'm off the box and done with my rant......

Level and frequency of desire may diminish as a person ages, but in the case of my wife and some other women I know the orgasmic response increases, at least subjectively, well into their 60s. Unlike most other sports sex may continue to improve pretty late in life.

I would love to be taken by a couple of guys in a nude beach. We go to Gunnison and any kind of sex will land you in jail. I get super horny there and would love to be able to act on it in a public setting. We went to Hedo a few years ago and we had sex right on the beach - it was incredible. We were at Blacks a few years back as well and I was able to give a couple of guys head because nobody was around - I guess it’s the thrill of being in public that is the biggest turn on.

Thanks for your insightful inputs. Btw, sorry for the confusing write up. I meant I wish the other woman to be friends with SO and I, rather than bf and me first. SO has no problem sharing me or possibly another woman (in our triad) with bf but bf has the tendency to keep his partners to himself. Bf is competitive while SO is more collaborative. Unlike your family who is somehow integrated, mine is like juggling time between 2 autonomous families. My goal is to integrate the 2 and eventually form a polycule of 5 (3m, 2f) as I mentioned before.

My turn on fantasy since I enjoy strapon sex is for my wife to bring in a guy to give me a real screwing. I’ve had girlfriends in the past threaten it but it has never happened. Finding a safe guy STD free was the main problem. The closest I got was in a BDSM three way with a couple and the Dommes husband took video of his wife working me over including strapon play. She was in the process of getting us to fuck but they left town before it happened.

I was with a man for the first time since I was married, not planned, it just happened on a vacation. It happened a few years ago and I still think of that first time. I love my husband and trust him to love me. I did feel a little jealous that he was with someone new. Didn’t want to know all the details of his night and thought he might feel the same. Our second day with the couple was more trying and almost gave up on the the thought of ever doing it again. Alone with my husband I explained my feelings. I even used the word Love in our friend made love to me. I never said we fucked. I said we made love. My husband was understanding after I told him that the second day I felt like I was fucked by a stranger. The man I was with was both a lover and a stranger. The second day I was a sex object, in front of my husband. The first night I was loved and reacted as a woman making love. My husband enjoyed the fact that I enjoyed. Since that first day we have played a few times mostly in separate rooms and a few times in the same room. I have seen him enjoy and he has watched me play too. He certainly knows when I orgasm and has watched me have some intense ones.

Maybe kind of vanilla but they have a four-way with 4 really cute Young thin tight smooth guys , All taking turns with me, just chatting and having a fun time. I know kind of boring but the things we could do.

We’re 68 (M) and 63 (F). Ten days ago, we played with a couple who are 48 (M) and 45 (F). We guess they must have seen something in us when were talking, because it was actually the younger woman who proposed going to the playroom. And we guess we must have done something right once we got there, because they’ve sent us two emails saying they want to see us again. Imagine our surprise that we did the “cougaring”! (They were SUPER themselves, by the way!)

I'm really glad you shared this and I want to share it with my wife. We're brand new to the LS as well and we've had a few couples significantly older than us but one in particular that reached out on SLS and has been trying to get together for drinks and see where things lead. It's good to see that such a large age gap still resulted in a great experience! Not sure what hall pass means though. Could you please clarify? Thanks for sharing!

True, it is difficult to discover the qualities we are looking for from a SLS profile. We’ve met people at house and hotel parties with whom we’ve had fun. But if we just saw their SLS pictures/profile, we might not have been attracted. Their personal characteristics outweighed their appearance.

At least you didn’t have sex with them and then find out they lack tact.

Padoc, you have posted a couple of photos on the board of Mr. Doc and anyone who’s seen those images would totally agree with your assessment of her. She is indeed sexy and beautiful.

Hi all. We are doing this right now and it's our first time swinging. My wife is staying with her lover for almost a week. She knew him from before and had him provide all kinds of personal information to us. They are at hotels the entire trip and I have their itinerary. I'm taking care of the kids this week while my wife has fun with him. I have never met him but trust my wife unconditionally. We'll let you know how it works out and share our successes and ways to improve, too. Please feel free to share on our post, too. Thanks and happy holidays.

When I was dating my wife 6 years ago I told her that I suck dick. She said that she had never seen that before and asked me if I can go without it. I told her I've been without it for a long time before, but that I would want her to watch and soon. 5 years later I still hadn't done it. After much prodding she reluctantly agreed to watch and nothing else. I set one up and we met him at a bar. She backed out. We were discussing this and if I was ever going to get to do it with her and she asked me what kind of penis I liked. We got online and went to a penis site. We started sharing what we like about penises. How they feel in the mouth how much we enjoyed sucking on them and giving each other tips. She came home next day with a strap-on. She wanted to get used to seeing me with one in my mouth. About a month goes by and she brought her ex son-in-law over the house. She had told him about my sucking dick months ago when we were arguing about this. She quickly lead us to the bedroom. She pulled me down by the shoulders in front of him and said "suck his dick". I put my hands and mouth on his pants. Smelled it, it was musky. It was growing quickly. I start to unfasten his pants and she quickly said you like it? I checked it out. I did. It was gorgeous. About 7 to 8 inches long with a strong veiny shaft. High and tight balls with just the right amount of hair. The head was the best I've seen. It was like a Triceratops Shield. It was musky. He hadn't showered since he got off work. He stepped out of the shoes I pulled his pants down to his ankles. He stepped out of them. His dick was sticking almost straight up. I buried my nose in his nuts. These were the most potent smell. I actually loved it. I licked and lipped my way on the underside of his shaft till I got to the head. It took a while to deep throat. My wife sat silently on the bed. I timed it. It took almost 25 minutes for him to come. I'm still on my knees cleaning up and she calls me cocksucker. I actually wanted to hear that but she said it with such disdain in her voice. He got his pants on and left. She felt the whole thing was disgusting. And I wasn't the man she wanted. We separated and we're two months into our divorce. She called me up. She said she was dating a guy who always wanted to try that. Said she would help. She had changed. She helped me suck him and help him suck me. She fucked us both. I didn't like what happened at the end of the night. She stayed with him and I went home.

i think it is hot and i like to watch that a guy sucks cock and get fucked.

I've encountered exactly what FantasyFetish is describing - a friend strongly proclaiming that 1) any guy interested in a MFM threesome must be bi, and 2) no man that loves his wife would be ok with another guy fucking her. And yes, these are otherwise good guys who aren't Neanderthals about relationships, conservative about sex in general, etc. My only answer is that for some, swinging Does . Not . Compute. For others, FMF or couple on couple may kinda make sense to them, but MFM? Does . Not . Compute. They seriously just can't wrap their minds around it, and so the easiest way to avoid that is just to make some broad blanket statements to keep the subject put to rest.

It is my dream for my wife to watch me suck a fat cock! Lick it, and suck it. And when he is just about to blow, she grabs his pulsating dick and jacks him off into my mouth!! Maybe one day we will find the right person.

OMGosh I would have sooo stayed in the room and gotten myself off multiple times! I can't imagine walking out on that, darn girl you must have wanted to get "freaky" or something to leave THAT. As for your husband not getting there any time soon, I feel you. It has taken years to get my husband comfortable with my fantasies of having him suck a guy, let a guy cum in his mouth, and do him anally as well as cum in him. Now when I talk about it, he gets hard, leaks like mad, and I can do him royally up his anal hole as well as feed him all the cum I can get out of him in a day. I have been writing this lovely bi man who we may eventually hook up with and see how it goes. I had him so turned on earlier today that I believe if I had three guys in waiting my hubby would still be going at it as I type this.

I love when the wife will give me oral and then help me slowly slide my dick with all her juices on it into her husbands ass...bareback style (safe/trusting couple of course) and then pounding him, slapping that ass and then busting the biggest nut into his ass while she watches and pleases herself.

I love fucking a guy and then seeing the intense sex between him/his wife that follows. Dominating him, having his wife see him as a cock sucking, bottom bitch...mmmm yummy

I dated a woman who wanted to watch me have sex with another man. I couldn't go that far but I let her use vibrators and dildos in my ass. She masturbated herself to orgasms pretending she was a man fucking my ass.

This is the female half and I say it would be so hot to watch my man do that. I just do not see that happening anytime soon. I will be there for him when he does. We were just on a trip and while at one party there was a large group of gay/bi men playing and that was hot as hell. I could have stayed and watched all night... but I needed some attention for myself.

We are both bi and it's a huge turn-on for me to see him suck a dick or get taken from behind. He was bi before I met him and I think it's great that he can be himself.

Sexual addiction is like any other type of addiction. It becomes the ruling thing in your waking life. Sex becomes a way to deal with the pressures of the world rather than for pleasure. One can have an addiction to almost anything if the desire for it over rules common sense and thoughts of other things. If family life, work and personal time for others suffers because of wanting & having sex to the exclusion of all else, then you might be addicted.

I honestly don't know a great deal about sex addiction. However, if it is like other forms of addiction it is not about having a huge sex drive. It is about allowing sex to run and even ruin your life. Think about people who are emotional overeaters. Food is wonderful and necessary, but no one really enjoys binging. No one enjoys the results of overindulgence in food - illness, obesity, public shame. And I assume that sex addicts don't actually enjoy sex, but instead feel driven to constant sexual encounters, feel out of control and distressed by the results. Those results can include destroyed relationships, shame, even jail time! So yeah, I'd say there's a huge difference between swinging and sexual addiction.

This is one of those topics I tend to take a little issue with. If you don't know this, for several years I was a webgirl. There is a difference between a webgirl and a prostitute. I didn't have sex for money, people just paid me to watch/see the sex I had. I put webgirls pretty much in a category similar too (but still not quite the same as) strippers. I've known many of BOTH, and yes some of them have had issues. Some of them (just like some swingers I've met) were doing it only to please their partners. Some were doing it just for the money (typically strippers), but I've known some who just outright love what they do. When I was doing it, that was why I did it, and when I stopped that was why I stopped. I did have some people who looked at my pictures of what I did and while they enjoyed looking at the pictures, their attitude was that they would not want to have sex with me because I was "too experienced" or because they put me in the category (in their mind) of a prostitute. Others enjoyed what I did and wanted to be a part of it (whether on camera or not). I am what I am. This tidbit about me, is not something you are likely to find out in an initial general conversation, but I am honest about it. If the topic comes up I will share, just as I will honestly share about other experiences I have had, if the topic comes up. However, I'm not one to just go saying "hey well you know I've......" (fill in the blank). I assume if you are talking to me or if you want to have sex with me, then it's because you like me. If finding out what I've done in my past (or even if it's what I still do) affects your desire to have sex with me, then you have an interesting means in judging me. I'm still the same person whether you know that information about me or not. If you talk to me and deem me to have issues that would turn you off, then by all means walk away.

Ditto. I especially love to kiss my husband with the taste of pussy still on his face. I love the smells and tastes of sex, too. As long as everybody's clean going into it, it's all good.