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We don’t look at ads and had to Google HWP. I don’t know if I am and those charts you posted are crazy. I have a question, do both people have to be HWP? “The Perfect Couple”. We have friends where one might have a perfect body and one is a little overweight. I have friends that are so skinny that I hate them. I am betting most men would say they are HWP, they’re not! They are skinny (bitches lol). I have friends that are a little big and the husbands are what I consider hot. Who decides if they pass the test? I also have a friend who has a body I literally wish I had, her boyfriend is overweight, someone I would say I am not physically attracted to. You know what, he’s a sweetie. He joined in at a party we were at. Talking about taking one for the team, and I’ll say don’t take a book by its cover. I can also say his weight was not an issue. He was fun and I see what my friend enjoys.

As a woman who likes both men and women, I like getting the best of both worlds, so it's FFM for me - having a dick in my pussy while I am licking Clair or Lora - there's nothing better. Or being licked while jealously watching one of my men fucking her... But I can see MFM being practical if you're a couple looking for a third. Guys are up for anything so long as they get their turn with a woman.

SLS site is not always user friendly. Not wild about the updated chats. Email function especially when accessing the site from a mobile device. (I won’t install The App because I don’t want anyone to see it and do most browsing in Private mode.) Looked at Hot Date for events this coming weekend and it’s all goofy. No more events, only a handful of postings near me(that can’t be right). Zero events?!?! Even when directed to the events page. Come on, we do mostly clubs, house parties, and the occasional hotel party and rarely meet 1:1 these days. Come on, bring it back or make it more user friendly again.

Yes we agree the site has been made less user friendly. As for the Hot Date not showing much, go up and look for the "change location" button, there once you put in a different distance, you will be able to see dates further from your location. As for the "Please note: Items on this calendar may take up to 5 minutes to appear." mentioned on the site. They mean that once you create a hot date yourself, it may take 5 minutes before it's in the system. But yes some people have just sat and waited 5 minutes to see if the content updated.

We weren’t intimidated we were encouraged knowing the woman we only knew as someone who frequented a bar club we went to often knew enough to let us have fun. It excited us thinking and wondering how many others we knew at the club she had been with. Our reservation came from fear of diseases. A single woman willing to join us had to have a sexual past.

We usually use our phones to access sls site, my wife has used the laptop for it a few times but mainly our mobile devices. I’ve never used their chat option so we don’t miss it. We get IM’s and of course they did away with mail. Hot date section is a hot mess. Downloaded the app yesterday. Looks cool and easy to navigate, until you realize it’s missing half of the shit on the site. “Who viewed me” on the site has everybody that viewed our profile, missing half of them on the app. Sorry for rambling, yes I agree, they’re really screwing up that site.

Had not visited Hot Date in a while. Looks like you're right; events are no longer appearing on the hot-date calendar. I had to chuckle when I saw the new footnote, "Please note: Items on this calendar may take up to 5 minutes to appear." Did you wait your five minutes? I didn't. I have better things to do with my time. Regarding the message/chat business, neither messages nor chats can be viewed on a mobile device. The most recent message is off the bottom of the frame and scrolling is not possible. The SLS people have definitely made some poor decisions.

It is not like SLS really gives a care.

We are still new to swinging as we only have had a few experiences. To me every man has been enormous while I really know most were about as hung as I am. None were humongous up to one couple we met last month. A swing couple we know invited us to join another couple. My wife was told beforehand that the friend was pretty big and she told me before our meet. She was afraid for a week and I kept encouraging her to enjoy. Also said she could also stop anytime she wanted. She made me promise to not leave her alone with him. Night of our party he was pretty big. Again to me every man we have met looked big, this one was really bigger. She looked scared. I again encouraged her. The wife encouraged her too saying it is big but it doesn’t hurt. It was a funny conversation to listen to. The third wife and mine played with him and finally it came time to do the deed. As promised I strayed my wife squeezing my hand as he entered her. Deep gasps and moans as he slowly put it in. It almost sounded like her birthing class. I wasn’t as intimidated as I thought I would be. Once they got going it was pretty much the same as I saw before with smaller men. She later told me it was much bigger going in and then felt good. I was happy for her having a good time.

I'm not ready to have the marriage discussion just yet lol

Sounds like there is a blur between fiction, fantasy and reality in this guys head. It's like he's looking for the fictional whore with a heart of gold or the stripper supporting her sick mom while working her way thru med school. Hunting a unicorn might be more productive for him Numex.

I've read through this entire thread relieved there are other guys who feel this way. It wasn't always so with me. We were active in the lifestyle in our 30s.Played with couples and single ladies. There was one single lady we were with for 6 wonderful years. We had a lot of fun, have a lot of good memories and no complaints :-) We never met a single guy. She did play with guys, but it was always a part of a couple, and it was always kind of tame. Then we drifted away from it all. Today we are in our late 50s, 30+ years married, love each other to bits, have loads of fun together. About a year ago, I started having fantasies about undressing her in front of another man, exposing her. I couldn't stop thinking about it but I dunno, I felt funny telling her. After all these years, this coming out of the blue, I couldn't explain these urges.I felt embarrassed. Did some searching online, read about Candaulism and that's what led me here to this thread. Few weeks ago, out at a bar having a few drinks, told her about it and she loved it, we had a great time together that night, thinking about it. We've answered a few ads and traded emails with a few men and we've found two so far that have interested us. We've told them that we're anxious but we're anxious to do this right so we want to build trust by email, then phone and then meet. So far, so good - fingers crossed. So that's where we are, have some questions for those who've been where I am now but will save for another post. Just wanted to say hi!

My husband has encouraged me to have his friend stay over when he travels for business. He asked why would I want to be alone at nights. He doesn’t stay as often as he first did even if we do enjoy our nights together. He is not my lover, he is a very good friend who I have relations with. I also have a girlfriend that stays over. My husband has a woman that he sleeps with on business trips. I am happy he isn’t alone all the time when he’s away.

Well stated.

Pansexual; attracted to/open to all people regardless of their gender, orientation, identity, etc. And, I don't think you have to be even a little bit gay to enjoy watching another man's penis go into your wife. It's not about the guy, it's about the pleasure your wife is getting from it.

A little intimidated, more envious & admiring. Is also attractive as a 'growth' experience for me, and a bit of a ego boost when she is satisfied. The exception would be a woman with low self esteem, who is acting a slut & making friends the wrong way. Most of the high experience women I've met were very secure and in control of them selves & I admired them for that.

Now you are going to question moral ethics? As shocking as siblings having sex is to many, I think it’s just another taboo the morality police put on you. Swinging is a taboo to most people. I am still learning that taboos are created by religion. Oral sex is a taboo to some. I could go on and on about morality. That is not to say I condone or would have sex with my sister. I was shocked or should I say more than willing to listen to stories when I was a teenager that so and so was fucking his sister. Don’t know how the story began or how anyone found out. A story I do believe was a friend of mine was with two sisters. I heard of more than one friend being with them. I was afraid to ask the one sister I knew if I could do it. Maybe I was just too nerdy to ask. Now I know it happens more often as I have seen siblings at our parties. I make no judgements.

For me, it depends on how the spinach is prepared.

For some reason, I feel compelled to clarify my response. By "One at a time," I meant one in me at a time. I actually prefer when they take turns sharing me going back and forth. It's exciting not knowing what's going to happen next - Are they getting ready to switch? Will he want to flip me over or stay the way I am? Does he want me to get on top? Which one will cum in me first? Is it going to be this time? After the first guy cums, the second is quick to follow. We've had variations on this where they would be in and out of my bum, or switching off but with one guy going in my pussy and one in my bum, or after the first guy cums he switches doing oral on me until he's hard again. I've also done this with three, and once four men, but there were other women there too, we were just swapping quickly for fun and all of the cum wasn't put in me. (Makes me sound like a real swinger, but I've only been with five guys in my life; and yeah, and more women than that.) DPs can be nice, but the positions are not that comfortable or conducive to good fucking.

It really is a turn on.

To that last question…..swinger, definitely!!!!! Cheating causes pain to flow down hill from the person cheated on to the kids and friends and down through extended family. There might be a "yuk" factor for dependent children or even adult children discovering that their parents are swingers but a little "yuk" is a much better outcome than the anger, recriminations and the choosing of sides that happens in a cheating situation.

Personal choice on this issue. No my kids will never know. Little shits are to judgemental (especially as they became adults). It’s non of their business. They don’t tell us about the private aspects of their lives and I don’t share mine/ours either. As for they’ll figure it out eventually maybe or maybe not. Not everything has to be shared with your kids. You don’t have to explain it, talk about it, or justify it to them it’s something outside of their business. For some people, it’s a freeing experience but for us we’re staying away from sharing that aspect of our lives.

We agree with GoldCoCouple. Kids don't want to know. But in our case we have four boys. The two oldest is ours but the two youngest are racial mixed fraternal twins, an accident from swinging. Our boys were 11 and 9 when they were born. They wanted to know why their new brothers were black. They knew the facts of life. The oldest bluntly asked his mom if she F__ked a black man. She said yes. He asked why and she said she wanted to. He asked if we were going to get a divorce. We both answered hell no at the same time and told them we were not. They both smiled and sighed relief, hi-fives, looked up at the ceiling and said thank God. That was the end of that. Everyone assumed they were adopted. Our boys never asked anymore questions. My oldest is 46. I asked him about two years ago if he knows we are swingers. He laughed and said yes. His two black brothers were a big big clue. He said his brother and him just didn't want to know any more than that. We didn't want you two to divorce like a lot of our friends parents. We loved you so. Always be truthful to your kids no matter how embarrassing or hurtful the truth is. They may not like it, but they will respect you for it.

Trust me on this: the only person who wants to know LESS about your sex life is your kids. Even if they find something out, they won't want to know anything about it.

We have visited the Sunnyrest nudist resort near Allentown, PA. We were told by couples we met there that the population are about 3/4 lifestyle people! However, because there are families with children there, people keep things platonic in the common areas. They reserve their flirty activity for the adults-only parts of the program (e.g., in the disco, which doesn't allow children), and reserve actual sexual activity for the privacy of the tent/camper/RV/room!

There is a stigma to MMF witht e guys fooling around, so it is usually done in a closed room. I like to suck a cock. I like the guy sucking me. I love to eat my wifes cream pie, or his wifes. Sometimes, when we have a threesome at home, we experiment more, and it is sexy. No man has ever cumm while I sucked, but several have sucked me until I cumm. If it were not so dangerous, I would love to be butt fucked, and feel the cumm spurt. I guess I am bi, but only mildly so. Otto

we let the other couple we are playing with that nearly anything goes. My man has no problem touching the other man, I do enjoy watching him service all of us. It was funny on one occassion, he was licking and sucking the guy and i was doing the same to the woman, then the couples switched and then switched again, this went on until we all came together in a pile with everyone touching and grabbing and licking and sucking each other.