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Too funny! We had somebody send us a message yesterday on sls. IM was just a “hey there, great profile”. Ok, let’s check him out. His profile says he’s there to satisfy your wife when you can’t. You can watch her get the fuck of her life, or some bullshit like that. Delete message, block profile. We, like 99% of others in the lifestyle I’d guess, didn’t get into this because either one of us were unsatisfied. We got into it because we satisfy the hell out of each other and enjoy sharing that satisfaction with others.

That would be worth bragging about.

My husband was watching while i was reverse cowgirl in a special friend. I was getting off watching him stroking his hard cock while I was getting hit in the perfect spot by my partner so I invited him to eat my pussyfooted to take me over the edge. My husband started on me and to my surprise also worked on my partner’s shaft while he was sliding in and out. I pulled my partner out and held his hard penis and asked my husband to suck him. He took him in his mouth and started to give him an amazing bj while I held his head. Watching him made me climax. My partner said he was going to cum so I put him back inside me while my husband worked on his balls and cleaned the cum as he ran out of me. It was my first bi male experience and we have had many similar since.

I totally agree with you. Likewise, I typically search for people over the age of 40. I have children in their early 30's! Something about that is creepy you know...

Much like us, it was at the wives' urging that we guys sucked each other's dicks. Did either of you ejaculate in the other's mouth? That was the toughest part for me, but we both swallowed. Same with us doing anal, but different couple. The women said that if we're going to continue expecting to push it into their butts, they wanted to see us do it to each other. We both did it both ways. Now that we got that out of the way, we're back to putting into the women.

That's why I wear my cod piece. I'd be more impressed if you told us you were able to retrieve it with your tongue.

That’s why we were so comfortable with the situation. Had good clean fun last night, lots of laughs and set up our next “date”

I gotcha, possibly just the asshole factor. Whatever you do, wherever you go, you’re bound to run into some assholes. We don’t do the chat rooms, I think my wife has checked them out a few times but not a normal occurrence. First house party we ever went to all the chat was about swinging. We know why we’re here, let’s chat for a minute to see if we’re a good match. In all honesty, if we make the effort to go to a party or meet somebody at a bar, we’re pretty much a sure thing. We’d like to chat a bit before we hit the sheets to get a brief idea of who you are in person, and if you’re not an asshole we’re getting naked. I can’t get a feel for who somebody is if all they talk about is swing partners and conquests. Needless to say we didn’t play at that party.

After we started playing with others, my wife found it very easy to have multiple orgasms. Before that she often didn't have orgasms at all.

Well like everything in this lifestyle it is just her personal preference at the age of 35 not to play with men over the age of 50! She is the woman and she is the one who has the power in this lifestyle to make the choices she wants to. Just like a lot of women in their early 30’s are not interested in playing with a guy that is 48 like myself. I don’t take it personal and can totally respect and understand that. If they clearly say on their profile an age limit and I don’t meet it I don’t message them hoping that I am going to be the exception. No reason I should be. I am lucky enough to have someone who is so much younger then me as my partner in life, but I by no means looked for that. It just happened. It does however have an effect on our swinging life finding compatible couples with such a big age difference between us. Doesn’t seem to have near as much of an effect finding singles that are interested in joining us which is pretty okay with us.

We really don’t understand why so many people that have on their profile must be drug free still contact us even though it is clear as can be by our profile that we are not drug free! Is it selective on which dirty druggies they will play with and which they won’t? Had another squeaky clean drug free couple hit us up today online wondering what we were up to tonight. We replied that we were going to be smoking a whole bunch of pot and hanging out with a friend. Then pointed out that they were only looking for drug free and we are not. Yes we still have the ability to read profiles with all that pot we have smoked that is supposed to make us stupid. It amazes us that all these drug free people can go through life without ever having caffeine, alcohol, pain killers or prescription drugs which are all drugs. All the power to them for being so toxic free, but that kind of life is not for us.

Isn't the the start of about half of the porn milf movies? Bam chicka wow wow

50 sounds worse than it is if you keep yourself in reasonable shape and remain healthy. Menopause presents a bigger impediment to good and frequent sex than does a birthday number. HRT can address that in both women and men. I agree with Jane on this, Mrs Doc's orgasms generally became more intense, happened more easily and more frequently after 50. I don't know if there is a direct connection but it seems that change in orgasm patterns seemed to correlate with our increasing comfort with swinging.

Really? Clair, Lora and I all ramped up after 30 and was the reason we found a boyfriend to share who supplements what we get at home from our two guys. Fifty doesn't look so dreadful anymore!

Well we met for dinner and a couple for drinks - his treat. It was pretty vanilla on the surface. Wee talked about our common interest in nudism and about beaches and resorts we have been to. Several times he commented about people inviting him to play and said he declined "I like my wife thanks". But he said if didn't bother him if they got it on. I got the feeling of you know "the lady doth protest too much." There definitely seemed to be some chemistry - the way he looked at my wife and she at him. Maybe I'm just imagining things. He has commented in the past the she looks great and is very sexy. He loves her pierced nipples. Said he wishes his wife would get her done. He's a great guy and it looks like we will meet his wife in a couple of weeks. She is not really into nudism except at home. WE told him about a resort we just came back from which has bot textile and nude areas. It would be a great low key introduction for her. He is very interested. He is very laid back but definitely a real MAN. (Certainly has a nice looking cock on him as we know from the nude beach. Thicker than mine even soft and looks like it is probably a fair bit longer hard too. Nice big helmet head. She would love it if she would just try it. Like everything else, takes her forever to try something new but once she does she's into it big time. Anal was the same way, now she loves it and pegs me too. We have invited him to our house next week for dinner and my wife surprised me how eager she seemed to do that when I suggested it. I'm going to take it slow and see what happens. If that goes well I am going to suggest he just stays over at our house each week instead of getting a hotel. If nothing else it will be good company. He like the same beers as me and wines. We talked about port and chocolate. We have some ports - and some chocolate pot truffles, maybe if we do some with him she will loosen some of her inhibitions. It would definitely give her an excuse. I would really love to watch her having some great uninhibited sex and not be distracted by being intimately involved myself. Well we shall see where it goes, may something, maybe not. It sure would be a great intro to swinging finally. If nothing happens he is still a cool guy and a good friend. Can't wait to meet his wife too, she sounds cool.

In 1969, I was in Europe and lucky enough to be at the Isle of Wight Music Festival. It was England's answer to Woodstock. Many of the same artists were featured. Some friends, including myself, went to the beach where we found a waterfall coming off the rocky cliff. We all showered. Air-drying afterwards, we watched a fellow who would approach a nude lady walking along the beach and ask her if she'd care to have sex in the sand. Most didn't answer, but pushed beyond him and continued on their way. One, however, stopped, looked him in the eye for a moment. Then she stepped into his arms and delivered an enormous kiss. She stepped back from the encounter and said, "No, thank you," and went on her way, leaving his penis waving at the horizon. This has nothing to do with the question, but I thought I'd share the experience.

Hubby and I call ourselves an "open minded couple". We have wondered if we are actually defined as swingers. Having same room sex with another couple and swapping partners is very very hot and fun to us. I think trying to "define" any part of this life choice is useless. We do not even go so far as to call it a lifestyle! I mean we like going to Nascar races and football games and we read a lot of blogs and forums on said subjects but we do not label that aspect of our lives as a "lifestyle" In my personal opinion if you and your partner have sex with "extra" partners while apart from each other that is an "open" relationship. If you and your partners choose to have sex with other people at the same time that is called...what...?? Some say swinging, some say group sex....I mean we could just go on and on all day and night trying to make up a definition that is all encompassing..I say let's just all do what makes us hot, in the way that makes us hot!!!! I am getting hot just thinking about it!!!

I'd say if the person quoted actually thinks that, they've got some learning to do about swinging. One of the chief reasons my wife and I choose to play together is that we are together. We want to see each other having fun, enjoying things, making the sounds that come with it. Playing separate room doesn't bring that for us. Plus, my wife likes the pleasure of having two men at once. Can't do that if we're in separate rooms. It's also a safety issue for my wife. She doesn't like the idea of playing with someone new without me in the room. We're currently on the lookout for a consistent (not monogamous necessarily) single male for my wife to play with. If such a person becomes a regular, my wife has had sex with him many times, and we trust him, then I'm ok with her playing with him alone. I think it'd be fun to come home and hear her moans coming from the bedroom. But, it'd have to be someone we know and trust and have played with several times before.

I would really disagree with that statement. I am not super comfortable with my SO going off with another guy simply because I worry about her safety. On top of that, part of the joy for us is doing these things together. To say that we can't handle swinging because we prefer to do it together seems a little ridiculous IMHO. Now If you wanted to say we weren't the highest level of swinger because we only did same room that would be fine. Just invent some new name for us and then people can debate what really makes somebody qualify to have that title as well. Who knows, maybe we can't handle "swinging", but we like having sex with people other than each other, and we like it a lot. Call it whatever the hell you want, we don't care.

Once again it appears that someone writes a book saying Swinging is their way or no way. If that was the case I could make up 1000's of "what if's" and most would not qualify to call their self a "swinger". Life is what you make of it, this Lifestyle is what you make of it. Lifestyle books are good for fixing short table legs.

I have to agree with rpu3 and Biloxi. That statement alone is false. I don't have a problem with seeing Dave with someone else and he doesn't have a problem with me being with someone else, but there are several reasons we don't do the separate room thing. We wouldn't appreciate someone else pushing their agenda on us by telling us because we can't handle it, we're going to fail as swingers. I think we're pretty successful as swingers in a general definition -- even though we don't do separate rooms.

As one in an open marriage, I find it somewhat a bullshit statement for swinging. While some swingers may play alone, I feel playing together is the default, not the exception, in swing-land. I think there's an entirely different mentality involved with being able to go off and play alone versus swinging together. Some swingers may be able to do both successfully, but personally, I'm not very fond of that statement as I am sure there are plenty on this board who might find it difficult to let their SO go off on their own (be it another room or completely separate), but who really thrive in a traditional swing environment. Obviously others' mileage may vary. If the statement was "If you can't handle seeing your partner enjoying sex with another, then swinging isn't for you", I'd be more inclined to agree. Just my .01.

"If you can't handle your partner (fill in the blank _____________) someone else, you can't really handle swinging." Just different levels of comfort. The statement is trying to force other people's comfort levels/rules on you.