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Then there is the 1982 movie Tootsie, where Dustin Hoffman, playing an unemployed actor (Michael) pretends to be a woman (Dorothy) just to land a job. The hot Jessica Lange character confides in Dorothy that she wishes men would be honest and forthright if they wanted to have sex; she would respect that. A scene or two later, when Hoffman is Michael again and meets Lange at a party, he uses this insight, saying to her: "You know, I could lay a big line on you and we could do a lot of role-playing, but the simple truth is, is that I find you very interesting and I'd really like to make love to you." She throws her drink at him and slaps him. Both sentiments are true. Women are situationally complex and I understand her dichotomy. She actually liked Michael, so him treating her simply as a sex partner insulted her. If it was just some random guy she probably would have considered his offer of sex on the merits.

Thanks everyone for the bleak outlook. Lol very familiar with the area as it is where the male half grew up. SPAC and the track in the summer along with the lake. Winter tubing and skiing at West Mountain. We do need to pick up the cold weather gear though. We don’t think the shorts and flip flops will hold up through winter...ha ha We will try SLS and maybe some of the places that replaced online adds like Craigslist.

Personally, we're comfortable enough in our skin at this point that if people could be trusted to behave decently, we wouldn't care. However, too many people are demented gossips or have poor boundaries, so we're not letting that fact out locally and make an effort to keep it deniable. The baggage about the taboo of promiscuity is complicated enough that a lot of people rationalize cheating as morally superior to honesty. "We were doing something that was wrong whether or not we were honest about it, so at least we had the decency to try to cover it up."

If we meet people it is always in a public place like a pub! We are only going to have them come to our place or go to theirs if everyone is on board to play. If that is the case it doesn’t take long before one or both of us will start kissing our play friends. If they have a no kissing rule we won’t be playing with them anyways. Once sensual kissing has begun the rest just flows naturally. Bad kissers can slow the progress.

My us we are pretty much on board with GoldCouple. There is something else though. Having a wife whose sex life is based on a religious monogamy is far, far from a bad thing. We fit into that pattern while we were raising our family. The sex was brilliant and inventive. If that is where you end up count your blessings. If it follows scriptural norms for the duties of a couple one to the other and the ideals of relationship also therein it will be a great experience. We only stepped into the lifestyle because I(M) wanted to give my wife more possibilities and to help her to realize in herself the woman that I always saw. We did not do it because there was anything lacking, far from it.

Are you here because you are researching and trying to work up the nerve to bring up the idea of swinging? Or have you alreaday brought it up and you are now both researching together? Which half of the couple (if a couple) are you and which one of you brought up the idea of swinging? If it hasn't been brought up yet, then share what you are hoping to discover.

For women especially, the number of sex partners is somehow more of an issue than the amount of sex she's having. A woman who has had twenty different sex partners over twenty years, 17 to 37, is considered more experienced than a woman who has only one partner during the same time. And it doesn't matter if the first woman had bland sex occasionally, while the second was fucking twice a day every which way.

We did it once when our group of couples first formed and we decided to be closed to any outside play and be bareback among ourselves. When we've had other couples join our group, they couldn't play until they were tested twice months apart. We were all retested at those times.

From what I know of men, even vanilla sexually conservative guys wouldn't have a problem with their wife or girlfriend having a sexual relationship with a woman. Unless a guy has really low self-esteem, he doesn't feel threatened. It's great how you guys went from having some problems the first time to actually encouraging each other to have some fun when you two are apart.

We use a private company and pay for the blood test ourselves. That way we keep the results private. Everyone in the lifestyle should be tested.

This explains why there are so many food channels. May I add, men like watching because men like watching sex, especially when it is live with the expectation that they will get some too. As a woman I find it much more exciting when it is someone (male or female) or both who I love, so I get a jealousy buzz. This happens a lot in our poly family situation where I have an emotional attachment to the other four. On the other hand, I have objective pleasure but don't get that jealous excitement when, say, Lora is fucking our mutual fuck buddy, or hubby gets a blowjob from his wife.

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I can’t answer the why but my husband says he loves watching me give him a blow job. He says I get this intense look on my face that’s different from what I have during sex.

This is probably my longest-lasting kink, and the one I asked her about first that got us started. I've always liked watching women give head, to me or anyone else. I don't have an easy explanation for the appeal, but maybe it's a purely performative, pleasure-giving act. A woman giving great head is working entirely on someone else's orgasm. It's still a very intimate act but in a different way from intercourse, and a woman giving great head to a stranger can seem variously incredibly generous, fun-loving, and promiscuous. Fun-loving, sexual women in general turn me on.

I was just starting to write a post about this in another thread. The traditional stigma against promiscuity is so strong that a lot of people are more outraged by the idea that someone would be open about something they believe is inherently "wrong" than by the act itself, because the opinions of the participants don't actually matter. "Yes, my wife got drunk and blew my brother, but she's a good person who had the decency to lie about it!" A lot of successful single guys figure out pretty quickly that their reputation for keeping their mouth shut is a big predictor of women lining up for casual sex, and this is why.

Mfm all the way. My wife loves her girl time but we can get that with couples. With mfm, it’s all about her being pleasured as much as possible. She likes dvp too so that’s a huge turn on for me. When the second cock enters her pussy, she turns into an animal. For us, the easiest way to pull it off is her on top in cowgirl leaning over chest to chest with one of the guys While the second enters her doggy style.

Mr Idaho here. I think that an older couple is willing to take it slower. At 25 I wasn't interested in the journey....just the destination. When you are younger you are interested in getting off. Now I like to enjoy the feelings the look on the Missus face. The flirting gets more risque as the evening wears on the touching gets more bold. I also think there is a lot less jealousy as you get older. I already know who I'm going home with.

Been here, done that. Ask where in the bible that it says sex isn't suppose to be enjoyable. What about all of the people in the old testament that had multiple wives...and where did it say that was wrong. How about 'forsaking all others'...what does that even mean (not what do we THINK it means). To forsake another person is to leave them entirely, usually in a moment of need. Forsake may mean simply giving something up, such as a way of life or a homeland, for something better or more appropriate. Swinging almost always INCLUDES your partner (in some manor) and if you are doing it right (like you two seem to have done in the past) you didn't abandon or leave the other behind, but did this together as one. Having an affair is wrong because one is doing this without the other and without caring for the consequences...forsaking (or leaving) their partner. Now knowing these things and KNOWING these things are two different things, but she needs to hear them and think about them. Guilt is for something you did that you know was wrong but you did it anyways. God wants us to be happy, not punishing us with guilt and/or remorse, especially when it is something that also makes our partner happy at the same time.

When it's me in an MFM situation, whether with my wife or another woman, I prefer going second because it's more exciting to watch pre-orgasm than after the post-cum let down. Whether we double team her in any way for any time is always totally up to her. It's both watching a woman enjoy her self and how she responds that's a turn on for me, but I'm also thinking about how it will be with me and her, getting the sloppy seconds.

We got into swinging when we were in our early 50s. I remember what a turn on it was - for that matter it still is. After decades of monogamy, to be able to appreciate a woman without fear of reprisal. For my wife to have a great time flirting, which was something she did very well until we committed to each other. So, if both people are on the same page, just going with the flow is so liberating!

And I'd like to identify as wealthy but that won't get me a Bentley convertible! OP, many of the regular posters here ARE middle aged, us included. We have met a lot of new couples in our age bracket. The only problem we've found is that while we are grandparents and want to boink grandparents, we don't want to boink people who look like OUR grandparents did at our age.

Okay, just what do you consider middle aged? We are both 59, and still consider ourselves young!

Here’s what works for us - the guy with the longer penis ltd in his back. I lie on him facing up. He penetrates first and works on me for a while until i’m ready for guy #2. Guy #1 keeps his cock in me all the way while guy #2 faces me, speeds my legs and then does all of the thrusting. Guy #1 doesn’t need to move because the second cock will provide a ton of stimulation. I usually cum very quickly from this and so do the guys.

My wildest sexual fantasy requires multiple females who swallow (at least 4). This would be a sexual 'musical chairs' if you will. The women are on hands and knees, preferably on chairs, and facing opposite directions alternately. Beginning with each females mouth, men fuck her mouth the at intervals, 30 seconds to a minute at most, the men rotate in the same direction. From mouth of one to the pussy of the next to the mouth of the third and so on. All loads of cum are to be swallowed.

I used to have the old SLS app on my phone and really liked it...then they killed it. Only recently did I learn that they had another app but from the reviews I have heard and the features that may/may not work like the website has kept me just using the website on my phone. As for people 'seeing' the icon...if they know what SLS is, then they are either hiding themselves or are wishing they could participate but don't feel they can. I keep my phone locked so 'seeing' it wouldn't be an issue and in the past didn't keep it on my home screen. As for having others know, sometimes I WISH I could tell the world since it really is a cool thing that I know I lucky to be able to do with my SO. At the same time, some of us have 'moral clauses' in our employment contracts and/or do jobs that would be frowned upon by some (ignorant, naive, bigoted) people.

I remember seeing a poll about this on this very forum some years back. As I recall, the preference was 2:1 for MFM over FMF. For me, I prefer MFM. I'm very partial to watching my wife enjoy another man.

For threesomes all we have experienced is FMF in all the years we have been in the lifestyle! She is bi and prefers playing with other women more then other men and I am 100 percent straight so it is what works best for us. Unlike many out there we actually have better luck finding single women then we do single men. Between the ridiculous cock pics, married guys, I am a alpha dom males and general stupid things guys say the pool of guys worth giving a try is non existent here at least. The truth is I would love to share her with other men for her pleasure. It is them that are the ones that are always cock blocking themselves not me. It is embarrassing how many dudes are just completely clueless when it comes to hooking up with couples.

As a male, it's extremely hard to argue against two women who both want to suck my cock. That's not how you spend most of your time in a real FMF, though. I have no complaints about any of it, but there's a lot of work involved keeping both entertained and running warm unless they're both bisexual enough to help with each other. MFM isn't just easier to find a partner for, it's easier to perform in a way that leaves everyone thoroughly "done".

We enjoy newbies. There is something exciting about a couple that never played before. They are nervous, not knowing what to do. Most of the women have never been with a woman. We were new and nervous our first time and we enjoy trying to get a couple to relax. There is a downside as well. Women freeze up, we don’t push anyone. We go at their speed. Men also have problems. Too fast, too soft. And we have seen jealousy too. Every adventure is different.

We both love eating pussy! We both dislike hair stuck in our teeth. Shaved pussy equals no hair. Simple as that. Has nothing to do with the person looking younger. Same goes for her preferring the males being shaved too.

i brought it up to my husband and he accepted the idea. now i'm looking into it for us so we can get started on it

DH did years ago and I would joke with him maybe some day. We have had an awakening in our relationship after all these years and really enjoying one another. We talked about fantasies and from there we have been more interested in swinging.