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1 pointIt finally happened! My wife and I have been to a few swinger clubs, but she only allowed people to watch never touch, this went on for a few years. We were talking and I was explaining the way we should look at is that adding another guy is like me using her toys on her, use it, have fun then put it away. I asked her how about an erotic massage in a nice hotel by me and another guy? To my surprise and excitement, she said she thinks she could do that! My wife is a 42 yr old Colombian with large man-made C cups, thin waist and a med/lg ass. She only had 4 lovers in her past and all of them just did vanilla sex. Boy did I expand her world when we got married LOL! She is absolutely beautiful with a heart of gold, so I wanted to make sure this was amazing but most of all safe. I came up with limits so she would feel comfortable and safe. First, she would be on the massage table, when he came in and she would be blindfolded as she gets embarrassed easily. Second, the guy would not talk unless asked something by me or her. Third, no rough stuff, just gentle massage. I would allow oral and fingering on her by him but oral on him only if she initiated it. Fourth, I told her at the end after we make her cum, I would ask her Green light, Yellow light or Red light? Green would be to continue with sex from both of us, yellow is sex with me only but he can watch and touch, and Red was thank you but he leaves as I want only my husband now. Lastly, I would meet with the guy before the massage and if I felt the slightest hesitation, I would call it off. She liked the rules. I then started looking when “S” PM’d me. He said he was flying into San Antonio on business and was willing to help. We PM’d back and forth while giving me advice as he said he had helped others get introduced into the LS. He answered every question I had so we made plans to meet when he landed and give the massage to my wife later that evening (only time we both had before he returned home). When I met him a few hours prior to the massage he was so polite that my anxiety level went to zero. We again went over the wife’s limits I came up with and he had no problem with any of them. My wife was blindfolded and on the massage table with a towel over her ass when he arrived. He immediately went to the restroom and undressed and washed his hands. When he came out, massage music was playing, and I had those battery powered candles lighting the room. To make her comfortable with another man’s hands on her we started with her neck and back. After about 10 minutes we moved the towel covering her ass and we began to massage her lower half. We moved slow going from her ass back up to her back then down her legs. I bent her knee moving her lower leg inward at an angle and her pussy became exposed to him for the first time. The light from the candles made her already wet pussy glisten. As we rubbed her inner thighs we would graze her pussy lips…..she was SOOO wet. When we flipped her we began working on her breasts. I was getting so turned on watching another man touch my woman. “S” moved nice and slow over her nipples then down her arm as I did the same. Her nipples were becoming hard as we lightly massaged each breast. We went lower toward her landing strip pubic hair but being careful not to go too far in order to drive her wild. When we moved to her legs, we started with her feet then moved up. We bent both of her legs inward at an angle so the bottom of her feet were touching each other…..this opened her pussy wide. We again worked her inner thighs but this time moving our hands right over her pussy lips……this drove me wild seeing him touch her. I then went down on her and she was drenched in her juices, NOT just wet….drenched, and it tasted so good. At that point I looked up at “s” and offered my wife’s pussy to him. He began to eat her out and I saw her mouth open and could tell she was in pure ecstasy. He wrapped his lips around her clit and sunk his fingers deep inside her…..she let out an amazing moan. I got out the clit vibrator and started to tease her clit while “S” bent two of his fingers to massage her g-spot. I handed the vibrator to “S” while I started to massage her breasts and nipples. “S” kept up the fingering mixed with licking until she had the most intense orgasm, I have ever seen her have! She about rolled off the table it was so intense! She motioned for him to stop but continued to twitch for over a minute. After we let her calm down, I moved her to the edge of the table spreading her legs apart and started to fuck her. She was so soaking wet I slid right in. I looked over and she had “S” cock in her hand slowly playing with it…..I had to think of baseball in order not to cum right there LOL!! “S” then moved to the head of the table to hold her head as it was falling off the table…..what a gentleman! She grabbed his arms and had another orgasm while I came deep in her soaking pussy. “S” smiled at me and quietly left as my wife and I held each other. It was perfect. She told me she LOVED the experience and wants to do it again ?. We went home and fucked two more times. The next day “S” texted me to check on my wife to make sure she was doing good. I can’t tell you enough how much I appreciate “S” in helping us take the next step……thanks man!!……D&J
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1 pointEnthusiasm is the key, not so much technique. Im certain that the women on this board know the difference between a guy who is giving you pro forma head and one who absolutely LOVES eating pussy and who wants you to cum on his tongue. Its the same with guys I think. All of the technique mentioned above feels wonderful but that is secondary to knowing that the woman loves having my dick in her mouth and wants me to cum. The old saying, "there's no such thing as a bad blow job" is more or less correct but it's infinitely better when the woman really wants to blow me.
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1 pointI'm not disagreeing about the challenges, but I'll point out that there's a large discrepancy between what people do and what they daydream about doing. It's understandable that the OP's wife feels guilty about doing things she considers taboo while raising a daughter, but there's been no shortage of research into sexual fantasies. https://www.researchgate.net/publication/267627883_What_Exactly_Is_an_Unusual_Sexual_Fantasy There's tables in this paper of both the general occurrence of specific fantasies as well as people who identify themes as their "favorite" fantasies. 3-4% of women mention threesomes, orgies, and gangbangs, each in separate categories. (Meaning, they might all be the same 3-4%, but probably aren't.) 2% mention partner swapping, 9% mention exhibitionism, and another 14% sex with a stranger. For men, twice as many mention watching their spouse have sex with another man (8%) as with a woman (3%), 5% a threesome with their spouse, and 8% group sex generally. When you scroll down to Table 2, the list of all fantasies, not just favorites, you'd think everyone is secretly daydreaming about orgies all the time. 28% of women mention sex with three or more men, 30% of women and 45% of men sex with a mixed group of three or more. 75% of men mention three or more women. I think men usually take the lead in encouraging their wives to overcome taboos or inhibitions and try, and I agree that it often doesn't work out, but I do think there's no shortage of women turned on by various scandalous scenarios. Even the most rigidly vanilla woman I ever knew, offended by nearly everything, admitted that she often masturbated to getting spit-roasted by two twin NFL players.
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1 pointI think a lot of the people on this board are middle-aged or older. As others said, it's very common for people to take up swinging again once the kids are starting to become less of a factor. Mrs. E is roughly 15 years older than I am and all of our regular play partners are in that camp. The single woman we play with is newly-divorced, between our ages, and her children are out of the house. The first couple we connected with, she used to babysit for. She usually prefers younger men for MFM but we really have no hard and fast rules about an age requirement. I think if you participate in the scene of visiting clubs and meetups, etc., you'll find no shortage of people who you feel are age-appropriate for yourselves and welcoming to you.
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1 pointJust as importantly, how much money is there in teaching a blowjob class? Mrs. E is thinking about early retirement options. In seriousness, a hotel that's friendly to topless or nude sunbathing is always a nice touch.
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1 pointWe have several places (usually in San Francisco) that have different sexual themed classes that we keep thinking about go to take but just haven't yet, but SF doesn't help you in Georgia. Usually the different swingers meeting sites have some info on things like this and Google can also help somewhat. Wish we could help, but other than beating the bushes, finding something is up to you. Instead of just fo the weekend, I would consider Desire in Cancun for the week. You will never be sorry there.
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1 pointJane she did stop when it wasn’t fun, it was me who felt strange that I couldn’t go that long. We saw him again the other night at the club we go to, not a swing club just a place we go to be with friends. It was a social setting and we got to talk over a beer. He is a good guy, I just never knew him before. I asked him how he goes so long and he came back with a How does she go so long. He was asking how my wife could fuck for two hours and that he was going to collapse if she didn’t stop. He said he does have the ability to hold back and always waits for a woman to give a signal. He said he was unsure if she wanted him to finish in her, no condom was used. He was saying all great things about the night.
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1 pointWow! Just watched it on-demand. This one is different from the one we saw before. Lisa’s report covers all of the bases and rings so very true. I recommend it.
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1 pointWhat makes you think they are really couples? I'm convinced that single men sometimes make couples profiles so actual couples will respond to their messages or contact them first.
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1 pointThat concept is intriguing. Starting, trying, quitting for whatever reason is not necessarily a failure. It is how we deal with it. If we quit right this moment we would have learned things about ourselves and each other that are to our benefit, if used properly. Life goes on, things change. For me the real test is the same as it always has been. Having and raising children, illness and death of parents and friends, Marriage of children, ourselves aging, the questions are always the same. "How are we as a couple dealing with this one? Are we stronger, closer more fully in touch with our lives or not?"
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1 pointI really don’t think there is anything to feel inferior about as far as how long you go before cumming! Sex isn’t just about the old penis in the vagina. At least I hope it isn’t for most people out there. You have a mouth and hands use them if your wife is still getting hammered by her play partner. I know my missus has no problem with guys that get busy without using their cock. Since I have got older I have become one those guys that goes for what is probably to long for some people out there. It doesn’t seem to be a problem for my lady, because she is used to it and is blessed with unlimited orgasms herself so as long as I keep going she keep cumming. It does cause us to have to take a day off in between here and there though. As far as playing with other people I do my best to gauge how long the other person can handle it and stop when it becomes obvious they have had enough! There has been many times I don’t cum at all when playing with others in the lifestyle. It isn’t because they are doing anything wrong and I make sure they don’t leave feeling they did. I do not need to cum myself to have a great time as long as the person I am playing with is taking care of I am happy.
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1 pointTaking care of yourself looks a lot like work, and there's always a subset of people who react badly to that. That's true whether you're talking about your career, physical fitness, or anything else. Being a "snob" is about the way you treat others, not simply the way you treat yourself. If someone feels like you're a snob because you're making what you feel are the best choices for yourself, it might be about something they detected in the way you treat them, but it might also really be about the way they feel about themselves. It's worth asking yourself the question to make sure you're coming across the way you want to come across, but I wouldn't pay it too much mind. Something I read years ago about the phrase "putting your health first" made the point very well that if you're going to say that, you've got to be honest about how much you mean it. If you're skipping the gym because you're working late, you're putting something else first. If you're ordering greasy takeout because you didn't plan enough time into your day to cook something healthful, you're putting something else first. There's nothing wrong with that, but people often don't want to be honest with themselves about what they're really doing and it's upsetting when they have to confront it.
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1 pointInferior? You went twice, just that takes that feeling away. From what you stated I think your friend knew your wife was in for a long night. Two hours is a marathon and I’m sure I would have called it quits way before that. I know it would have pained me. I rather my partner finish when I orgasm, well maybe after a second orgasm. I would much more prefer a man to go twice over a man who goes that long. Your wife did what I would have done just I would have done it much sooner. You didn’t say if your wife enjoyed the experience or if she ached after. Some women would be jealous of her, just not me.
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1 pointMy wife would be looking to sneak out the door if some guy was riding her for two hours. I think she would waive the white flag much earlier.
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1 pointDon’t bring a stopwatch to swinging sessions. I often come faster than I would like. Many men my age have difficulty coming. We are focused on trying our best and pleasuring our partner.
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1 pointYour wife had a good time. It sounds like you and the other woman had fun too. Isn't that what this hobby is all about? You know, fun times and good sex that we can share with friends. Sounds like you did that so there is no reason to feel inferior.
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1 pointIn the USA, once reaching age 50, we Americans remain middle aged until two years after we are dead.
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1 pointMrs Doc blushingly thanks you for the compliment. To answer your question, I think maturity brings acceptance. We love watching 30 something hard bodied couples at the beach or the club and we KNOW that we'd rock their world given the opportunity but we also know that we are not their idea of attractive. We're now at an age where we appreciate the beauty and the experience of mature couples. Yes, there are some wrinkles, more of a muffin-top than a 30-something, graying hair and a lack of desire to wait till 2:00 am to get naked and party. A young guy could boink my wife all night but a mature man will finesse her into multiple squirting orgasms while I do the same to his wife. We both had some serious crotch banging sex in our 20's and 30's but I think what happens at our age is more considerate, more giving, more knowledgeable and probably more satisfying than anything either of us did 30 years ago. And its better too because we can now easily share what we've learned, what we've experienced and what we desire with our friends without jealousy or damage to our marriage. We DID look better by any standard at 35 than we do now but all in all, we're happy and content with the fact that we broke the code sexually and are having way more fun than we thought we would at our age.
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1 pointmid·dle-aged /ˌmidl ˈājd/ adjective adjective: middle-aged; adjective: middleaged (of a person) aged about 45 to 65. I thought that middle aged would have been younger. By definition, we started when we were middle aged and still are. Finding people have been no problem, finding the RIGHT people is the trick. Most swingers seem to be either young (early 20's) or middle aged. That in between group is usually raising kids and the like. Love swinging and being middle aged!
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1 pointWe got into swinging when we were in our early 50s. I remember what a turn on it was - for that matter it still is. After decades of monogamy, to be able to appreciate a woman without fear of reprisal. For my wife to have a great time flirting, which was something she did very well until we committed to each other. So, if both people are on the same page, just going with the flow is so liberating!
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1 pointMost of the people we see online are middle aged to older! It seems many people start looking into the lifestyle when they are more mature and established in their relationship. You should not have any issue finding people in the same place as you. It is actually way harder to find serious younger people in the lifestyle.
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1 pointOne of our favorite bumper stickers reads….They NEVER sacrificed the sluts! I think that over the decade and a half that we've been swinging the term slut has lost a lot of its pejorative impact for us. While I would object to a guy saying to my wife, "take your skirt off slut", I have said occasionally after a party, "OMG baby, you were quite the little slut tonight". It got me a blush and a sexy little smile.
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1 pointI'd say it really rather depends on what you mean by "slut." I consider my wife to be my wife. She an intelligent, educated, strong, confident, sexually open, more-than-a-little-weird woman. I would also say she's a slut... in that she likes sex, enjoys sex with a wide variety of men, enjoys having sex with multiple men at the same time, is a bit kinky and is perfectly comfortable with all of that. However, I don't consider the word "slut" to be pejorative in this sense. I don't think any less of her because she enjoys these things. In most of the world, women who enjoy sex are demeaned and insulted, while men who do the same are lionized. I reject that out of hand.
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1 pointHello, Petra here. Why are all of the responses to this thread discussing what makes it good for the guy? For me, as a woman giving a blowjob (to completion), what makes unforgettable for me is: - He's already been in a pussy, mine or preferably another woman's, but hasn't yet come (see below); - He's totally flaccid (I like getting it all in my mouth to start and feeling him expand); - He is not too long. A good blow job-size dick for me is short, but thickness doesn't matter - the opposite of what I like for anal where thinness is preferable and length doesn't matter. - He lets me have control. I don't like it when a guy is thrusting his dick into my throat. I can deep throat some, but it doesn't make it good for me. I want to do it my way with a lot of tongue and take it farther down when I'm ready. Be patient and I can take it all the way. - He lets me know when he's going to cum, because: - I take all of his semen in my mouth; - I hold it in my open mouth (to me the taste is anywhere from neutral to good), roll it around with my tongue for him and anyone else who's interested to see what I've done (naughty girl); - I make a show of swallowing. - Optional - Instead of swallowing, I like to snowball (pass the semen back and forth between our mouths before swallowing) by either kissing him or another woman. (I like to do it with another guy, but guys don't. Hubby's done it for me twice though.) - Also option - Having someone fucking me or licking me while doing the above. I prefer giving blow jobs while upright (kneeling, standing, sitting) for control so I prefer doing cowgirl, reverse cowgirl or sitting on his/her face if it's going to be me doing these simultaneously. Doggy can work as well.
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