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Do you remember how you felt at first when you found that special person, perhaps your husband? The wonderful moments, the thought that you wanted to see him again so very soon? That's the feeling that apparently all three are having right now. I feel so envious of you - in a good way. Do you remember at the same time how you were slightly worried that this might not last? But even if it didn't, you'd still remember this wonderful period? It may not last with the girlfriend, many, many things could possibly happen. But one of the things that might happen is the three of you will create your own family that will be celebrating Thanksgiving twenty years from now. Enjoy this for what it is, hope it's something special that will last.

Damn!! That guy from the Burgh is right again!!!! Enjoy it for what it is. I too was somewhat envious in reading your post, it sounds like a lovely situation. The fact that you've known her for a long time and played with her prior to this situation means that most, if not all of the surprises have already been revealed. It was kind of you to take her in. That it developed from there is a wonderful bonus.

"Does it make you feel awkward or bad about yourself the next time she sees you naked?" If you do, this hobby isn't for you. You might want to consider bowling or golf. What we noticed almost immediately when we started exploring swinging over 15 years ago was how confident and comfortable in their bodies swinger couples are. Im about 6 inches which is quite average. What that means is that there are dicks that are larger than mine or some that are smaller. So what? There are tits that are bigger or smaller than Mrs Docs, but again, so what? At our regular parties, one of the husbands has a substantially larger dick, usually the biggest there. Mrs Doc always makes sure she gets some quality time with him. If Im in the same room, I'll watch for a bit because its such an amazingly hot visual and she always gets off on him. Its a joy to watch. I don't need her to comfort me afterwards because Im not intimidated or upset. We swing because we enjoy variety and sharing orgasms with our friends. Knowing that she's doing that and that she's fucked this guy (and probably several others) while I was fucking someone else's wife (or his)is incredibly erotic and THAT is what makes it OK to continue swinging.

I have done an amateur night a few times a couple of years ago. It was definitely a total rush for me seeing so many guys looking at me. Most of the others went topless - I chose to keep my skirt on but removed my panties. The guys flipped as I worked the perimeter of the stage and gave them close up views of my legs spread and pussy spread wide open for them. I still masturbate thinking bout those nights. I agree that exhibitionism can naturally lead to swinging. When we first started with our first couple, we started with nude hot tubbing. Being naked lead to sitting closely to each other’s spouse. This lead to some flirty touching. This led to the guys showing their erect cocks and us first playing with our own spouses together. This lead to wives touching the other guys. This lead to guys sitting on the edge and wives blowing the other guys. This led to taking things inside and full swap sex.

With us too, the guys are straight. I prefer when they take turns sharing me going back and forth. It's exciting not knowing what's going to happen next - Are they getting ready to switch? Will he want to flip me over or stay the way I am? Does he want me to get on top? Which one will cum in me first? Is it going to be this time? After the first guy cums, the second is quick to follow. Although vaginal/oral is fine for me when just getting started, as I get closer to orgasm I hate having a dick in my mouth. I need lots of air to cum and breathe really hard. Licking pussy is fine because I can move away an inch and there's nothing blocking my airway. More and more because of everything going on in our life, especially the kids, it's often one-at-a-time alone play, although the time between those one-at-a-times can sometimes be pretty short. With an FMF, which I prefer, you are right there is more to do - the girls 69ing while he goes between us, or he doing oral on one of us while being in the other. But what we three women all prefer as a FFM is one of us taking him doggy while doing oral on the other girl. Then switching with her - a couple of times.

So we took in a very good friend about six weeks ago following a very ugly split with her ex. We have know both of them for about ten years and started playing together about three years ago. I actually have known her much longer and before we started hanging out as couples. Anyway, things have evolved to a point where we are sharing our bed 4-5 nights per week. We are playing together and separately. For example, in the morning it’s not unusual for me to come out of the shower and find her and my husband snuggling, touching and even fucking. I actually love seeing them together and have no feelings of jealousy. She and I are doing the same and actually took the day off Wednesday and simply spent the day in bed alone while he was at work. It’s not all about sex, but it’s clear that she really loves him and I think he feels the same about her. I know that I care deeply for her and may actually be in love as well. We prepare meals together, hang out in the evenings together, play together and still swing separately, but it is definitely decreasing. Everything feels very natural and relaxed and we are all content - have we found ourselves slipping into a true polyamorous relationship? I never really thought about it and we were talking about it last night. Thoughts? Warnings? This is uncharted territory.

Years ago, there was a hilarious site called "threesome sex positions" or something like that, where somebody had devised dozens of scenarios using those wooden artists' mannequins to populate a diorama of a bedroom. It'd be perfect for this thread if only I could find it somewhere. They started off serious, then got increasingly ridiculous. One was the two female figures in bed doing 69 while the man stands off to the side, looking away, hanging his head. "In this position, my female partners perform oral sex on each other while I gaze at the floor in disappointment, for I have ejaculated too quickly."

These were my thoughts too. I would try to just enjoy the moment for what it is without trying to think too much about defining what it actually is, then in due time I the true answer will probably reveal itself. edit - Padoc beat me to the words while I was typing out my post, so there's two votes for the what it is approach

Sounds like it to me. The only red flag to me is that six weeks is an awfully short time. Rebound sex plus some NRE might easily be mistaken for love. Personally I would rein in my enthusiasm. Make sure no one makes any decisions in this matter. Meanwhile , as friends you can supply a solid, safe, even intimate space in which she can heal. In the long run? Maybe you end up as a triad, maybe as very good friends with a pleasant history. Committing too early though sounds dangerous to both friendship and your marriage.

It’s the endless thread - and I get it. I know that I certainly compare myself to the women my husband fucks. It can be exhausting so we constantly come back to the fact that we are in this purely for fun and sex. We want to be with other people - we want to experience new things. Last night watched my husband with a beautiful 30 year old with an immaculate body and a magic pussy that accepted three separate loads from him. At the same time, her very average husband drove me wild and carried me through several completely satisfying orgasms with his mouth and his beautifully shaped small penis. Earlier in the evening a regular partner spit roasted me with my husband and satisfied me with his 8” beast of a cock. Each was perfect, satisfying and gave me just what I needed - a horny guy who wanted to fuck me and make sure I was left tingling. Every woman I know that swings is content with a partner that is attractive, clean, well groomed and committed to her satisfaction.

And yes, when I know one or more guys are looking, i’ll discretely open my legs a bit - very slowly. I’m usually so wet and horny at this point, my girl will open up just enough for them. If I’m interested in meeting them or talking, I’ll open up and make eye contact. It drives me and my husband wild.

It must have been quite a journey from you feeling guilty for having had sex with your friend and her boyfriend, and your future husband's sense of betrayal being such that he left you, then to getting married and sharing your mutual sexual adventures. Can you point to what it was that turned that initial tearful situation around and brought you back together? There are relationships where one partner cheats, then it is forgiven, but with you two, you actually embraced nonmonogamy and made it part of your marriage relationship. How wonderful! Was it that your husband realizing that you enjoying another man and woman didn't diminish your love or desire for him? Or was it a turn-on for him? (The jealousy I have seeing my husband with another woman has not gone away, but it has become an addiction for me.) Or was it an offer to allow him to participate in the play? It is fascinating that you two have so much love, trust and understanding that he encourages you to have a play friend stay with you when he is out of town. You two are a lesson for us all.

When the minority becomes huge, something is up. ...Long before we met, my wife did several amateur nights at strip clubs. She has told me that it was interesting watching the men (and a few women) watch her. Have either of you ever done it? Seems the perfect place for a female exhibitionist. My wife isn't an exhibitionist per se in that she does it for a thrill, but if he's looking and she's showing off, she will spread her legs wide and manually part her lips. Once when I said I thought that she was going overboard, my wife told me it kept him from staring at her tits.

We have figured out that size really matters to men! It would seem many of them are obsessed with dicks. Just take a look at the comments on dick pics on sites that allow them. Almost all of them are from other men. Are some women size queens? Well sure, but are most? Honestly most women we know could care less about your penis. It is a lot lower on the list of what makes a guy attractive then most men realize.

We are The O Zone, a swingers nightclub in Toronto, ON and can only answer based on our specific club, but it’s food for thought. For us, we do not allow nudity in the club portion, only in the back playrooms. Occasionally, someone walks up to the bar in a towel, but they are totally out of place. Our dress code is ‘Dress to Impress” so slacks, a collared shirt and loafers or other dress shoe is appropriate. We do not have a pool or hot tub on premise. And as a licensed night club, we really discourage being barefoot. Paper towels are expensive (especially when people don’t care and use way more than they need) so we provide white cotton towels. Better for the environment, although with those who use 5 or 6 towels when 1 or 2 would suffice that ups the laundry strain on the environment as well. We also provide hand sanitizer, mouth wash, locks/lockers, water based lubricant and latex condoms. I agree, if you have a preference for condom size, type or material, bring your own. As a side note, please do not take silicone lube to a club… ruins the sheets and towels, costs a lot to replace, and then the price of admission has to go up to cover that cost. Just some food for thought here! Happy Swinging!

What about after your wife has been with a much larger dick? Does it make you feel awkward or bad about yourself the next time she sees you naked? Has your wife said something that comforts you about this situation?

I have given hundreds of blow jobs, but I never thought if I am good or bad at it. First of all, it is not a preferred choice for me. There are two reasons why I give blow jobs - 1) to reciprocate his oral. The better he gives the better he gets. When I get carried away with how well he pleased me I genuinely try to please him by licking, sucking, fluttering, nibbling, and sometimes put a finger in his ass to massage his prostate. My objective is to appreciate him that I enjoyed his licking by reciprocating a great a blow job. I don't plan anything, whatever he enjoys more I give more, because everyone is different. 2) To make him harder before he enters me and to stay hard. I am selfish, but it works for both.

There are idiots in every walk of life. Don't let it get you down. Just be happy you did not spend time with them. Gives you more time to pursue more meaningful relationships.