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So my wife and I are very new to this. We have been to a visited club/resort not far from where we live on two occasions and we both loved it. On the first visit we just did the playroom and only played with each other and watched. On our second visit a couple of weeks back we ended up meeting another couple on the last night we were there. I had actually met the male half in the hot tub the night before. My wife was all partied out so I just went to the hot tub to unwind. Long story short I ended up talking to him and his girl a little bit. He was a little drunk but was a pretty funny guy. Joking around etc.. Anyway on the second night after the playroom etc the wife and I went out to the hot tub and the same couple was there. They were attractive couple and about 10 years younger than us. I pretty much spent most of the time talking to the husband he was a big talker lol which made it easy to break the ice. From the way it sounded he they had a little experience in the LS. I told him we had none but were really happy to finally at least speak to someone else in person who had some. He mentioned that maybe the four of us could go back to the room and just take things slow(not full swap, but maybe own partner sex in same room etc.)See how it goes etc.. I said sure.. We're just happy to talk to someone finally. My wife and I are easy going and have no expectations and are not going to pressure anyone. Now here is where things get a little interesting lol. I really stared remembering the stories I read about on this forum about all the complexities of setting up a four way arrangement and how things can get derailed. So hes like.. I have to run it past my wife make sure its cool. Im thinking no big deal because we really dont expect anything but then it seemed like she wasn't sure and wasn't really expecting him to make arrangements or something. Anyway after a little bit of back and forth between them we finally head up to the room. So we agree on sex in the same room with our own partners one cpl (them) on the bed and my wife and I on the couch. lol Now this wasn't really all that exciting for us because we have already done the playroom thing a couple of times but whatever we just go with the flow. After about 10 minutes of fucking on this tiny couch I was dying LOL. I finally ask them . Hey would you mind if we took the other side of the bed? They said oh sure no problem. Come on up. So we moved to the bed and he positions them right next to us. I have to say my wife and I found this very hot. Fucking right next to them.. After a little while the guy ask my wife... Would you mind if she(his wife) touched your breast. My wife says no i dont mind . Then he ask me if I mind. Im like FUCK NO I DONT MIND. So this goes on she touches my wife and then he ask if she would like to touch her. Then the same for kissing..I'm in fucking heaven watching this .Its was almost surreal Here's the thing. My wife and I have been married for about 20 years. I must have asked her at least a dozen times if she could ever play with a women and the answer has always been a solid NO. So I never pushed her on that subject or ever expected that she would. She did without hesitation. A little later the other girl took out a wand vibrator and they took turns on each other and I told my wife to suck on her tits while she was getting the other off and she did.. It was a beautiful thing . Now my wife still tells me that shes not attracted to females but she said she defiantly didn't mind doing what she did and wouldn't be opposed to similar play in the future. That's as far as it went for us that night. I know not anything crazy but babysteps. I had a big smile on my face that night and still do when I think about it. I think my wife being open to at least experimenting with other women could possibly open up more play opportunities.

Cheating is and will never be swinging. Swinging is all about love, trust and communication. If any of the three are missing, it won't work. First step is to start improving all three...interesting side effect of that will be that once one thing improves, it will spill over to the other two. Make your relationship rock solid first, then start to move forward. That you are thinking about cheating is not a good place to start from. Once the relationship is strong, then start talking about your fantasies...in, and more importantly, out of the bedroom. Don't go any faster than the slowest of you is comfortable with. Set your rules and NEVER violate them (it damages the trust part). Keep talking and never forget how great it is that you have a partner that you can talk to about anything (especially this). Keep in mind that some people are just not wired for swinging, and trying to force them will destroy the relationship. If they can't do it, then they might never be able to do it and you need to be willing to honor their decission. With most guys, the sticking point is usually trust (aren't I good enough for her? Why is she wanting someone else? Ect.) Communication will improve the trust, and trust will increase the love. Take your time and enjoy the ride as much as the destination. Good luck, and don't try to force things.

We drove home after our team won, they are saying bad weather. Home games are done for the year. Being we live hours away I will miss my friends. I have explained what happened three years ago. My then bf had no idea what went on that first time. I called him and told him I was staying with friends because of the snow. He said it was smart because it was icy on the roads. What happened that night I should have kept a secret. I didn’t. I told him, we had a fight. Short story he left, I cried. I begged. I had friends help me convince him sex can be separate from love. After they convinced him our life changed. Having two friends in bed with him was one of the most difficult things I ever watched and I couldn’t show my horror. I urged him to do more and more. I had to prove to myself something that I wasn’t really sure about. Even me having sex with my friends made me cry, I cried while enjoying. My whole life I was told how wrong all this was. Not getting into all the talk we had after that time, we did have deep conversations. Religion, I have religion but not religious, morality, I’m moral but who made these rules. Isn’t religion man made? It evolved to make people behave by rules others made. If you think the rules came from something else then how come those rules keep changing from politicians? Many on here sent me private messages. That helped. Some of you are great and gave me strength. Some just wanted details of the sex, I didn’t answer. Advice I thought about and shared with my husband. I didn’t take all the advice. Some advice was from older and would like to think wiser people. Very few on here are my age and I just tried to apply others’ experiences to mine. We even met someone from here. That was a very hard thing to do. I’m smart enough to know how bad that could have gone. I know that couple is most likely reading this post. They were the first total strangers we met. At first it felt wrong even though they are a great couple. The other real hard thing to do was having sex with our friend. At first I did it to prove something to my husband. Sex is just for fun. I think he was testing me at the time. Looking back at that first time I think it just brought us to the next level.

We have to agree...it's NRE that is fueling this. She needs a rebound guy, your husband is it. Eventually she is going to come off this high and things will cool down as she starts looking for a guy of her own. Don't take it personal, it's just part of the circle but enjoy the time that you have now.

We have been doing more lurking, but, for information, advice and guidance. We have posted on a few threads and started a few as well. Can't say that we are swinging yet, however, we are going to be attending our first club this weekend. We have learned a lot from what we have read. Answers to questions we had and answers to questions were hadn't thought of. This is definitely a great site!

Would love to meet up with them again.They were actually the type of people we would be friends with in Vanilla life. Unfortunately they are from out of State. We exchanged contact information so who knows. Maybe when they are visiting again???

Not a fantasy of mine or hers. There is more to swinging than men lining up to fuck her. If she wants to have sex with one or two or three men I am happy for her. I know she enjoys more than a fuck, she likes the play leading up to that.

I've never done this before and ur right, it was a risk, I just too excited. After reading more in this forum I realized I'm not swinging, I'm cheating. So o need to step back and think about all this

Agreed, Jane. And I think it almost certainly is a troll.

I don't, and never have had, that fantasy. I want my wife to do what she wants to do, when she wants to do it, to whomever she wants to. Except for one time, she's never had more than two or three other men in one night. One time she did at least seven in a couple hour period, but that was a very special circumstance. Me? I'd love to do eight girls right after another. But two is the max, one is the average . . .

Mrs. E has always been firmly in the "prefers to cover up" camp, a nude beach would be a little much. On the other hand, she loves to sunbathe and I encouraged her to go topless the first time we went to the Mediterranean. She got a kick out of pretending she didn't notice the 20-year-olds ogling her behind her sunglasses. We went back to our room and screwed our brains out. If she wanted to do strip, I'd fully support that, but I doubt she'd ever go for it. She is totally fascinated by exotic dancers, though. The first time we went to a strip club she talked about what the job must be like for days.

"Does it make you feel awkward or bad about yourself the next time she sees you naked?" If you do, this hobby isn't for you. You might want to consider bowling or golf. What we noticed almost immediately when we started exploring swinging over 15 years ago was how confident and comfortable in their bodies swinger couples are. Im about 6 inches which is quite average. What that means is that there are dicks that are larger than mine or some that are smaller. So what? There are tits that are bigger or smaller than Mrs Docs, but again, so what? At our regular parties, one of the husbands has a substantially larger dick, usually the biggest there. Mrs Doc always makes sure she gets some quality time with him. If Im in the same room, I'll watch for a bit because its such an amazingly hot visual and she always gets off on him. Its a joy to watch. I don't need her to comfort me afterwards because Im not intimidated or upset. We swing because we enjoy variety and sharing orgasms with our friends. Knowing that she's doing that and that she's fucked this guy (and probably several others) while I was fucking someone else's wife (or his)is incredibly erotic and THAT is what makes it OK to continue swinging.

Sounds like it to me. The only red flag to me is that six weeks is an awfully short time. Rebound sex plus some NRE might easily be mistaken for love. Personally I would rein in my enthusiasm. Make sure no one makes any decisions in this matter. Meanwhile , as friends you can supply a solid, safe, even intimate space in which she can heal. In the long run? Maybe you end up as a triad, maybe as very good friends with a pleasant history. Committing too early though sounds dangerous to both friendship and your marriage.

And yes, when I know one or more guys are looking, i’ll discretely open my legs a bit - very slowly. I’m usually so wet and horny at this point, my girl will open up just enough for them. If I’m interested in meeting them or talking, I’ll open up and make eye contact. It drives me and my husband wild.

Unfortunately this is how gangbangs are always seen in porn so it is what most guys going into it are going to expect! When is the last time you have seen a gangbang porn where it was all about the woman getting the goddess treatment instead of being treated like a piece of meat. This is why the missus would never entertain the thought of being in this situation. She has no interest in being slapped around, having her hair pulled, spit on and used up like she isn’t human. I get that some women like this and that is their choice, but it is not something that interests me at all. I respect women far to much to hit them. It is too bad, because I would love to share her with a group of men that interested her, but I know it would not end up making either of happy when this is the expectations men have going in.

I don’t know how you see your friend cumming inside. You may watch him him have an orgasm but if he is in your wife his ejaculation will physically be in her Hidden from you seeing. The question of cumming in or out is a little perplexing. If you are having sex without a condom you have thought about the risk of STDs. I would think you have already taken precautions for pregnancy. When I am having sex with a guy, or for that matter a girlfriend, I would want them to keeep going until they orgasm. I would feel cheated if a guy stopped before I orgasmed. I can’t imagine someone stopping just before I was going to cum. Not every guy gets me to orgasm but to stop just before wouldn’t be right. I don’t get the Rules. No kissing, no cuddling, no cumming. If I could take you in my mouth and let you cum why would I stop you from cumming in me there.