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We have been doing more lurking, but, for information, advice and guidance. We have posted on a few threads and started a few as well. Can't say that we are swinging yet, however, we are going to be attending our first club this weekend. We have learned a lot from what we have read. Answers to questions we had and answers to questions were hadn't thought of. This is definitely a great site!

This is great advice, for your 1st club visit or your 100th club visit. Ahhh, the what to wear question, that is always tricky your first time somewhere new. You've gotten good advice in that regard too, although I would add in nice jeans as an option there. We've been to clubs with a dress to impress code and never once been turned away in nice jeans, and there were plenty of others wearing them too. Key word there is nice. If they are the same ones you wear to work every day, then those probably aren't it. I wish some of the khakis guys would figure that out too. I've seen guys wearing khakis that should have been Goodwilled about two annual performance reviews ago, but they seem to think they are still "dress".

Mrs Doc is not shy at a nude beach. She'll open her legs a bit or rub lotion on her boobs if there is an attractive couple nearby who show some interest. Sometimes she'll roll over on her stomach giving them an excellent look at her ass and probably a little pussy too. Of course she pretends it's casual and unintentional but she will up her game a bit if she starts to see a reaction. Its fun to watch. She has never put on that little show for a guy by himself or a group of guys. Way to many lurkers, jerkers and creeps.

After I ate my wife after I came in her, she married me.

East, you said, "the Greeks and Romans both considered legal monogamy to be a hallmark of their culture." Yeah, but . . . I'm sure that a sociologist writing of today would say that monogamy is a hallmark of American society. Yet the prominence of adultery in our society, along with the divorce rate and habits of swingers such as ourselves would suggest to that author perhaps the 'hallmark' isn't the truth in practice. We share our predilection for non-monogamy with the Romans, methinks. PSU, sorry to hijack the thread. Sorry your Nittany Lions aren't playing this week. . .

I've only skimmed the article, but while you're correct and every respectable household had slaves for that, it's also technically true that the Greeks and Romans both considered legal monogamy to be a hallmark of their culture separating them from the barbarians. I think Augustine himself referred to monogamous marriage as "the Roman custom". It's primarily Paul that took it even further and actually suggested everybody stop having sex outside marriage altogether. The early Church tapdanced around that for a good thousand years. It seemingly wasn't until well after 1000 that keeping a concubine was listed as grounds for being denied communion, and Germanic Christian kingdoms kept passing laws acknowledging the practice for centuries after that. Those free-ranging conversations about what sex is and what we think our bodies are for have actually been one of the most fun and rewarding parts of this for me and Mrs. E. I'm glad you guys have had such a transformative experience.

Good luck with that! Unless you're some kind of engineer, my guess is that in the end, you can find one that works and may be only slightly used for what it will cost you in parts, labor and time to basically invent and build one from the ground up.

Don't expect anything to happen, this is just unnecessary pressure to force something that isn't right or ready. Plan on having a GREAT evening with your spouse and anything else is a bonus. Make sure that your rules are set and do not violate them. Realize that no matter what may or may not happen, you are going to have some super hot sex when you get home. Most important, however, is to have fun.

We have to agree...it's NRE that is fueling this. She needs a rebound guy, your husband is it. Eventually she is going to come off this high and things will cool down as she starts looking for a guy of her own. Don't take it personal, it's just part of the circle but enjoy the time that you have now.

Cheating is and will never be swinging. Swinging is all about love, trust and communication. If any of the three are missing, it won't work. First step is to start improving all three...interesting side effect of that will be that once one thing improves, it will spill over to the other two. Make your relationship rock solid first, then start to move forward. That you are thinking about cheating is not a good place to start from. Once the relationship is strong, then start talking about your fantasies...in, and more importantly, out of the bedroom. Don't go any faster than the slowest of you is comfortable with. Set your rules and NEVER violate them (it damages the trust part). Keep talking and never forget how great it is that you have a partner that you can talk to about anything (especially this). Keep in mind that some people are just not wired for swinging, and trying to force them will destroy the relationship. If they can't do it, then they might never be able to do it and you need to be willing to honor their decission. With most guys, the sticking point is usually trust (aren't I good enough for her? Why is she wanting someone else? Ect.) Communication will improve the trust, and trust will increase the love. Take your time and enjoy the ride as much as the destination. Good luck, and don't try to force things.

Some...no, most of my favorite and closest friends are exhibitionists.

Interested to see how it progresses...

Bluespruce, you may or may not be aware, but, Lzzy Hale of Halestorm wrote a song just for you. She describes, in her lyrics, almost exactly what you feel when you are being admired. And its a good song. Halestorm - I Get Off Here is a link

I agree with this, especially with the idea of them getting this from porn. My GF is really into this extreme degradation and humiliation stuff and I am not. However, I have noticed that a lot of the guys she has had sex with (including some of my closest friends) are really into this kind of play as well. I usually see it as verbal and physical abuse but my GF and them see if differently and I am trying to understand it better. We are a younger couple and I believe porn has become significantly more extreme and violent over the years and it has had an impact on real life sex. I can tell you that younger guys are really getting off on dominating women in bed in some cases in what I would consider fairly extreme acts. Take facefucking for example. I feel like this has become a normal sexual activity now. I love getting a good deepthroat but the idea of fucking someone's throat until they puke is not a turn on to me - but it is for my GF and a lot of guys I know. And the porn they watch is all extreme stuff. I see them pull up the clips on their phones and show us the things they want to do to my GF. I say to each their own. If my GF is enjoying it then that is all I care about. But there has definitely been a major change in young people's sex life and I really think porn has contributed to it.

We drove home after our team won, they are saying bad weather. Home games are done for the year. Being we live hours away I will miss my friends. I have explained what happened three years ago. My then bf had no idea what went on that first time. I called him and told him I was staying with friends because of the snow. He said it was smart because it was icy on the roads. What happened that night I should have kept a secret. I didn’t. I told him, we had a fight. Short story he left, I cried. I begged. I had friends help me convince him sex can be separate from love. After they convinced him our life changed. Having two friends in bed with him was one of the most difficult things I ever watched and I couldn’t show my horror. I urged him to do more and more. I had to prove to myself something that I wasn’t really sure about. Even me having sex with my friends made me cry, I cried while enjoying. My whole life I was told how wrong all this was. Not getting into all the talk we had after that time, we did have deep conversations. Religion, I have religion but not religious, morality, I’m moral but who made these rules. Isn’t religion man made? It evolved to make people behave by rules others made. If you think the rules came from something else then how come those rules keep changing from politicians? Many on here sent me private messages. That helped. Some of you are great and gave me strength. Some just wanted details of the sex, I didn’t answer. Advice I thought about and shared with my husband. I didn’t take all the advice. Some advice was from older and would like to think wiser people. Very few on here are my age and I just tried to apply others’ experiences to mine. We even met someone from here. That was a very hard thing to do. I’m smart enough to know how bad that could have gone. I know that couple is most likely reading this post. They were the first total strangers we met. At first it felt wrong even though they are a great couple. The other real hard thing to do was having sex with our friend. At first I did it to prove something to my husband. Sex is just for fun. I think he was testing me at the time. Looking back at that first time I think it just brought us to the next level.

Mrs Doc likes to have her orgasms with a dick in her and she really likes it when her partner cums rather than banging away for hours. I don't look for sloppy seconds but I don't mind either so if she wants me at some point after someone has cum in her Im happy to be there. One of the hottest moments I can remember, we were side by side on our bed, the other guy was fucking her missionary and his wife had been riding me. She came several times and then went down on me. The husband whispered, "Im getting close" and I saw her grab his ass, pull him in deeper as she said, barely loud enough for me to hear, "cum in me". He did and as he did, she came again. It was sooo hot to watch and hear that I lasted about 2 more strokes with his wife before I came in her mouth. We're going to see that couple at a party next week, we're looking forward to that!

"What makes an unforgettable Cunnilingus?" When she cums so hard, whatever was recently deposited in her vagina comes flying out.

We are certainly lurking; occasionally posting; literally doing nothing but anticipating - but, Hey-Baby has been preparing (gym,etc.). Gonna be one giant step for mankind, but we’re almost ready to do our part. We are fortunate to have a very well established club near-by so taking that first step is (will be) at least manageable. I already feel for those who, like us, want to get started but, unlike us, reside in the hinterlands.

I'm the mrs.of our couple. I am a lurker. This where I learn everything. We haven't actually met a couple on line yet and "swapped". But recently went to a club and had our first MFM. Then later that night played side by side with another couple. Next night played in a pile with people. We love it so far. The talking with each other has us hot all the time.

This male not interested in ingesting ejaculate, my own or others.

I think I read somewhere that the pineapple has a place among "black rings on the right hand" and anklets as far a jewelry goes. or silly stuff like upside down in a shopping cart as far as a signifier of "I am a swinger" What I am waiting for is a cell phone app for the same purpose. It could use bluetooth to pick up other phones with the same app. With a limited range say 10-15 feet it could make Big Box stores and grocery shopping fun. BEEP BEEP BEEP

I think some of it has to do too with what kind of sex she likes or is in the mood for. Sometimes the deep penetration is just what the doctor ordered, and other times, it's too much. Sometimes the harder the better, other times call for slow and gentle. Positions make all the difference in the world too, certain positions limit penetration depth, while others enhance it. There's enough room for variation there that getting Part A and Part B to work together well is usually possible with a little experimentation and paying attention to what each other wants.

A man having a big dick needs not to stick it all the way in. A woman having a deep vaginal canal has no problem enjoying a short dick. Well, you asked.

'That was a lot of fun, when can we do it again?'

I can't really narrow it down. It's more the way he says things. He's a very dominant, masculine, possessive-in-the-sexiest-way kind of guy. Makes me melt like butta. As for things that I have said to him, I don't know if it's the hottest thing I've ever said, but Mr. intuition seemed amused. We were expressing how much we were looking forward to our imminent playdate with some friends of ours. I believe I was still putting on my mascara when Mr. intuition asked what I had planned for the evening. I told him I was going to ride [the other guy] like a pony until he cried for him mommy.