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We got back together Christmas 3 years ago. After plenty of talking we progressed and then married. We love each other very much. I would like to think we would have been married by now even if swinging didn’t happen.

It was during our first foursome...my wife said playfully "I don't care who's, but I need somebody's dick inside of of me now!" Yes ma'am!!

The hardest thing you will do all evening is getting up the nerve to walk through the door. After that, things only get easier.

This is true. I think the biggest hurdle people often have when getting started is to overcome the "what are swingers like?" question. Once you find out that they are regular people just like you, then things get easier.

The fun for us is sharing each other with others, watching, touching etc. If Mrs Doc passed, I would not become the horny single guy at M&G's or clubs. I would be available as a 3rd for couples we've known and liked in the lifestyle but I would not be trolling for swinger sex since I'd either be a 3rd wheel or searching for the ubiquitous unicorn. I'd consider swinging again with a new partner. Mrs Doc probably would continue. She could have a night or two a month of NSA sex at parties or clubs. She would likely NOT look for a new partner, she'd figure dating is a pain in the ass and a lot of effort with often times very limited return, especially after age 50. I'd probably haunt her (in a friendly way) cause she's just so damned much fun to watch. It might be my idea of heaven!!

Isn’t great there are no two people alike!? Everyone is a different package. Most all veteran life stylers are very confident in and of themselves. They may not be everyone’s cup of tea....at that time....but they will be someone’s from time to time. Some people are ok in themselves in what they offer someone....to share from the start....others learn this in time and are better people for it. A few never quite get it.....some never. And that’s ok. It’s like some guys prefer large breasts....or big nipples. Your wife seeing how much you are enjoying another lady....larger breasts....tighter body......you wouldn’t want her to feel that she was less....not enough for you? Sharing sex, sexual activity....games....as an extracurricular adult activity is not for everyone. But if it is....the experiences are intoxicating.....and can be shared without any interference with the couple...couples relationship. No one is shopping here.

How do you know? We actually screen in a similar way but being bi isn't the only relevant criteria and one other thing is "bi how". the issue is more promiscuity in certain ways and places as well as possible use of IV drugs and even someone being a paramedic could be relevant. Lab testing IMO isn't much better than screening based on profiles but nothing is certain and no matter what you're doing you are taking a chance with something that can kill you. You're just mitigating your exposure to potential risk to a level acceptable to you. I'm no different, I may just be more honest with myself on some points and lying to myself about some other part of it. Consider testing as many say it's the gold standard. Look at the potential for it to miss, mistakes happen anywhere, but people tend to forget that if your tested during the incubation period it shows to be negative yet you're infected and it doesn't show yet because of math. Female bi activity isn't the same as the risk is different so it's not about being hypocritical. Male bi activity can depend on what they are doing and things are relevant depending on the amount of risk of tearing so if someone is a pitcher or a catcher makes a difference. It gets more complicated, the care in selecting partner one of those guys in a particular sample may take might change his risk and women accepting anal sex might sometimes be at higher risk depending on the totality of the situations. her are people that you have no idea of hw they are when they are out of you immediate sight and hardly anyone details all their activity so you have to look at how they tend to conduct themselves in other situations and their overall opportunity or lack thereof. Confused yet? AES algorithms be damned I doubt this stuff can be expressed by a formula. All this might sound as if I'm slamming other peoples' strategies or dismissing that any strategy can be effective, I'm not. I know there are people that most always goe bareback that only use screening and have not used a condom since the '70s. They might not be as active as some but perhaps be thought of as about half to three quarters of the spectrum. But it can be that when the person you're sure of is out of sight and they travel often, they are doing things you don't know about. You just have to look at the information you have to go by and take your best SWAG to fill in the gaps. There's a good deal of chance in everyone's preferred method. I usually only drag this out into the light when there's three groups or four as the most effective is the "all of the above" strategy but you have people advocating testing or condoms or screening looking down their noses at the others. The reality is there's a lot of variables and the official version of anything like this tends to get "dumbed down" because most people can't absorb all of it in a sitting and people with an agenda in pushing one method or other omit info contrary to their favorite bias. If your only tool is a hammer everything looks like a nail. So testing or now the meds may be pushed as "the" solution but even all together aren't for sure. Look at the parentage effectiveness for condoms for contraceptive use of pregnancy... something like 63% by some studies. Yet if yo use them correctly it's really about 99%. The difference is human error. Similar situation with the pill, about 98-99%, unless there's an antibiotic being used for unrelated reasons most people tend to forget that antibiotics refuce the effectiveness of the pill as does not tasking it at the same time every day, which is more of an issue for some women than others for some reason they may not even understand and perhaps just know the statistics, Might not seem relevant until you consider that it's the exact same issue as forgetting about incubation period being a potential weak link in the testing model of prevention. But yet that is probably more than anything that made HIV the problem it is, the length of the incubation period, which was an issue before there was even a test. If people had been dropping within a week like many other viral infections they would have been able to quarantine We can tend to misinterpret the statistics as well, what would you think if I were to say that the approx 33% fatalities in traffic are caused by drunk drivers, then turn ir around to say that we should be requiring people to drink and drive since the other 66% of deaths were caused by sober drivers? Most would probably see tha error yet there will probably be an attorney at some point what will recognize that the planets are in alignment and argue that and win, just because he can. I hope I haven't caused someone a brain reset all weekend since this is ?Friday. I'm used to it as this stuff happens in my skull all the time, LOL but anyone that read that to the end sees the whole prevention model in this case HIV in a different light.