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So we took in a very good friend about six weeks ago following a very ugly split with her ex. We have know both of them for about ten years and started playing together about three years ago. I actually have known her much longer and before we started hanging out as couples. Anyway, things have evolved to a point where we are sharing our bed 4-5 nights per week. We are playing together and separately. For example, in the morning it’s not unusual for me to come out of the shower and find her and my husband snuggling, touching and even fucking. I actually love seeing them together and have no feelings of jealousy. She and I are doing the same and actually took the day off Wednesday and simply spent the day in bed alone while he was at work. It’s not all about sex, but it’s clear that she really loves him and I think he feels the same about her. I know that I care deeply for her and may actually be in love as well. We prepare meals together, hang out in the evenings together, play together and still swing separately, but it is definitely decreasing. Everything feels very natural and relaxed and we are all content - have we found ourselves slipping into a true polyamorous relationship? I never really thought about it and we were talking about it last night. Thoughts? Warnings? This is uncharted territory.

Your woman has to want to do a gb willingly. It can’t just be the man’s fantasy.

Other than the two couples we visit with regularly and the one single female, our experiences have all been "weekend-fling" type situations, usually one time only. It's contextual that she gets in a mood to do something daring and playful with me, and going out and flirting gets somewhere. We both feel that maintaining contact with those people after it's over would be more drama than it's worth. When she started out she needed people she already knew to feel comfortable, but now she's sort of come around to thinking that it's easier to be do something she still considers taboo with someone she doesn't have to deal with later. So far we haven't had any difficult experiences with people trying to push for too much. We keep the direct communication with our regular partners same-gender. She works out with the single female and is sort of "gatekeeper" for those dates, which is a role she's found she likes. I'd say we've had more drama from the world of vanilla men she has never so much as flirted with than anyone she's given an orgasm to. I suspect, but don't know, that most swinging is more of this kind of sporadic encounter than people maintaining lasting relationships. I'm sure 80% of what goes on in the world happens between people who never show up on forums or at clubs.

My first experience with his bisexuality was very unexpected. We were playing with a male friend after some pretty tame hot tubbing. They both were focused on me so I started to work in their already hard cocks. We moved indoors and it was pretty clear that the other guy was waiting for the green light from my husband to take things further. My husband got on his back and asked me to get into a 69 position. I gave them both some oral and my husband invited the other guy to fuck me if it was okay with me. The guy took me from behind while my husband gave me oral. After a few minutes I could tell he was working on the guys cock while he was fucking me - I was shocked. He actually would put the guys cock in his mouth for a few seconds at a time. It was so incredibly hot I couldn’t hold back. Turns out it was my husbands first experience and was totally spontaneous.

Sounds like it to me. The only red flag to me is that six weeks is an awfully short time. Rebound sex plus some NRE might easily be mistaken for love. Personally I would rein in my enthusiasm. Make sure no one makes any decisions in this matter. Meanwhile , as friends you can supply a solid, safe, even intimate space in which she can heal. In the long run? Maybe you end up as a triad, maybe as very good friends with a pleasant history. Committing too early though sounds dangerous to both friendship and your marriage.

Hey guys, I wanted to know how many men have a fantasy of their wife getting gang banged, and why you want them to. Or if you have done this whether it was your wife or you just participated. Women, what do you like about gang bangs? I have a fantasy of my wife getting gang banged and cream pied. It involves a lot of things we want to try. Like dp, dvp.

A lot of profiles on line talk about friends with benefits. We find that after playing with another couple two or three times, the sex becomes a little routine and predictable. We find the first and second experience exciting, then it usually trails off. Anyone else feel the same?

Long story cut very short. He let one of his friends have sex with her. I guess he likes to watch also. It was ok with her but I wasn't happy about it. It was supposed to be intimate. The three of us got together and I watched her have sex with both of them. It was awesome! Now I have a gang bang fantasy. I want her to do more men in the same experience. I think it can happen. His friends. Friends of his friends. She is not sure she wants to do it. She is worried about letting herself go, getting totally into the experience, in front of me. I think the idea is interesting to her. I think she will try it. I think she will be willing to let things flow and do or allow just about anything. She has never said there would be nothing she wouldn't allow.

We found keeping it to 3 or 4 meetings and then moving on. More than that and guys were telling my wife how much better off she'd be with him.

In the old days of me trolling for women to fuck my husband, I would have started a conversation with her, letting her know that he is mine, does as I say, and I share.

New Relationship Energy. It implies something that burns very hot for a brief period. Some believe that it leads to drama, others believe you should be happy that your spouse has a new toy to be fascinated with for the moment before it fades.

My guess is that it is "New Relationship Energy."

Always. Regards, Petra

She likes to get in doggie with one of us in her pussy and the other in her mouth. Deb is pretty particular who she does anal with, but recently our friend was in her ass and she was blowing me. It was a huge turn on for Deb and I for him to fuck her asshole and I nearly choked her deepthroating when I came!

We disagree. The more time we spend with our 'go to' couple friends, the more comfortable it becomes. We are more adventurous because trust has been established. We better understand each other's wishes and wants. More than a few fantasies have been checked off that were never going to happen on the first or second date/session. Seeing them again next week. Can't wait.

The press gives Cancun a bad rap because it creates a lot of clicks. Just like a sickness breakout on a cruise ship. But she has to look at the data herself and make a decision. Homicide rate per 100,000 people by city: St Louis 60.9 Baltimore 51.0 Detroit 38.9 New Orleans 37.1 Memphis 28.5 Kansas City 27.8 Newark 26.6 Washington 22.8 Cleveland 22.4 Philadelphia 22.1 Buffalo 22.1 Chicago 20.7 . . . Cancun 12.7 Cancun is safer than other cities based upon homicide rates including Tulsa, Ft Wayne, Oakland, Milwaukee and Atlanta. We stay on resort property except for the beach walk down to Puerto Morelos.

I would not swing, but date and be open about wanting a permanent relationship with a woman who would not be monogamous.

The fun for us is sharing each other with others, watching, touching etc. If Mrs Doc passed, I would not become the horny single guy at M&G's or clubs. I would be available as a 3rd for couples we've known and liked in the lifestyle but I would not be trolling for swinger sex since I'd either be a 3rd wheel or searching for the ubiquitous unicorn. I'd consider swinging again with a new partner. Mrs Doc probably would continue. She could have a night or two a month of NSA sex at parties or clubs. She would likely NOT look for a new partner, she'd figure dating is a pain in the ass and a lot of effort with often times very limited return, especially after age 50. I'd probably haunt her (in a friendly way) cause she's just so damned much fun to watch. It might be my idea of heaven!!

Cheating is and will never be swinging. Swinging is all about love, trust and communication. If any of the three are missing, it won't work. First step is to start improving all three...interesting side effect of that will be that once one thing improves, it will spill over to the other two. Make your relationship rock solid first, then start to move forward. That you are thinking about cheating is not a good place to start from. Once the relationship is strong, then start talking about your fantasies...in, and more importantly, out of the bedroom. Don't go any faster than the slowest of you is comfortable with. Set your rules and NEVER violate them (it damages the trust part). Keep talking and never forget how great it is that you have a partner that you can talk to about anything (especially this). Keep in mind that some people are just not wired for swinging, and trying to force them will destroy the relationship. If they can't do it, then they might never be able to do it and you need to be willing to honor their decission. With most guys, the sticking point is usually trust (aren't I good enough for her? Why is she wanting someone else? Ect.) Communication will improve the trust, and trust will increase the love. Take your time and enjoy the ride as much as the destination. Good luck, and don't try to force things.

It’s the endless thread - and I get it. I know that I certainly compare myself to the women my husband fucks. It can be exhausting so we constantly come back to the fact that we are in this purely for fun and sex. We want to be with other people - we want to experience new things. Last night watched my husband with a beautiful 30 year old with an immaculate body and a magic pussy that accepted three separate loads from him. At the same time, her very average husband drove me wild and carried me through several completely satisfying orgasms with his mouth and his beautifully shaped small penis. Earlier in the evening a regular partner spit roasted me with my husband and satisfied me with his 8” beast of a cock. Each was perfect, satisfying and gave me just what I needed - a horny guy who wanted to fuck me and make sure I was left tingling. Every woman I know that swings is content with a partner that is attractive, clean, well groomed and committed to her satisfaction.

I have done an amateur night a few times a couple of years ago. It was definitely a total rush for me seeing so many guys looking at me. Most of the others went topless - I chose to keep my skirt on but removed my panties. The guys flipped as I worked the perimeter of the stage and gave them close up views of my legs spread and pussy spread wide open for them. I still masturbate thinking bout those nights. I agree that exhibitionism can naturally lead to swinging. When we first started with our first couple, we started with nude hot tubbing. Being naked lead to sitting closely to each other’s spouse. This lead to some flirty touching. This led to the guys showing their erect cocks and us first playing with our own spouses together. This lead to wives touching the other guys. This lead to guys sitting on the edge and wives blowing the other guys. This led to taking things inside and full swap sex.

We’ve got those messages. From a couples profile but she isn’t interested in the lifestyle anymore but doesn’t care if he is. Lol or some variation of that story.