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My ex-wife had a similar rule. She did not care if I had sex with other women, however the only rule was no kissing. Her reasoning was that sex was purely physical and could be kept separate from feelings and the possibility of starting a relationship. Kissing on the other hand represented more of an emotional bond, which could result in an ongoing relationship (this was the threat). I don't agree with this thinking, but do understand where she was coming from. Personally I feel that there is a LOT more involved in building a relationship than the kissing in the heat of sex.

I wouldn't DO anything to her. I'd try to discover what gives her pleasure and then hopefully share in her pleasure. Hint: Swinging is basically run by the women, they set the limits and they tend to choose the partners and they decide when or if to have sex. No one DOES my wife!! They share HER, they meet HER needs or SHE walks away. OP has a LOT to learn.

Listening to “swinger diaries” and “we gotta thing” and “that couple next door” podcasts is what made my wife decide to take the jump. We had talked about it for years. It was the podcasts that made her realize swingers were just normal people like us who like sex. With other people.

Ok, do you mind sharing why? I posted this question because I’m truly curious. Thanks!

Yes we understood, this means that swingers friends may meet in someone’s home just for the sake of meeting only and not necessarily that all meetings are punctuated with sex or by physical contact. thank you

There is no HEDO 1. There used to be a HEDO 3 but closed. So there is only HEDO II. We like it there. We have been 16 times. We are not too choosy about the rooms as you only usually sleep there. You have to go at least once. If you are friendly and not a complainer you will have fun When to go is a hard choice. We go during Thanksgiving week. Don't have to use up two vacation days. People are generally older, like we are. The weather is good, and the rates are a little lower.

How Can you have sex without foreplay ? How can you have foreplay without kissing ? No kissing equals no sex for me.