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I have seen this pattern before on this board. When someone doesn’t like the feedback given they adjust the story or continue to rationalize their thoughts over and over. Think about another thread recently bumped about the “double standard” of people that use condoms for penetration but not oral or the countless other threads of men wanting to swing but the wife doesn’t and either how to convince her to or why it is okay for him to cheat. Ask her if she is okay with this level of sexual incompatibility (ironic that spell check puts in incompetence before I finish) and if you want to have sex with others while married to her. Sexual desires are a conversation I have long before the clothes come off.

Hey guys. My wife and i are in our early 30's and have been together for 10 years and talked about swinging for a couple of months. We've been listening to podcasts and reading blogs, really excited about getting into the lifestyle. We talked a lot about our comfort zone and neither of us expected to feel jealous or puzzled so we decided a full swop would be no problem but we'd like to stay together, with a good looking couple that we'd both approve of. We attended a private party in a residential building. On the first floor was a bar and a room that felt a little awkward, like a school dance but no one was dancing. Only couples standing around talking to each other and a few in groups. No one approached us and we were stressed. On the 2nd and 3rd floor of the building were large rooms where people were getting it on from early in the night. the plan was to find a beautiful couple (worth popping the cherry with), mingle and build some excitement and then possibly play with them, but no pressure. After 2-3 hours and not a single couple had approached us, we approached 2-3 and had some stiff conversations that led us nowhere. we walked back and forth from the rooms and finally found our own spot in a open playroom and made out and went down on each other. My wife suggested we'd move over to the big bed. Honestly we were both a little afraid that nothing would happen the evening so this was kind of a panic move that we didn't plan.. On the bed i got very little attention but my wife was approached by 2-3 guys and 2 girls. She started making out with some guy and was soon sucking on his dick and then turned around and he started fucking her. While this was happening i was kind of left behind with my dick in my hand. I must admit i was a little drunk, and was probably not as sharp as if I were sober when trying to approach women on the bed, but i felt they weren't interested. My wife then switched to this girl, made out with her and ended on her back while the girl went down on her until she came. I sat by her back and massaged her while she was receiving oral. After she came we dressed and took a cab back home. While all this was happening i was thinking, is this really happening and no one is interested in me? Still i found the attention my wife was getting was hot but i felt left out and a little sorry for my self. After the experience i felt bad about the whole thing. I think about it over and over again. I'm feeling lonely and afraid about my wife, not as secure about our relationship, and my self esteem is taking the biggest hit of my life. I feel kind of bad thinking about her with the guy because i didn't get the chance to approve of him, and his wife kind of blew me off. My wife tells me she feels bad about the night and gets the chills when thinking about it. We were both a little too drunk. Hopefully she isn't just saying it to make me feel better. After listening to podcasts and reading blogs i was expecting the experience to be "classy" social and sensual. It was rather sleazy and felt like partaking in a porno. We're both pretty bummed out mainly because our expectations and hopes were far from our experience. Am i super naive here? Before the party i was rather worried about my wife than myself. Turned out the experience puzzled me more than her. Are couples usually friendly and outgoing in parties and clubs? Have you experienced self doubt after going to a party? Are parties usually a little sleazy and feel like a strip club? How much do you usually socialise in parties with people you haven't met before?

The other day my GF stripped on stage at a strip club on amateur night. She might not be the best pole dancer but she certainly gives EXTRA attention to the guys.

There are a lot of possible explanations for this, all of which should be addressed instead of hemmed and hawed around until someone ends up very hurt and sad after too much time has passed thinking the other will "come around".

David Lovell, it's not the count, it's how much you enjoyed yourself!

Holy Crap! What an awful story!! How did the parents manage to live with THAT?? How did Laura? She must have felt tremendous guilt. Those folks would NOT have been candidates for parents of the year.

I think you'd be quite surprised at how often sibling sex exists among brother and sister. I was surprised myself. My late wife and her brother did it for years after school and before their parents arrived home from work. One day, her mom arrived early due to a power outage at work and caught them flagrante delecto. The discovery resulted in daily beatings of her brother. Laura was not punished, seen by her parents as the victim despite her having told them she participated voluntarily. It all ended with her brother's suicide. Her parents blamed Stuart's death on the physical beating. Laura thought the beatings were severe but the real reason was the hatred that came from the two people he loved the most. His parents concocted a lie. (He shot himself accidentally while cleaning a .22 rifle he had gotten for his thirteenth birthday.) Stuart left a suicide note, a letter of apology for the terrible thing he'd done to his sister. I included the episode in my first novel, which I've withdrawn because it was a terrible book. The most surprising inputs were from people who, after reading my novel, told me that sibling sex had been a part of their childhood. The women, like Laura, were willing participants. I never heard from anyone who claimed to have been raped.

Tricianmike, I was thinking in terms of who could get hurt by siblings playing which is why I mentioned reproductive age. If there is no chance of creating a child that would be aborted or possibly suffer some kind of genetic abnormalities, then for me, my conclusion stands, who cares? As for Mrs Doc's sister, no she doesn't play. We HAVE talked about the possibility. In a perfect world, my wife wouldn't mind, we've played several times with her very good friend who is perhaps closer than the sister and it was wonderful. It is not a perfect world however and if we even hinted at the possibility, her sister would be absolutely outraged. In puppy talk, I definitely got the pick of the litter. The attached was taken yesterday trying on a christmas present….

I think if a brother and sister are beyond reproductive age, so what? If they go to a club or a party as a couple and play separately, again, so what? My sister? Naaaaa, I don't ever want to see her naked. Mrs Doc's sister, you bet!! In a heartbeat!