Tricianmike, I was thinking in terms of who could get hurt by siblings playing which is why I mentioned reproductive age. If there is no chance of creating a child that would be aborted or possibly suffer some kind of genetic abnormalities, then for me, my conclusion stands, who cares? As for Mrs Doc's sister, no she doesn't play. We HAVE talked about the possibility. In a perfect world, my wife wouldn't mind, we've played several times with her very good friend who is perhaps closer than the sister and it was wonderful. It is not a perfect world however and if we even hinted at the possibility, her sister would be absolutely outraged. In puppy talk, I definitely got the pick of the litter. The attached was taken yesterday trying on a christmas present….