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People often vet themselves before they meet. My wife and I both have advanced degrees, but we just want to meet people who are kind, nice and fun. We don’t care what they do for a living, etc.

You're not insane, but you do seem a little foolish. You admit that you ignored our earlier advice, and the result was less than happy for you. Now you're back asking for our advice. Are you going to ignore it again? It's very clear that your wife has certain feelings, and that you know about them. At the same time, you're trying to change your wife's attitude. Why? Trust me, if she's not happy, you won't be happy. Listen to your wife!

Some clubs are like this. If making the first move doesn't work (and making ANY move is the first move, you'd be surprised how many couples just become wall flowers and can't figure out why they don't get any attention), then try a different club. ALL clubs are different and you won't know if they suit you until you go. As for expectations, we always say to go with the expectation of having a great sexy time with your wife...anything else is a bonus. But you can't score if you don't play the game...Good luck and let us know how things go for you both.

SWINGING LESSON NUMBER ONE: The female makes the call! There are multiple reasons for this but in simple terms, most men will stick their erection in any warm, wet, accommodating place that will have it. Women must let a partner INSIDE her. That's why she makes the call if you ever want to be successful in your marriage and in swinging.

You say you will let her lead on this one! She doesn’t find the man attractive and isn’t into women. She has already said she is not interested in getting together with them again. What more do you need to know to realize that pushing this to happen is a bad idea?

I get that, and fully understand where you're coming from. I'd just never considered that it might be interpreted any other way than how I'm sure it's intended: "we try to live a certain way and if you already know it will be mutually uncomfortable, let's not bother". It's probably a term I would use as a throwaway without thinking about it, but on the other hand, I'm also one of those people who can't handle certain notorious suburbs because the snobbishness grosses me out. I agree that it's not the best euphemism, but I'm not sure specifying "groomed, polite, well-spoken" is actually less insulting. I'm also sorry your daughter gets dumped on at work, I hope she knows it's really more about those people and their inner misery than it is about her.

Ms. Gold doesn't LIKE above average...most often men with large dicks think that the size is enough and just pound away. Well, just pounding and/or 'bottoming out' HURTS some women (Ms Gold included). Skill and paying attention to your partner will ALWAYS win out over pound and grinding away. It's not the size of the wand, but the skill of the magician...

We have a HARD 'no' rule. If either of us say no to another couple, then it's no for both of us regardless to how the other feels. If she isn't into the other guy, then you are just wasting your time and making her do something she isn't interested in...not a good plan. Finding a 4 way match is HARD. Trying to force something that isn't working to work is not going to make it work any better the second time, but IS a common mistake that most couples starting out make. Walk away and keep looking. Nobody said finding another couple would be easy, no matter how hard it is to find ANY couples. It just means you need to look harder...and ALWAYS listen to what your wife says. You don't want her to feel like she isn't being heard and stop communicating. Good luck, but in this case, listen to your wife.

Back to the term, "Professional", used in profiles: I have always thought it was code for "I have to remain anonymous, my job is at stake." Guess I was too simple.

Gotta love 21st century western civilization! There is an "ist" or "phobe" for every behavior or thought that could possibly offend anyone, particularly those who grasp at every opportunity to BE offended. That being said, some people have been assholes to waiters/waitresses for as long as there have been waiters/waitresses. Personally, I think it's generally a good idea to be nice to people who handle my food.

A classist is the same as classism! A prejudice or discrimination on the basis of social class. Like some of the people my daughter has to deal with on a daily basis working as a server in a restaurant that talk down to her and treat her like shit, because she is viewed as less important then they are, because of where she is working. Otherwise known as assholes.

You dodged a bullet Jane and you hurt his apparently tender (as opposed to tinder) feelings!!!!

I think meant to be a more polite code for "not trashy", since some people are looking for that scene. I think it's not so much about money or importance as it's supposed to imply proper grooming, a clean living environment, not dropping foul language at dinner, etc., traits that you'd expect from someone able to hold down a professional job. Sure, mildly snobby/classist, but intended to signal to some people not to waste their time. I can see where that leaves a lot of groomed, clean "non-professional" people in the middle going "WTF", though.

Anal’s Advantage? Thanks Numex for thinking about her cervix lol. Oh, and pushing hard and deep in her butt is so much better for her right? And then does she get the pleasure of sticking her vibrator in your butt, real hard and deep, so you can enjoy that pleasure too. I do have pity for those women who have had their cervix rammed by your massive tool.

An attentive friend with a 5” penis made me cum endlessly last night. He is average in every way except the way he knows how to please me.

First post on the forums! So of course it's about clothes. So we're thinking that maybe we might try clubs or parties sometime, and even just in general I'd like to figure out what I could wear on dates and such that others would consider in the category of "impress" that doesn't make me feel like I'm playing dress-up. I mean, I'm 36, but get mistaken for a college student all the time and that's how I like it. Not interested in the typical porn "hotwife" look even though I'm a vixen. I've been to about 3 clubs in my life and those were goth (those were the days...). I don't think there's a day in the last year I've gone without a beanie (even to church)! I do cute anime girl style... layers of textures, quirky colors, skinny jeans, Doc Martens. Oh yeah, and I have hypermobile joints so I'm not allowed to wear high heels or anything where I have to wrestle into it or put my hands over my head. I'm smallish and slightly Mom-bod-chubby. Ideas? Brands? Help! (would do pics but just realised I have the mom problem... I have no full-length photos of myself or really very many without my kids in them too! Might try to fix that soon)