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We invited our single guy to play with a couple we swap with regularly. An additional guy added a new dynamic to the group play mf + mfm and the men could easily switch between the women. No rules about who could play with whom during or after the session. If they want to invite him to their bedroom w/o us it's fine. We will do it again.

>>> I like to add a f but wife isn’t that bi. Three boys and two girls? Everyone will have something pleasurable without bi-play, trust me.

If i’m sucking your cock - don’t grab my fucking head! We were with a couple last night that we have played with a few times. My husband and his wife really click so i’m in it for him. Her husband is gorgeous and is very proud of his impressive cock, but i’m not as smitten as he believes or wants me to be. Anyway - I play the game and honestly, he feels good. Anyway, I know he loves to feel dominant and i’m cool with that. I got on my knees in front of him and started to work my oral magic. Honestly, I’m not a fan of sucking big cocks but I know he loves it and I like getting him nice and hard before fucking. While he was comfortably inside my mouth, he gently but forcefully pulled me closer forcing me to deep throat his cock. I’m even okay with that, but on MY TERMS. I stood up and said “you’re fucking done - never again.” I got dressed and walked out and my husband followed shortly after. I felt bad because we were at a club in one of their rooms and I’m not one to create a scene but you know, fuck him. Big, small, thick, thin - boys, mind your manners!

Hi, unicorn here.. So I went to a club nearby for one of the nights that allow single guys after having a super great experience at a couples only/ single ladies night. So anyway, there’s one couple there that I’m chatting up and we go to a room. I wanted to watch first, a pleasure of mine, and the guy was basically trying to direct his own porno. He just kept saying “I want you to do this” “do this” “get over there”. I had to consistently tell him what I wanted. Then at one point suggesting things that his partner didn’t evn like. I got dressed and left while they finished. After I left them, I started talking to another guy who was curious as to how to introduce his wife to the scene. He began to describe her and I’m like oh she sounds beautiful. So then he’s like yeah “if I go get her can u lick her and let her taste you?” I say I’m into having at least a conversation first so let’s start with that. He responds with “yes we’re talking right now”. I felt really used and not considered. Turn off! Point being, I understand that I am adding to the dynamic of a couple and it’s not always about what I want but DAMN we unis have our own wants and kinks!

That's weird because they should be so lucky just to have you involved. Those are the kind of conversations I would have with other guys looking to fuck my GF but never a woman.

In order to be successful with swinging, you first must have a rock solid relationship with an abundance of love, trust and communication...newsflash: you don't have this. If possible (is say possible because it doesn't sound like she will be interested) you need to stop all interactions NOW and work on fixing your relationship. With Ms. Gold and myself, if either of us were to say that we wanted to stop, we (as a couple) would be done with no regrets and no looking back. This doesn't sound like your wife. Pandora's box has been opened for her and it sounds like she doesn't want to look back. Talk with her asap and let her know that this needs to be put on pause, at least for now. It will be interesting to hear what her response will be...

One other thought: Seeing a new couple at a club...the 'regulars' never know if it is just a couple of thrill seekers checking the place out, a couple where one of the two didn't really know where they were going, a couple that isn't ready to swing, a couple that thinks that swinging may save their doomed relationship, or a couple that has talked about this and is emotionally ready and secure enough in their relationship to be successful with swinging. After several visits, that ice may be broken, but nobody wants to take the risk of drama. You need to show them that you are a couple that's ready for this and is going to be drama free.

My wife and I thought it was funny that we had more sexual partners while we were married in our fifties than we did when we were single in our twenties. If you told us that would be the case when we were in our twenties, we would not have understood it.

I think you're right that it plays a role, I just know men are more reliable consumers of porn and feel like women are the ones who are most insistent on this. Pain, too, is subjective. Some women love getting their hair pulled forcefully, others get headaches. Some are turned off by any kind of nipple pain, others keep those little clamps in their nightstand because the stimulation is so closely linked to orgasm for them. It's the dumb guys who meet one woman who really has a great time getting facefucked with nipple clamps on, and conclude that every woman will love it. They're apparently out there ruining the good times for everyone.

Let me take one big step back and point out that consensual rough sex isn't abuse, although it can certainly cross a line. We're not talking about BDSM or leaving injuries, here. In any case, I have no idea why it's the case, but as a (relatively) young member of this forum, that was my experience on the dating market and anecdotally, is a common experience. A lot of men in their 20s and 30s have had most of their experience with women who won't bother to try again with a guy they find sexually boring, and I absolutely believe it's usually women taking the lead on asking for that kind of stimulation. I've certainly had the experience of being with women who wanted something rougher than I was comfortable with, and also of being approached by women who wanted to cheat because they weren't getting that in their relationship. I can absolutely see where some clueless guys interacting with women who aren't into that screw up badly, because they just assume that "this is what being good at sex is" and all women want the same thing. Personally, I'd never "grab" somebody's head without some signals from them, but facefucking is something I've not just done with most women I've been with, but been begged to do in a few cases. Ironically, one woman recently told me that she likes it because of the progress you just mentioned: she's in charge all day at work and finds it relaxing to feel submissive and powerless - in a safe, temporary environment. I don't think that would explain most of it, though. Some of it, frankly, might just be some latent guilt about sex and the need to role-play someone else having control of the situation, even though that's not really what's happening.

Mrs Doc gives incredible head. The operative word is "gives"! The minute someone thinks he can start to skull fuck her it ceases to be something given and becomes something taken and no one takes anything from her sexually. Even if there is an apology after, the guy becomes an asshole in her mind and NEVER gets a 2nd chance.

Pricks like this guy are why the missus wants nothing to do with dominant men! Let the woman be in control of what she is doing down there and you are bond to get an amazing enthusiastic blowjob if your not an asshole.

Unfortunately this is becoming more of the norm. My GF loves getting facefucked by guys so it isn't a big deal for her but it is almost weird how it is kind of expected. I think I just posted in another thread that the two things she says guys will always try to force upon her are anal and facefucking. And I have noticed the whole facefucking and domination/humiliation rough sex thing is more common with the younger generation which could be related to a lot of the porn today.

Whenever my wife is interested in someone or something, sexual or not, I always support her and she always lets me in on it, whether it's some stupid exercise thing, a group of lesbian girlfriends who aren't interested in men/me, or her volunteer work. Spouses don't have to be interested in and do the same things, but they shouldn't hide them from one another.

Trolls are always going to try to keep the conversation going. They have a tendency to adjust the story to justify their actions. It can even be entertaining. If any of its real it’s his marriage to fuck up and hope none of us cross ways.

My wife has worn revealing clothes since we were married in 1972. The funniest time I remember is when we had spent the night in a Motel 8 outside of Fort Sumner NM. Wife was 42. We had stayed on the second floor across from the stairs. We were leaving. I was in the car waiting for her. Next to me was a guy waiting on his wife in his care and their two boys 8 and 10. His wife and my wife came out of the rooms at the same time. They met at the base of the stairs. She was wearing an unbuttoned sleeveless sheer top blouse and see through yellow shorts. Her nice breasts were hanging out and you could see her pubic hair through her shorts. My wife was wearing a black fish net top no bra and a white sheer shorts. You could see all of her breasts clearly and her pussy. They stopped, looked at each other and began to talking. They laughed and talked forever. I turned off my car and he did the same. Both of their breasts wiggled and bounced for all to see as well as their pussies. It was very beautiful to see. After 18 minutes, I know for sure I kept time, they finally hugged, mashing their exposed huge breasts and exchanged phone numbers. They were from Montana on vacation going to Juarez Mexico. My wife told her the best way to get there. We were heading to Wyoming. She told my wife what to see and visit on the way. They still talk today. My wife enjoys displaying her bare breasts in public.

SWINGING LESSON NUMBER ONE: The female makes the call! There are multiple reasons for this but in simple terms, most men will stick their erection in any warm, wet, accommodating place that will have it. Women must let a partner INSIDE her. That's why she makes the call if you ever want to be successful in your marriage and in swinging.

I find it very sad that the general public accepts couples where one of the spouses have secret affairs but get all bent out of shape with couplee who decide to live a non-monogamous lifestyle where no one is hurt.

We had almost but not exactly the Same situation. Connected with a couple online. Decided to meet at a club. Last minute they had a girlfriend want to join. She came along and a good time was had by all.