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I have read your other posts written by the husband. I really don’t understand why the two of you keep this going. Yes it’s a great fantasy but it doesn’t sound like an enjoyable reality. Why are you not taking a break from any swinging/open marriage activities and working on your marriage? Just stop.

Until the two of you are on the same page and you can both talk to each other about this, you need to stop with the other girl. There are always other women in the future, but first your husband needs to wake up and realize how lucky he is. Good luck and let us know how things progress.

Have you ever considered the possibility that you really just want to suck a cock and have it cum in your mouth?

Since our interest is in everyone playing, yeah, I'd find watching to be sort of boring. So, if Harriet was interested in just playing with the female for a while, I wouldn't find it awkward to go entertain myself until it was time to join in. If your wife was upset, she shouldn't be. You weren't really included as anything but a voyeur and if that isn't all that exciting for you, she should be happy that you can entertain yourself doing something else. I really don't see what your wife has to complain about. She was busy doing what she wanted to do and you weren't included at that time. And apparently, you did exactly what you were there to do, so I can't see why your wife cared what you were doing to keep busy with something you weren't bored with.

That is true, but to get people to read a profile, it needs to be thought out and edited constantly to improve it it and above all, make it interesting and fun to read. People, including us, just get turned off by profiles that go on and on with "we are," or "I am" statements that read like a list of things the writer(s) think about themselves. If there are photos up, one hardly needs to say "we're sexy," since that will be determined by whomever is looking at the photos. I have a PhD, but I wouldn't think of putting that in a profile. (In fact, I think it's pretentious to even use the title.) That is exactly right. However, if you want to tell people you are a fun, educated couple, the best way to do that is to make a profile that is entertaining and well written. It isn't necessary to say "we are," or whatever, to make those things clear by writing something that actually demostrates that in some way. What people write should convey a sense of their personalities. That may take some effort, but people who read it and identify with it will probably be more compatible personality wise. I think too many profiles are written to just to write something without think about the audience reading it. That is probably true. If we are looking for "professionals" as that was described ein an earlier post, telling us means nothing. What we look for is the level of writing and effort that went into writing the profile. Does this couple seem like they would be fun to meet? Do they take themselves too seriously or seem like a pain in the ass to deal with? I look at it like this. The more people who are interested in our profile, the more people we get to make choices about, so the time taken to trhink aout what one is writing, checking spelling and grammar, making it flow so that is readable and saying what you are looking for in a non-offensive way works much better than just saying what you are and what you want in a list like fashion. Who we are is really the judgment others have to make regardless of how we perceive ourselves. That's best done by getting our personalities into the profile by how we write what we write.

Agreed, and I get that fairly often because my wife likes pussy as much as I do, so she's always looking for an FFM. But I must admit, watching a man and woman (my wife or not) screw any which way will get me hard. Same here, which is why I'll always go second in a serial MFM. It's not that I like the sloppy seconds so much as the show is much more fun for me before I blow my load.

I know this is an old post, but thanks for the review of YKW. I want to take my wife there on a first time experience and it sounds great for us.

No! When I watch Mrs Doc engaged in some kind of sexual activity, it is ALWAYS arousing. Its porn, my own personal porn. I simply cannot be bored watching her having erotic fun. Maybe the OP needs a new hobby.

The sound bite generation wouldn't get past the 4th sentence. I lasted a bit longer and then rolled my eyes and went on to something else. You can only dazzle the people with bullshit for so long.

We enjoy something similar IRL. When my wife has come home from a quick encounter with one of our play partners, I'll be horny as hell. So I eat her for a short while until I can't stand it, take sloppy seconds, then calmly give her another orgasm licking her double sloppy pussy.

Even if they weren't playmates you'd be playing with fire. Think about how you'd feel being around someone you owe money too, now put them in your shoes... now add sex to the mix. Now, think about how you'd feel if you owed money to someone that you occasionally had sex with... would it make it more difficult to say you weren't up for playing? Would you maybe avoid them? We've made it a policy to not give loans (period). If someone we know needs help and we can help them we will give them the help, but not as a loan, as a gift. However, with swinging involved, I'd have to be really really good friends to even give that kind of gift (I'm just seeing too many ways that would go awkward).

Alura: I like that reply. I have sent her an email telling her I can only afford a couple hundred bucks, she hasn't replied yet. I do feel sorry for them but like someone else said, I can't go broke myself and can't save the world either. Although, on the same token, I have had many friends who helped me out of tough spots too, whether it was a loan or just emotional support. I just don't want to do the wrong thing, you know? Thanks for all the feedback! Mrs. HR

Yes. Yes. ....and yes. Three replies, three excellent pieces of wisdom.

Sage advice. I would just give them the money, again no more than the amount that you don't care to get back. If they insist it is a loan, i.e. don't want to feel like you are giving them charity, fine. Tell them they can pay you when you can, but I would would treat it like a gift in your mind. Don't be surprised if they spend the money in ways you don't think is appropriate or start spending money on other things before they pay you back. Money lending tends to change personal dynamics in ways you can never foresee.

My policy when lending money to friends is to only lend an amount that I don't care if I ever see again. So if the amount is such that you don't care at all whether you actually get it back, then consider it a gift and give it to them. Otherwise, don't do it. As prometheius mentioned, that will just put a strain on your friendship. Not to mention your sexual relationship with them.