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Sounds like a similar story to Ms. Golds experience: Her (then) husband convinced her to try swinging with some friends (which is why we don't support swinging with friends) in an effort to 'improve' their marriage... it didn't and it cost them some friends. The marriage was already in trouble and it also ended that. Several years later when we met, we were telling each other about our romantic experiences and she told me about how they experimented with swinging. Much to my surprise, she said that she could possibly be interested in trying swinging again, it just needed to be with the right person and circumstances. We started doing research (we are both data junkies) and found this forum (as well as other information from the web) and here we are! Swinging will never save a bad relationship, but it can add the sprinkles to the great ice cream sundae of life. Let us know if you have any questions or just want to talk more.

Three things about the LS. First, there is no reliable way to discern a swinger from a vanilla without someone asking/telling. This is one reason why swinger resorts exist. Someone has to ask. No means no. No thank you means no. Maybe means no. Yes means yes. Get used to a great deal of no. Occasionally nudists will bristle, but that's the exception--they know that running around naked is an alternate lifestyle, and there is some overlap among the lifestyles. See the third item. Second, naked does not imply LS even in a nudist environment. Many nudists are just that, G-rated nudists. Their conduct would pass muster at a church social--except for the nakedness. Third, some nudists eventually do cross over to "the dark side" and join the LS. We were/are in that group. Swinging is out of the question until it's situational. And then it's no longer out of the question.

During sex, I mentioned a specific fantasy of watching her suck cock. A few days later she asked me as we pulled into the driveway after grocery shopping if I was serious and asked a couple of questions about it, then said she could probably get into that. It took a couple years of talking for us to actually do it.

Greetings. We are new here. I (Marla) have some experience swinging. But it was a long (long) time ago before I met Brian. We been together almost 30-years. Last year (I was a bit buzzed) I mentioned my past swinging to him. At first I thought he might get mad, but was pleased to see he was aroused. So I told him some of the details. I swapped a few times with my first husband but didn't really enjoy it. I knew marriage was on rocks and he talked me into it, I was thinking it might help smooth things out. Of course it didn't and we divorced. After my divorce I did have some fun 3 or 4 times a year with a group of friends that would meet up for a long weekend. I also use to travel a fair amount for work and was able to have fun on the road. But as I mentioned it was a long time ago. Anyways, since I brought it up to Brian we've talked about starting up (he has no experience). But since I've been out of it for such a long time I feel like a novice. So we joined this site to mainly get information about the lifestyles ins & outs (so to speak no pun intended) these days. So I think we will be reading a lot of the forms to get up to speed about the lifestyle. So thanks to all those who post here, it will help us in many ways as this journey moves on, if it does at all.

That’s exactly right! We’re going to talk about it this weekend and make some new rules going forward so we don’t wind up in this scenario again. Thanks for the feedback! Have a great weekend.

I showed my wife a scene from "Screw my wife please" and she was onboard immediately.

In my opinion that when the wife starts talking about it then it is wonderful and exciting

It was the Ms. We were talking about all of our previous experience and she told the story about how her and her ex swapped with another couple (family friends) in their hot tub (hot tubs = gateway to swinging ). The marriage was too far gone and they had no communication when this happened (and the other husband fell 'in love' with Ms. Gold and would have left his wife if Ms. Gold had any interest)... this is why we don't recommend swinging with friends. The thing that surprised me out of all of this is she said that she didn't have a problem with swinging and would consider doing it again under the right circumstances. We talked a bunch more and here we are!

This isn't that surprising. My GF and I go to a club by us and they have separate "rooms" which are just beds with curtains around them. The second we go up to a bed guys start creeping around and working their way in. Sometimes it gets a little too crowded with guys so I'll step back and just enjoy watching. Because there are so many more men looking for action I can see how someone can feel left out at these places. Occasionally there are women for me to play with but I never get anywhere near the amount of attention my GF gets. I think it's just the reality of these places.

You can call it whatever you want but the reality is that your drug dealer got you stoned on your ass and then fucked your wife in a car. Lessons to be learned from this are: 1. Your drug dealer isn't your friend. 2. Drug dealers are not to be trusted. 3. Your wife fucked your drug dealer. She cheated on you, she was NOT swinging. 4. Protecting your wife should ALWAYS be your first priority. 5. You failed to behave like a man and stay sober enough to protect your wife. 6. If your still doing business with that guy, he's probably still doing business with your wife. This may have been the first time she cheated but I seriously doubt it and I seriously doubt it will be the last time.

For my two cents worth . We wouldn’t consider this swinging .. just our take on it but we believe swinging should be open and honest ? Or am I looking at this wrong ?

I have noticed a tone in your posts as often “isn’t this funny” or you asking others to share their experiences. Are you seeking advice from others, wanting validation by asking others for their experiences, just wanting to share your story or trolling? Please clarify so some of us can better understand and respond to your posts.

Congratulations! While it is always risky to try swinging with best (or close) friends, it can also be very...rewarding, exciting, comfortable, easy sin you are already friends to start with. The drama only happens when the communication breaks down or other inter-couple problems arise, so be aware of these things and enjoy yourselves. Thanks to letting us know how your experiences are progressing and continued good luck!