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I agree njbm. I understand the dilemma it must be if you are a club owner with bills to pay and employees that need their next paycheck to support themselves and their families. I think one has to try to keep in mind that weathering a bad month or two is better than not doing your part to keep this from getting out of control. If that happens, that is likely the end of your business for good because of the drastic changes to our society and economy that will take a good long while to recover from. For the more "nonbusiness" type events like meet and greets, maybe it's just me, but swinging just isn't enough a priority in my life to make me want to risk anything over it. It will be there in three months or whatever, so no need to push your luck on anything today and bring harm to yourself or others over it. Did I get out today and go pick up some home improvements supplies that didn't absolutely have to be gotten right now? Yes. Did I forego any browsing around to see what was on sale, etc. Yes, went right to what I needed, got it, and left. Did I stop by some of the other places I normally would have if this wasn't going on? No. Point being there is some middle ground between your normal life and hunkered down in your bunker. We're not in a high risk group, but swinging just isn't a big enough deal for us for it to qualify to be included in that middle ground.

We concur. Let's assume concerns about transmissions extend through spring and summer. What can LS people do to sustain the LS? It's time to get creative beyond cruises, hotel takeovers and house parties. What would it look like if, for example, there was a commitment to 2+2 for 2 (weeks, or months, or seasons)?

We noticed lifestyle events happening tonight on SLS. I think one would have to be at the least highly irresponsible to host or attend such an event. Even if one thinks that they are too young to have a bad outcome, they could spread it to older friends and relatives.

We are about ten days behind Italy. There was a point in the president’s press conference today where he indicated that travel within the US will be restricted. The science is that the virus may not become symptomatic for up to 14 days, while the unknowing carrier is shedding virus among otherwise healthy folk, including those over sixty or with underlying health conditions that make them more susceptible to a bad outcome. Symptoms can last up to 37 days thereafter. As of yesterday, Italy had a 6% death rate among all victims. I haven’t checked today. Here in Tennessee, there have been runs on grocery stores, and the governor has declared an emergency, as has the president nationally. Due to the relative inaction of responsible government officials until this week, there has been a relative lack of testing in the US. While it will get ramped up, social distancing is necessary to protect the medical system and keep it from being overwhelmed in the coming weeks. I strongly approve of the suggestion of virtual play for the next couple of months. Here is my state government’s explanation:

That's a great point, and I suspect we will see things move in that direction even if it's not a totally conscious decision. Instead of scanning the upcoming event calendar on your favorite swinger website, I suspect some will be spending that time looking at profiles instead trying to set up a 2+2 for drinks/dinner meet. I think clubs and events are a super important part of the swinging and don't ever want to see them fade away, but for the time being, I won't be surprised to see them taking a less prominent roll in the swinging big picture.

My wife likes having MFF where she is screwing the guy either missionary or doggy, while licking another woman's pussy. She also likes watching me doing doggy on a woman while that woman licks her pussy.

Perhaps we should be discussing virtual house parties and clubs...

I don't know what's worse? Over-reacting or under-reacting? Neither extreme is good - neither one is reasonable - neither one helps the situation. ?

His_harley, I think adamgunn is correct. There are situations where couples live apart, but are still quite stable. It's uncommon, but it does exist. The whole point here is wondering how stable the couple is? Some swinging couples won't play with couples who aren't married for that very reason. You two fall into that category, unfortunately, We wouldn't have an issue playing with you since you've been together for ten years, but some would. Likewise, there's reason to potentially be concerned here. What you don't want is drama coming from this couple. If they're not very well committed to each other, there's the potential for drama. That's impossible for us to judge, and will have to be something you two see/feel for yourselves coming from them.

Individual concerns aside, the World Health Organization has (finally) declared the current situation to be a pandemic. The US case counts are probably just about a week behind Italy, France, Germany and other European countries, while case rate growth is fairly similar.

This should be a real concern not because of news reports but because scientists say so. When the NIH and CDC doctors give reports that we should take precautions, I will listen to them over those who want to make political statements. I want to know why a congressman who made fun of the disease by wearing a gas mask to a vote on funding is now in quarantine. I will take the advice of real doctors not spin doctors. My husband travels and his company is now curtailing business travel. Italy is closed down. Israel is quarantining those entering the country. Ireland has cancelled St. Patrick’s Day celebrations. Do you think they are doing this because CNN is blowing this up? We have curtailed our playing for now. Most of my friends who play have agreed that now is not the time to take chances and my friends are not in the high risk demographic.

We hit the strip club Treasures in Vegas on our way to vacation a few weeks ago. (Would not recommend, mediocre experience.) We won't be doing that kind of thing again for a bit or going to large, crowded gatherings with a large number of circulating new people generally. We'll certainly continue to see friends/playmates in largely unaffected areas, but we live close to an active outbreak and won't be socializing with people from that area for a while or traveling through terminals in that city. We're seriously assessing if we want to do anymore flying at all until this has shaken out, I expect that within a week or a month every hub airport is going to be pretty sketchy, hygiene-wise. I work close enough to this field to have a moderately informed opinion, feel free to ignore it: this certainly isn't the Spanish Flu, but outbreaks are placing a horrific burden on hospitals for equipment and personnel they often don't have. Taking some sensible steps beyond normal hygiene to modify your behavior to avoid spreading it is important right now until our system gets to where it needs to be to handle it, which may take a minute, and also is just considerate of the vulnerable and of first responders.

We respectfully disagree with this statement. SARS-CoV-2, the virus that causes Covid-19, is a novel pathogen that is demonstrably highly transmissible and demonstrably has serious consequences in vulnerable populations. Unlike influenza for which there is a vaccine and antiviral therapy, there are currently no known effective medical countermeasures against this novel coronavirus. Until further information becomes available from scientists and public health authorities, we think prudence is indicated. Indeed, earlier today a senior USG expert (Dr. Anthony Fauci) made strong and clear recommendations for older Americans, especially those with chronic health conditions, about avoidance of long flights, cruise ships and so on.

We cancelled our lifestyle cruise to Australia and New Zealand scheduled for mid-March. We are on the older side. We did not want to risk getting quarantined far from home. Also, they could close their tourist sites. We got a credit for a future cruise and flights.

We don't have anything imminent on our swinging calendar, so sort of a hypothetical for us. Good question though, and I don't really know what our answer would be. I think it would depend on the situation. Meeting up with some old friends - absolutely no problem. Meeting some potential new friends for drinks/dinner - not really a problem. Visiting a swingers club - probably a no on that right now, can do that anytime. Put that club in a city where there is already confirmed case(s), then definite no. Swingers cruise - if we won some sort of swinger lottery and someone gave us free tickets, thanks but no thanks. If we had laid out a whole bunch of money and bought the tickets months ago, and there was no way to cancel without losing all the money, then that would be a dilemma. If we had the option to cancel with a cancellation fee, then yes, that's probably what we would do. I suspect just like other travel/leisure businesses, some clubs are seeing a dropoff in business, but nothing too extreme yet. Swingers are probably like most other people, just in sort of a holding pattern of waiting and watching to see where this thing is going to go. Maybe have made a few adjustments, but not in full lockdown mode yet either.

I've been on both ends also. It's one of those details that makes playing fun.

Kissing after oral is hot. Love the lingering taste and smell.

Again the kissing question. I’m sorry I just don’t understand the fascination with kissing. I kiss everybody. If I am going to put my mouth in much more intimate places, I am going to kiss you too. My pet peeve is those who won’t kiss after oral sex. Are you kidding me?

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We are both bi and we both love to kiss our bi partners.

As with many issues, don't knock it until you've tried it. Intellectually, some plumbing appliances notwithstanding, what're the biological differences between the sexes? If a man (or woman) chooses to attach his(/her) lips to another person's body . . . ? Or, let's imagine it's a group in a very darkened room, and who knows who is doing what to whomever else? A man can have very soft, luscious lips; and a woman can have hard thin lips. Does that one attribute make one a more desirable sex partner than the other? We think not. But, to each their own.

Wow, it is hard for us to have any relations with our swaps without kissing. We checked it all ok. We typically use condoms but there have been couples that we have not used them with because of the relationship we have with them. As a matter of fact we have turned couples down for meeting because of their lack of willingness to kiss. It is hard for us to understand how someone can go down male or female and not be willing to kiss the man or women they did it on. Nothing wrong with them just not our cup of tea, if they can't kiss me or my wife than we prefer to find someone who will. We swing to swing and to us that means everything as long as everyone is comfortable going in. I will say this I never, never do anal on another women unless they ask me to. As far as my wife's ass, it is hers and I let her make that decision which she will or won't depending on the man and how he treats her... We make love at home and we have fun when we swap so for us the intimacy is all about the attitude and the heart behind it.

COVID-19 is the latest in a constant series of fear mongering enterprises: Y2K, Anthrax, West Nile Virus, SARS, Bird Flu, Ecoli, the 2008 Financial Crisis/Great Recession; Swine Flu, BP oil spill, the Mayan Calendar, North Korea (now, that one is realistic), Ebola, ISIS and Russia. Nearly every year. I'm worried about the little boy who cried "Wolf" too often.