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My late wife was 5'9" tall. I'm 5'3". Laura was asked many times in our 30 year marriage, "Why did you marry such a short man?" She had a standard reply: "I'd rather measure a man from the bottom of his heart to the top of his mind. He's the tallest man I've ever met." Oh, my! How I loved that woman!

A conversation at Easter dinner yesterday: Daughter (age 33) : "Thank heavens I have sex positive parents." Her fiance': "Really, thank heavens you do have sex positive parents. My parents never even talked about sex." Mrs. FL: "How could we not be sex positive? Life would be boring. What would be the point?" Daughter (replying): "This is why my parents are still married and happy." Are you (or were you) sex positive parents? Why, or why not? What does/did it mean to be a "sex positive parent" as you are/were raising your kids? Was it a conscious decision? How do you evaluate the outcome of your choice and actions?

Yes, both in terms of knowledge and attitude. We always wanted the kids to know that we had an active and happy sex life. Although we are noisier now, we never felt the need to overly conceal it when we made love. By the time the youngest was 8 or 9 they had a pretty good idea why mom and dad disappeared into their room for an hour or two on Sunday afternoon. I know it , was not lost on them, that among their friends, theirs were one of the rare set of parents that were still joyously married . I believe they made the connection. We had to get the message across to each, according to their personalities, that there was a time and a season for it in everyone's lives. That their season would come and that they would hopefully proceed with their minds not their gonads leading the way. So far so good with each of them, I guess it worked. It is such fun to have our daughter, and mother of three, be able to just drop a bit of ribald humor on us over a family dinner without a pause.

My mother in law likes to ask my wife where she was when my wife missed her call. We both find that annoying and intrusive. So she called once and left a message while we were having sex. My wife called her back later. Her mother asked us where we were ( at 10am on a weekend?). My wife said we were having sex. Her mother replied “Wonderful!” So I guess you can say that my mother in law is sex positive.

We're positive we're parents. We positively have sex. Our kids (6 between us) all have children so they have sex I guess we did OK

I have a sometime playmate who has become a friend. She’s quite attractive, great smile and nice eyes. She has a good figure. And she’s six feet tall. I’m 5’ 7’ and if we are standing in order to kiss I have to get on my tip-toes and she has to bend her head down. Early on she seemed to have some issues about the discrepancy in our heights. I pointed out to her that when we were laying down we were the same “height”. We eventually got past the height issue and she isn’t reticent to be with me in public when we’ve occasionally gone out for dinner, though I’m not sure at all it was my comment that helped. ? My experience overall has been that many women of higher than average height feel self conscious about their stature, and wish they were shorter. They avoid heels and sometimes slump a bit. Then there are the tall and elegant women who wear their height with pride. ?

I think things will happen much like Fundamental Law expects. I actually think swinging, at least in some form, will come back fast once a tipping point is reached. Whether that happens one week, one month, six months, or a year after the peak crisis from a strictly pandemic point of view, hard to tell. At some point though, there will be be mass movement to the new normal mindset. I don't think that's unique to swinging either, the trend will track the same way on a lot of other things that are part of people's lives. Whether that's wise or not, or can even be supported by the facts and data, I wouldn't want to guess that, but at some point, it will happen. What the trigger will be isn't predictable either, but it likely won't be a result of any official announcement by any medical expert or public figure. Instead, it will just be a shift in the zeitgist to a "well that sucked, but time to move on." I agree testing will play a big role in all of this. When it comes to swinging specifically, I suspect it will be similar to STD testing. For some it's a nonnegotiable necessity, for others, they don't give it a second thought.

It's an excellent topic. One might also reasonably ask, "How does swinging come back?". The central problem is that "social distancing", which is an oxymoron of sorts (see also "jumbo shrimp"), is inimical to intimacy generally and swinging specifically. One might guess that it will be staged. Private pools will open for the spring/summer season in North America, and we would expect couples to have couples over for bit of nude relaxation. We also expect that couples' dating will resume first with "couples (you/we) know", and maybe based on knowledge/experience of their focus on healthy habits. We think it will be a while before clubs, big boats, big houseparties and so on will return. We think the LS will also be changed a bit. Some couples in the LS will decide that "it's not worth the risks anymore". Other couples will figure out from having lost people they care about that life is indeed a lot shorter and a lot less controlled than we would like to think and say, "this is our time to explore the LS". Still others will stay in the LS but change their play patterns as a deliberate risk management strategy. We are waiting for serology testing to surface. We had an illness in January that certainly could have been Covid-19--"bad colds" but of course the virus was not thought to be in the USA at that time and there was not even a glimmer of what was happening and what would happen. More generally, we think testing for SARS-CoV-2 -- both for the virus and for the serologic response--will become commonplace, and we think/hope that LS people will see the importance of timely testing. What are your thoughts? One more thing: at least you can eat a "jumbo shrimp".

If your look at the overall population of the US, blacks make up roughly 13-15%. We have been swinging since 2003, initially primarily at clubs in the northeast corridor and at Desire. Our overall experience is, I guess anecdotal, but the number of black couples we've seen in those settings were few and far between and probably a much smaller proportion in the swinger population than in the general population of the country. I can't even begin to guess why that appears to be so. We've seen way more mixed couples over the years than black couples and way, way more single black males than single black females. The original question, "how do swingers feel about black females" is simple for us, we like females, Mrs Doc is more or less bi-lite and I am a pure heterosexual. If we meet a woman who is either single or part of a couple and who is attractive, intelligent and playful and who is interested in us, race is a non issue. In fact, one of our most memorable nights was at a halloween party at a club. Everyone was in costume of course, and as the night progressed we and our friends noticed a black woman in a very sexy Klingon costume complete with the oversized forehead. Mrs Doc and I spoke to her a couple of times in passing and found out that she was single and it was her first club visit. She did say she was primarily interested in having a bisexual experience and since that was not my wife's focus, we figured we had seen the last of her as we and our friends (another couple) headed off to find a room. We were sorta playing together in the hallway, there may have been some boobage going on etc, until a room opened and the Klingon walked by and stopped to watch/chat a little. We found an open door and as we and our friends went in the Klingon asked if she could join us again saying she was interested in women. She was very nice and very attractive and our friend was a bit more than curious so we invited the Klingon in. We all pretty much undressed each other and the Klingon was just as sexy out of the costume. The other wife and her engaged in some bi-play, there was a lot of foreplay among the 5 of us. Then she went down on Mrs Doc and while her butt was up in the air, I asked if I could touch her and she said yes. She licked my wife to several orgasms while I fingered her and she just got wetter and wetter and thrusted back onto my hand. The other wife saw her reaction and she asked if she wanted me to boink her. She said yes so I did. Before the night was over, She gave the other guy a bj, we both went down on her, both guys came at some point with somebody and the Klingon and both wives had multiple orgasms. It was an incredible night. We only ever got her first name, she told us she was not on any swinger sites but said she'd be back to the club. Neither we nor our friends ever saw her there again. Im sure there was more to her story but I'm fairly certain we four provided her with a fun evening.

Developed and widely deployed. Being in the lifestyle has added a lot to my life. But I’m in my early 70s and while I have no other co-morbidity factors, the risk factor of my age alone is such that even when the current wave of infection subsides I will be less cavalier about engaging in activities that come with significant exposure to infection — cold, the flu, as well as Covid-19 — than I was until now. Most likely I won’t be having sex with anyone other than my wife until there is a vaccine and it’s been widely deployed.

We are all the same size in bed. People seem to find the vital parts regardless of height. One just has to move around a bit.

Mary is 5'7", and is more immediately attracted to taller men at the club and house parties. But . . . if a guy shows her a sense of humor and is good looking, she'll enjoy a smaller man.

Just a guess: When a vaccine for Coronavirus is developed.

One way to frame conversations in the LS involves telling FIBs (no, not fibs as in lies): Fantasies--What are your fantasies? Intentions--What are your intentions (what directions are you taking these fantasies?) Boundaries--What's the stopping point? How far will you go with your intentions before a 'check-in' and reengaging in conversation? This is a deceptively simply checklist. But it gets the issues out in the open. For example, "I can imagine doing Mrs so-and so" "I am going to flirt with her online, and maybe exchange some pics" "I am not going to set up a date with them unless and until we talk it over." Now, each of those may need to be negotiated. But by being specific (not necessarily explicit, but specific) you get the conversation out in the open. It's important that these conversations have both you and your partner's undivided attention. It also is important that you decide in advance the framework for negotiations, example veto power.

The bench at the foot of the bed has all sorts of uses--including donning legwear and footwear!

We probably have 3 different modes of play depending upon the venue: 1. At a club: its often fairly quick and intense. This is especially true if we're in a group setting where we can have several partners in a short time, 20 minutes to an hour. Although there have been a few occasions at Trapeze when we've gone to the back at about 11:00 and next thing we knew it was 1:00 am. Mrs Doc calls that "bacon time". Those of you unfamiliar with Trapeze, they serve an excellent late (or early) breakfast and we know that if we make it to bacon time it's been a VERY good night. 2. At a house party: There is more of a build-up, sexy clothing, chatting and feeling up friends, ice breaker games, etc. We play at parties with people we know or friends of people we know so we often have multiple partners or end up in a big puppy pile taking generally around 2 to 2.5 hrs on average. 3. At home(ours or another couples): These occasions are more protracted. There is always a lot of foreplay, sometimes together, sometimes separate rooms. Our goal is for the four of us to cum as many times as possible, admittedly way easier for the two women than for most guys who are on the upper edge of the age curve. Sometimes with hydration or snack breaks, or a dip in the pool or spa before round 2, generally 2-3 hours. Of course, much of the above is directed related to Mrs Doc. She's multi-orgasmic but when she's done, she's DONE and therefore so am I. The attached picture is from a pre Wuhan party. Mrs Doc is on the right. There were 4 other wives that weren't in the picture. THAT was a 3 hour play party!!

That's sort of the way it started with us. I'm a pretty horny guy, but women are capable of having many more orgasms than men and don't need something physically demanding like an erection to do it. So I was glad for her to get the extra she needed (maybe not "needed," but extra sex she certainly could handle while still giving me all that I could do.) And it wasn't just quantity, it was the variety she enjoyed as well, us doing MFMs and her starting serious girl-on-girl play. BUT, now we do couples' swaps for two reasons: she wants me to have fun too and more selfishly, she likes the buzz of knowing and seeing me fucking other women. (Watching your spouse getting laid is not just a guy thing.)