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We have stayed safe. Of course, we are older, and that weighs on our risk-tolerance. It's interesting though. Mr. FL woke up around 0530 this morning, put on a robe, walked across the hall and started in on the day's "electron work". About 90 minutes later, Mrs. FL came over to the office (still quite naked) , sat in Mr. FL's lap, and made it clear that coffee would be delayed an hour. Or, as she put it, "show up naked, bring coffee--and the coffee can wait". WFH is not all bad.

Something strange and can I say uncomfortable occurred a few weekends ago. We are not very involved on a regular basis in swinging. I like to say we enjoy swapping and have been to a very limited number of full swing parties. Our regular swap partners live far enough away that it is real special occasion when we visit them or they visit us. I am still not totally into girl play and as we say I am at last open to some play. We were invited to visit our friends, they told us we would be just the four of us one night and asked it was fine with us to have two other couples the next night. I hesitantly agreed. I do enjoy our friends and their house parties we attended had fun people. It does bring out a side of me I repress. Night one was everything I looked forward to. We did some play together and then swapped for the night. Next day two couples joined. The evening was a normal night of meeting new people. Knowing more was going to happen it was great that we all melded. The new couples gave a vibe of knowing themselves very well. It turned out the husband of one couple and the wife of the other couple were brother and sister. I didn’t believe them at first even when I saw a resemblance. I know I must have looked shock. They made many jokes about their relationship. Their spouses said they both knew from the very beginning and has made for interesting family get togethers. To them it was funny and made jokes about rural trash and everyone does it where they are from. I knew they were pulling my leg. I thought incest was not a real thing up to then.

1) Don’t be lecherous. 2) There are a zillion single guys out there. Make yourself stand out from the crowd in your profile. Have a complete and well thought-out profile, not just one-sentence answers to the essay questions. Don't get to into the sex acts themselves, tell what you have to bring to the table beside a great tongue and a huge cock. Virtually every profile goes on and on about how they love to give and receive oral. Not original. Be different. Keep it PG-rated and upscale. Also, write your profile in a word processing program and grammar and spell check it, then cut and paste. A quickly written, misspelled, profile with poor grammar says allot about your commitment to the whole deal. Quickly written profiles look like some guy threw it up on Wednesday night because he came across the site while looking at porn, he was über-horny and was hoping to find a couple to get with by Friday. 3) Some are turned-on by cock size and cock shots. Most couples are not. Don't list the size of your dick in your profile. Put a G or PG photo in your profile, head and full body. If a couple is really into the size thing they'll ask you. Otherwise assume that whatever your cock size is, is just fine if they like everything else about you. I think this is a common misconception for single guys wanting to get into the swinging world. They think all that counts is their dick, and couples must be looking for a bigger one then hubby has. Sometimes true, mostly not. Browse some couple profiles and only infrequently will you find the size of the husband's cock listed. Take this as your cue. In most cases its not the cock, it’s the person it’s attached to we’re interested in. 4) Be a paid member of a site. Free members go back the über-horny guy trying to get laid by the weekend. The way we see it, if you are willing to drop the cash to be a paid member, on the remote chance you'll get lucky, you are more serious about pursuing the lifestyle and thus have a better chance with us. 5) Don't mass email a bunch of couples. Yes, we know each other and we compare notes. Before we answer an email from a single male we check with some friends and see if they got an email from him too. If they did, "Sorry, not interested” is the reply. It shows that we weren't special and all the crap about the Mrs. being sexy and hot was just a line of hooky spewed by a horny guy at 1:00 AM. 6) Speaking of that, I would rather see an email from a single guy saying something like "you are an attractive couple and I'd like to get to know you" rather than "she is so hot, I'd like to get with you guys." When I see that I think to myself, “Thanks, I think my wife is hot, too, but I'm not her pimp. I’m as much a part of this as she is. You are not “getting” with my wife, you are “getting” with us.” Once again, “Sorry, no thanks”. 7) Be respectful. It amazes me the stuff a guy will say to us (meaning Mrs. WS) because we are swingers. Stuff he’d never say to a single girl he was trying to pick-up because he’d get shot down if he did. So why does he think it will work with my wife? Yes, we’re in this for sexual fun, but she is my wife, I am her husband. Treat her, and I, with the respect we and our relationship deserve and you might just have the time of your life. 8) Understand your role in the big scheme of things. As much as your fantasy is to get kinky with a couple, their fantasy is a threesome with another male. You are helping them fulfill their fantasies, and in turn they’ll help you fulfill yours. 9) Find the swinger parties in your area and attend them. Not just the naked parties, but meet and greets where nothing is going on but talking. This is one of the best ways to get in. Just be charming and not pushy. We know you want to get laid and we can help you with that if we like you. 10) If you happen to hit it off with a couple, offer to pay at least ½ of the hotel room. It’s always appreciated. Some more rules... Don't sit at the bar all night and not approach a couple and expect to swing with them later in the evening Do approach a couple and introduce yourself early. A sincere compliment to the female goes a long way. (You may get shot down but nothing ventured nothing gained). Don't expect too much on your first meeting with a couple. We meet a single guy who made a sincere compliment to my wife. We wouldn't consider sharing a room on that first meeting but after a second meeting who knows. Do find common interest with the couple. no matter how much of a stud you are people find other people who have similar interest fun to be with. Do be honest and frank (not crude) about what your looking for sexually. We're there for a reason an so are you; were not expecting a choir boy at a swingers club. Just because I smile and say hello, does NOT mean "take me, take me, take me! I want your hot love muscle right now!" When I say "No, thank you" in front of my husband, DO NOT assume I am then going to jump you and f#*k your brains out the minute hubby leaves the general vicinity! NO MEANS NO!!!! On a date, at a dance club, at the grocery store, at a party, OR in a swinger's club! Just because I may occasionally play with someone besides my husband SURE AS HELL does not mean I WANT TO PLAY WITH YOU! My body is MINE! DO NOT touch it unless I tell you it's okay to. If, after both my husband and I getting to know you, we decide to include you in OUR sexual play activities, REALIZE this is an extremely RARE PRIVILEGE! And treat it as such! Show us BOTH respect! If we DO decide to play with you, and you do not treat it as the privilege it is, but instead talk about it to everyone else you know, TRUST ME, we will be your LAST swinging partners. No one likes guys who kiss & tell! If, on the other hand, we decide to play with you, and you are every bit as mature and respectful as we hope, and we all have a wonderful time, you can probably look forward to many more good times ahead! Don't think because I have played with you before that you have the right to play with me every time we see each other. Don't flatter yourself. You may not have been that good. Just because I talk to you or dance with you doesn't give you the right to fondle me or touch me or kiss me. Ask first. Be a gentleman. If I invite you to play with me either alone or with myself and my partner, do not think you will be running the show. We play on my terms, by my rules; or we don't play. Use condoms all the time! Or we don't play, no matter how cute or sexy you are! Do not approach only my wife, we are a couple, and since I have final say on who I share her with, it's best to approach me first. Do not tell my wife that you can give her something she has never had before...it can't be done. Do not be possessive with my wife...don't touch, kiss, or fondle her unless she says it's okay to do so. Don't be pushy, we will let you know if we are interested in inviting you to play with us. (Begging is so unattractive, don't you think). Remember she is MY WIFE, not a single female and we are a couple, show respect and be a gentleman. The single male should be polite. - Be able to engage in small-talk with your "date(s)". If it's a couple, the small-talk should include the male as well as the female and her breasts. You have to impress two people in that case. Hold the door open for them if you enter someplace at the same time. If you're sitting down when you meet them, stand up and introduce yourself with a firm handshake. Don't stare lasciviously at the female (and/or male) upon first meeting. You can be flirty, but don't be crude. Take the rules your mother taught you -- or should've taught you -- and apply them very generously. The single male should be clean. - Shower before a potential meeting. Use deodorant. Smell good but not overpowering. Make sure the nose and ear-hairs -- and other areas if necessary or desired -- are trimmed. Have the hair washed and clean and in an attractive style for you. If you're bald and/or balding, make sure things look good in that area (although I've heard that some women prefer a day or two's growth if they get a dome-ride). The single male should dress appropriately for the occasion. - Gauge the situation and dress appropriately. If you're invited to a swing biker rally or a swinger nudist resort, then dress down or not at all. If you go to a club -- outside of theme nights -- dress to the high-end of the local standard. If you look better than the local competition, then that's a plus. If there's a theme night, it's best to at least meet the theme halfway...it shows that you're a good sport. Women focus on shoes...unless you're in costume and it requires something different, make sure your shoes are at least in presentable condition, if not polished to a high gloss. The single male should live up to his promises. - If you commit to meeting the swinging couple or single female, then make sure you are there on time. If you have promised the amazing tongue or the long-lasting boner and/or the big cock and/or the special technique, then you better come through with any or all of those. You might get a second-chance with some folks, but word gets around... I'm a single male, how can I get involved in the lifestyle? With Luck. As a single male, if you do manage to get involved in the lifestyle then it is a privilege and requires the utmost in discretion. There are couples out there who are looking for single males, those are the ads you should answer. Don't answer ads that aren't looking for single males. If you are good-looking, clean, honest & discrete you will have the best chance. Something else that will help you is if you can get a girlfriend that is willing to swing with you, then you would be a couple. Many couples look at it as "if he can't even get a girlfriend, why would we want him?" There are couples out there that are looking for single men. Guys that are open and honest and not just out looking for an easy lay will have the best chance at being accepted by these couples. I suggest that if you really want to get involved in the lifestyle you try contacting couples in your area that are seeking single men, and let them know that you are interested. There are many tips throughout the Swingers Board to help you in how to respond to an ad as well as in placing your own. However you will probably have a much better chance by responding to other people's ads. There are many sites out there with swingers personals and you should check out the various ones as different people place ads on different ones. You can find a list of many of them on the Swingers Board links page. You should also check the club listings for swinger clubs in your area that accept single males. Please do not consider trying to get into the swinging lifestyle if you think this will be an easy way for you to get laid. That is not what this is about. This is about couples enjoying their sexual fantasies with other people that can not be acted out with just the two of them. Since there are many couples that desire MFM 3-somes or where the husband enjoys seeing his wife with another male there is a place for single males in this lifestyle, as long as the single male in question realizes what it is.

Anyone here had any experiences in your swinging relationships with a shemale/transsexual? When I was living in SF Bay, I was single at the time and dated a few she-males. I was infatuated with a hot girl that had a cock. I have never tried to add that into my current relationship, but since we have done lots of MFM, I figured I would bring it up to the wife and see how she feels. I have been with 3 TS, and each experience was amazing. Anyone else care to share?

Have you every meet someone that you knew at a swingers party/club, and you had no idea that they were into that. When I first started going to my local swinger club, i met an old teacher I used to have. She was there with her husband. It was quite surprising to see her there. Had no idea she was into those kinds of thing. They were fun to be with. A few years later after I got married to my husband, and we went to a club, he met an old friend with his that he used to play hockey with , when he was young. He was pretty surprising to see him there as well.

I just discussed this Mrs Idaho and we are both kinda uncomfortable with playing on cam TBH we have only zoom'ed with family and only since the earth stopped turning. I guess we are not of the digital generation. We would video chat with couples we knew and even flirt. But like watch or be watched.....not really comfortable with that. Which is unbelievably stupid because we LIKE doing that in person ?.

I "played" using a cam at the specific request of a female acquaintance. I inadvertently shot cum onto the keyboard and disabled it. Never again did a Web cam.

A long time ago in a galaxy far, far away.... this question was settled. I hate to answer a question with a question BUT, are there any women who might be considered swingers? Allow me to pose another question. Why are Swingersboard members repeatedly referring to "unicorns" with an implied context of "swinger woman"?

hahahahahah!

They were probably European royalty. Nothing unusual for them.

Okay, this is probably going to get some comments. Incest is wrong for several reasons: If one person 'controls' another. If it's done at a young age. If there is any chance of pregnancy (and thus defects). But . . . when you are adults and there is no chance of pregnancy, is it really wrong for a brother and sister to have sex? There's a part of me that says, 'not really.'

We first started two years ago with friends. We were surprised who else we knew that played too. Surprised but never shocked. My wife used to worry about bumping into people she knew in business. I joked she should invite this one hot woman she worked with to a party. I never worried because if I met someone I knew, they were doing the same thing. My whole outlook on this life has surly evolved this past year. At a recent house party, two couples came after some fun started. My wife came running to me. She scared the crap out of me. I thought someone did something to her that she didn’t like. She was in panicky excitement. She then pointed out a couple. It was my brother’s sister-in-law. My sister in laws sister. She was going into a room where everyone left their clothes. I went into denial. Couldn’t be her. It was! I couldn’t ignore her. I know she was shocked to say the least when she saw us. I had to start some small talk. Both of us buck naked. Who was more red? We got past the nobody knows, my brother or her sister. She looked at my wife for approval and then grabbed me. Hey, we’re not family.

This thread makes me look at anyone in a 'dog collar' in a new light.

There was a church in our area that had a swinging scandal several years ago: seems that the pastor and several other members were using the baptismal (actually a hot tub) for 'extra curricular' activities. Didn't hear about the church until it was in the paper and thought that there was finally a church I could really get into only it was now out of business...

Wow! With the preacher and his wife! I need to find a church like yours! The people at my church are such prudes!

Ran into one of my kids music teachers when I swung with my previous husband. Both of us said no way in hell would we go there but a few months after we swung with him and his gf. Made parent teacher interviews rather awkward after!

Two times. Once in 72 when we encountered a young junior officer from my husband's squadron. Guess since I was fucking him and my hubby was fucking his wife, we either blurred or skipped over the fraternization regulations. Never bothered the guys as they were professional military. The other time was when we encountered hubby's civilian boss and his then fiancée. They wedded and we have been more than fuck friends since 1979. We consider them like family.

Two members of our shul; we were surprised to see them but they were not surprised to see us having spotted us already at a swingers' Web site.