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I agree that any path to finding what you are looking for is probably going to go through SLS or one of the other online sites like swingtowns or SDC. Yes, the sites do come with a lot of hassle with having to sift through the fakes and spam, but they do work, you just have to be willing to put some/alot patience and effort into it before it starts to pay off. Another thing to keep in mind, and there is absolutely nothing wrong with having your own rules and boundaries, but the further you get away from what the majority of other users on a site are looking for, then the smaller the ocean you are fishing in so it's going to take even more patience and effort. Good idea on the club with the door partially open too. The whole club scene is sort of still up in the air now depending on where you are, but once things get back to normal, that might be something to give strong consideration.

Certainly some people post their fantasies that are hard to believe. But I also remind myself that not so long ago I wouldn't believe that anyone would engage in the relatively mild and limited swinging that we do now.

I no longer have my virginity, but I still have the box that it came in.

That's the thing. For some people, it's disturbing, and for others, it's mandatory. That's OK. I've been with women who ask for that, and got to act as a bull for one in February. Mrs. E doesn't go in for anything painful, and it's not fun for me if it's not fun for her, so no problem. Then you've got somebody needing to play out some fantasy so badly that he's making up stories for strangers about the "tragedy" where his wife got impregnated during a swinging-related motel rape (this has turned up on here more than once). You can read between the lines that this story is not actually a tragedy to him, but that it would be to his wife/marriage. We all mismatch a little, but it's just depressing to think two people are so disconnected that he's that desperate for an outlet, while she would be crushed if she knew what he really thinks. That's just my take on it, anyway.

Sometimes I write fairly specific details here for fun, because I enjoy writing and also because I hope other people enjoy reading. Talking about sex and sharing sex is enjoyable to me and this is a good place to do it, but if I wanted to write fiction, there's a stories tab for that. I'm always very interested in talking about real experiences and peoples' interpretations of them. Then I do see people who show up with what are often clearly sadomasochistic fantasies about their wife. Like clockwork, you can hit Ctrl+F and find the word 'black' 12 times, and their reaction to their wife being traumatized never makes sense. I find those obvious fictions troubling on multiple levels. I also have seen a couple of posters who seem to be "toppers", IE, "oh yeah? 12 dicks is nothing, let me tell you how many dicks..."

Part of the reason we like "watch" is because I/wife don't feel like getting ready to get dressed up and go out. :-) If we're awake (earlybirds), we log on and have fun.

Do you mean your an exhibitionist? If so you can ask someone to film and take pictures. Could be a friend or you can put an ad out. Or you can go to a club.

The elusive four way match. I think you have to move on. Someone told us that the odds that four people can all like each other are 24-1. I don’t know the math, but it sounds right to me.

We went to a club once and opened the door putting the chain on it. We had a nice crowd watching. It was very hot. Just her and I doing with others watching. You could try this.

We have the same interest as you, voyeurs and exhibitionism. We've had good luck putting our profile on SLS.com with our interest being "Watch." Our profile name on SLS is "luvtravel" if you want to contact us for more information.

I reacted to that because it is something I like to do. A lot. Both ways, feeding the woman being taken doggy my pussy, or having a guy screw me doggy and being fed some pussy to take care of. Either way.

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Am I the only one who like my hair to get messy?

My absolute favorite of all time — because anybody who’s ever driven a car has seen it — is, “ Roadkill Squirrel Remembered As Frantic, Indecisive”.

Let's keep this in prospective. This is a report by "The Onion".