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My first wife was a virgin. I payed dearly.

I made my first post not quite a year ago while going thru divorce. That got final and after dating a few ladies, one captivated me. She was monogamous and that was totally fine with me. She's amazing. One of the times I picked her up for a date at her house, I laughed that she had blue flowerpots, which is a mythical "sign of swingers" in my community. I made a joke about how she must be a swinger. Well, that led to months and months of communication and discussion and reading and discussion and podcasts and more discussion until finally action was taken. We put up a profile on a site and began conversations with others. Once our state allowed restaurants to partially open, we "covid screened" another couple who had been careful in lockdown, met them for dinner, and it was on! Since then, we've had several encounters with other couples who have also been working from home and avoiding crowds. One couple took our temps at the front door as part of their protocol. We seem to be following a familiar pattern. I the male introduce the topic, we enter the LS world together with her nervous about everything, then she enjoys it a lot. And so we're in. Now we're in the process of moving in together permanently, and we will be marrying not too long after. After 10 months of knowing each other, sheltering in place together since March and working thru an entrance into the LS, we have never had a single cross word between us. We could not be happier! We look forward to learning and growing further and have enjoyed the wisdom shown on this board.

There has been plenty of discussions about whether couples allow kissing of other people while having sex (which we have no problem with), and about kissing your own spouse while he or she is having sex with other people (which we find loving and intimate). Recently toward the end of playing with two other regular couples, the situation developed where I was fucking my own wife missionary and she was sucking another guy, trying to get him up. It wasn't successful, so he started kissing her deeply and massaging her breasts. I've done the reverse with my wife many times, but this was a new thrill, watching them be intimate while I was just the workhorse trying to get her off. When she did come she pulled and hugged him hard. Anyone else try this?

The good news is that prudent swingers are taking a Covid break. The bad news is that your fiancé is out of control and will not adhere to your limits. This issue will recur. Do you want to continue swinging? It sounds like you are going along to get along. Your fiancé seems consumed with swinging and swinging on his terms. It doesn’t appear that he will comply with your limits. You have some decisions to make. Give him a hall pass and let him do whatever he wants or you can find a new partner who can work withIn your limits if you want to swing. Just my take. I’m no Dear Abby, but I am married for 35 years.

I have always had a preference for women with small breasts.

I enjoyed, and I believe my wife did too, doing her doggy while she gave our friend oral one time. But I think the most fun was one time she was being attended to in the missionary position and her partner wasn't kissing her. In fact, he was so intent on his pleasure that his face wasn't close to hers at all. I know my wife likes to be kissed during intercourse so I joined them and my wife and I had a long, passionate, kiss while he continued. I think it worked well for all three of us. He may not have even knows that we were kissing and he enjoyed a very nice ejaculation. My wife must have liked his movements because I could feel her thrusting back up at him and her kisses became more passionate as she orgasmed. And, for me? It was hot. When I'm having intercourse with her and we're kissing, I'm divided on which pleasure to concentrate on. It's like oral, I don't really like 69 because I have to switch between enjoying the feel of her mouth on me and the pleasure of her taste and feel on my mouth. So, that kiss really let me know what kissing her is like when she's in her throes of passion.

The same can be said from a male perspective too. I also have the most intense orgasm when I'm doing a DP with a sexy couple and knowing that we give the woman ultimate pleasure are a fantastic feeling that really turns me on.

Sex with a virgin male, eh? And it is supposed to be worth money... Well - we can't say anything that hasn't already been said... But - with a dozen mature, experienced single guys to pick from on any given club night - I am not sure that paying for sex with any male would be necessary... Paying for it from a virgin would be like hiring kid with his learner's permit to chauffer you around town while you shopped... Even worse if your limo has a clutch... Start... Die... Jump forward... Sputter... "Don't worry, ma'am, I can find the gear." Grind... Tire squeal... Die... The only upside I can see is that the inexperienced kid would probably have no problem driving around town all day (in his sloppy, gear-grinding way) while an experienced chauffer would eventually tell you that you only paid for two hours and he'll be damned if he's driving a second over that... "If you aren't where you want to go, lady, you can get the fuck out and walk." No - all kidding aside - I think sex is a beautiful thing and a person's first time should be special. Awkward though it may well be, it shouldn't be something that was paid for. It should be wrapped in all the typical adolescent delusions that true love can be found at sixteen and that car seats are the perfect fit for romance. I would honestly hope that the first time for everyone would be a memory that they cherish - not a check that they'd spend on something by Justin Timberlake...