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Hall Pass or whatever you want to call it, separate room/separate building, has a great advantage: one-on-one alone sex with someone is a far different experience than MFM, FFM, MFMF couples swaps or whatever. I started to explain what I mean, but I deleted it because you know what I mean.

Assuming your a woman, I’ll give you as many orgasms as you like. I really get off when she gets an orgasm.

The whole exclamation issue ended for us when two things happened. First the last of the kids moved out. Second while discussing the new noise level we started to talk about why anyone hearing it was an issue. We discovered that "being discovered" somehow tied into a deep seated piece of trash learned early on that sex was somehow dirty and embarrassing. Neither of us had ever thought about it that way consciously. We were manifesting things picked up from the time when we were just out of diapers and on. Learned just from observing. Little things like the level of PDA's among our parents, mostly chaste kisses when they thought no one was looking. Conversations "not fit for mixed company". And other things that inferred a lack of comfort about expressions of this sort in any place that we could witness. We knew logically that the love and the sex was there. Both sets of marriages produced families that were large enough and marriages that lasted until death. At any rate we talked, and talked and little by little my wife started to be more vocal yet. Finally she just let loose and regardless of who might hear. She just lets whatever comes from her mouth come out. It is a joy to behold and hear. It is especially fun when we are in separate rooms. I have had more that one lady ask me "What is THAT?" The answer is always "It just means your husband was up to the task." From that experience I offer this. Do not over think your responses. Just let them out. If there is anything inhibiting you find it and vanquish it. You and he will probably enjoy it more if the sounds progress from your nerves and body chemistry directly to your lungs and vocal chords without passing through your frontal lobes on the way.

This has been our experience too. Like many things in swinging, the more comfortable people get with each other, the more doors start to open.

This is a longer answer than what you might want, but the rationale matters. What happens inside a marriage and how two people grow within the marital bond is their choice: there are as many choices as there are marriages (no two are alike). Remarks such as the one your "vanilla guy friend" made come from one of three places: envy, curiosity, or disapproval. You are not obligated to respond. It is your marriage, not theirs. But if we were to respond, we would think to ourselves that "vanilla guy friend" cannot deal with the notion of vulnerability-his, or that of his marriage. He sees monogamy as a fence to 'contain' what is 'his'. Either he wishes that he could be comfortable with your acceptance of vulnerability, he is curious about how it feels to be vulnerable, or he disapproves of 'a guy' (or for that matter, anyone) exposing themselves or their marriage to perceived risk. Place that in context of what really goes on. He has a fantasy life, his wife has a fantasy life, likely unshared--and that makes them both vulnerable. Our response -- if we chose to give one--would be along the following lines. "One of our core values is honesty with each other. Part of that has always been sharing our fantasies. Along with those fantasies, we set intentions, and boundaries. So doing, we create a choice to act on those fantasies--or not. It keeps us honest, and our marriage is stronger for it." Where he's having trouble, most likely, is seeing the concept of monogamy through a different lens. Is it an emblem of the marriage? A fence to contain the marriage? A fence to protect the marriage? An expression of "property" rights? "Long-long" couples---long married and long in the LS---view the marital bond quite differently than most others, and yet that view of fierce loyalty, of 'team together', and of genuine "'til death do us part" is remarkable in its authenticity.

"Yes I do. And she lets me have sex with other women!"

You are right and I am sorry.

Mrs Doc swallows me always if I cum during oral. She does with others too but not always. In our swinging experiences, oral for her is often just foreplay and she rather make sure a dick is good and hard and then ride it for her pleasure (and his) rather than just sucking him off. Part of the fun of being married to her tho is that I don't EVER know what she's gonna do sexually. Just before the virus outbreak, we were going to dinner (only dinner was the plan) with one of our swinger couples. When we got to their house for a before dinner cocktail, the other wife said to my wife, "We have a little time before our reservations. Lets give the boys a thrill". Mrs Doc got a sexy glint in her eye and said, "Ok, what do you have in mind"? The other wife led as to the bedroom and told both guys to drop their pants and lay on the bed. She started to work my cock and I saw Mrs Doc starting in on our friend. My wife took her boobs out (easy access top/no bra) and started to rub along he's thighs while she licked his cock. The other wife was bending over me and sucking while standing next to the bed, after a bit she move my hand between her legs where I discovered no panties and a very wet pussy. So, Im fingering a lovely and sexy woman while watching my topless wife blowing our friend. Mrs Doc is very skilled and in no time our friend warned her he was about to cum. When she didn't pull back I knew this would be one of THOSE times. She slid down his cock as he started to cum and held it there until he was done and then she swallowed. Needless to say, watching that whole scene unfold next to me set me off too. And yes, the other wife swallows too. Both women headed towards the bathroom to brush. As they walked away the other wife said over her shoulder, "pants up guys, we don't want to be late"!! As we sat by the pool yesterday afternoon, we decided that we miss our swinger friends way more than our vanilla friends during these times!

I prefer to cum right out the end of my penis. Where it lands nobody knows.