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You can watch your wife have sex with another man and have somebody take pictures of the action unless your name is Jerry Falwell, Jr. I will add, you can watch your wife have sex with another man and have somebody take pictures of the action unless your name is ANYBODY WHO WILL LOSE THEIR JOB OR HARM OTHERS IF THEIR ACTIVITY BECOMES PUBLIC KNOWLEDGE.

While this is news, it is not particularly positive news. Re: Jerry Falwell, Jr and his family, for example here: https://www.reuters.com/investigates/special-report/usa-falwell-relationship/ Here are the first two paragraphs of the report: WASHINGTON – In a claim likely to intensify the controversy surrounding one of the most influential figures in the American Christian conservative movement, a business partner of Jerry Falwell Jr has come forward to say he had a years-long sexual relationship involving Falwell’s wife and the evangelical leader. Giancarlo Granda says he was 20 when he met Jerry and Becki Falwell while working as a pool attendant at the Fontainebleau Miami Beach hotel in March 2012. Starting that month and continuing into 2018, Granda told Reuters that the relationship involved him having sex with Becki Falwell while Jerry Falwell looked on. Ignoring the political aspects of the timing of all of this, there are some takeaways. 1. Political leanings are irrelevant to biological drives, sexual fantasies, and the behaviors that follow. 2. The problems arise from the evident hypocrisies: preaching 'family values' (however defined) while practicing something beyond a standard of marital monogamous heterosexuality. 3. Institutions and groups that perpetuate such hypocrisies typically respond the same way, namely by denouncement and expulsion of the person(s) who have been "found out" and restatement of the institutional/group value. 4. There is a business dispute including accusations of extortion folded into all of this. It is absurd to imagine that leaders are somehow immune from fantasies and the intentions to act on those fantasies. What would be more helpful are commonsense boundaries between public and private lives as well as reasonable display of integrity. Even then, humans find ways to accommodate 'sinful behaviors' while embracing integrity: Rick: How can you close me up? On what grounds? Captain Renault: I'm shocked, shocked to find that gambling is going on in here! [a croupier hands Renault a pile of money] Croupier: Your winnings, sir. Captain Renault: [sotto voce] Oh, thank you very much. [aloud] Captain Renault: Everybody out at once! Neither the evangelical community nor Mr. Falwell's employers should be "shocked, shocked" to find that (even) their annppointed spokesperson enjoyed variety in sexual expression, apparently with the knowledge and consent and participation of his wife of 34 years. Adopting the usual denouncement-and-expulsion-upon-being-found-out strategy ("Do as we say, not what he did!--He was weak and you must be strong!") merely reinforces the idealized pretense of purity. The reality is that tensions between sexual suppression and sexual expression are as old as civilization. While individuals and institutions can impose rules on themselves and set expectations for others, a bit of realism would be welcome: the aforementioned tensions cannot be "wished away". At the same time, business dealings with playmates might be predicted to end badly, as appears to have happened in this case. The Reuters article concludes: In a statement released Friday, before news of the relationship with Granda became public, Liberty University said its “decision whether or not to retain Falwell as president has not yet been made.” Its board of trustees, the statement read, “requested prayer and patience as they seek the Lord’s will and also seek additional information for assessment.”

OOOOOOhhhhhhh, the thought of playing Jerry Falwell even in role-play gives me the creeps . . .

Schadenfreude, perhaps, in the saddest sense of that word. It would be ideal if the couple came clean, stated that their private lives should not have crossed over into their public presence, and went on their way. Best to forgive and move on. I agree with PeterJ, what's most galling is the (Mrs. FL's words) "Holier-than-thou" positions that will be taken. (see also John 8:7 ). Those who preach strictest adherence to social norms in public seem to be the greatest violators in private. And since those in the most visible roles are under greatest scrutiny, there is some inevitability that the truth will emerge. Let's agree that the vulnerable need and deserve protection from predators. Kids. The disabled. Those who cannot understand and therefore cannot consent. Those who withdraw consent. Otherwise, among consenting adults whose participation is truly voluntary and not coerced, what happens should be their choice. We'll see what messages are conveyed through words and through actions.

It doesn’t seem like the media is so shocked with the hot wife scenario. They are shocked that the president of a strict evangelical college was involved. I enjoyed the picture of Falwell with his wife’s assistant with their pants open. Guarantee he did her. More bricks to fall. I find it funny when these endeavors come out about holier than thou people.

Looks like Granda has the receipts. And one could infer this was what Michael Cohen was referring to when he said he had salacious photos of the Falwells. Two years ago when evidence surfaced of the odd connection of the Falwells to Granda I expected the relationship had a primary sexual component, either hotwife or he was actively with both. I agree, FL, that this is not good news for those of us whose lives do not conform to widespread societal norms. I don’t begrudge the Falwells their pursuit of their shared sexual interests, assuming no one was coerced. (Granda claims otherwise.) But I am appalled at Falwell’s rank hypocrisy, as I have been in the past when gay legislators voted for harsh anti-gay bills. One last observation. With the recent act of posting an inappropriate photo on social media Falwell seems to have been begging to be outed. If in the end he is permanently ousted from his position as the head of a ultra-conservative evangelical university and is then free to pursue his true inclinations, perhaps that’s a good thing for him.

My often confirmed opinion is that those that yell the loudest, try to shame others, scream from their 'moral high ground' about how others should act are the ones most often involved in the 'bad' behavior. Whenever you see some a$%hole trying to tell others what to do couched in a moral stance, THEY ARE DOING THAT EXACT THING. I couldn't care less about his actions, in fact good for him/them, assuming it was consensual. But f-you for telling others how to live. Live and let live is the only way. Hold your judgement of others, it's not your place.

Was it possible you were just horny the first time you met them and didn't see the flaws? (That's a joke, son, I say that's a joke.)

Two observations: - This isn't the end. People who follow Falwell and those of his ilk love a good redemption story and will forgive transgressors who have been redeemed. It justifies their hypocrisy when confronted with "you had yours, why can't I have mine?" Jim Bakker still has his followers. - The real fallout will be the tax and money laundering aspects of this. Inappropriate use of tax exempt money, unreported income, hiding sources of funds, wire and mail fraud...

Once my GF sees a flaccid penis the size doesn't really matter anymore at that point. She is not going to tell him his flaccid penis is to small and to leave. She is going to get it hard and finish what she started.

The Falwells are among the most vocal critics of the LBGTQ community. Why is Rev. Falwell’s out of the ordinary sexual preferences acceptable, but the preferences of the gay community are not valid? i accept people’s sexual interests as long as they are consensual with people of age and not hurtful physically or mentally.

Great idea for role play though

I don't trust the government either. That is why I don't take hydroxychloroquine, ingest disinfectants or have UV waves shot up my... I also will not get a hastily approved vaccine that will be waved through to help someone's election. I try to read medically accepted information that is the best that we have at the time with the understanding that it is a novel virus and information is subject to change.

Ah, you guys scooped me on this report. I agree with Fundamental Law. Nobody in the evangelical so-called community should be shocked.

As expected, we now have the "resign" plan. CNN reports: https://www.cnn.com/2020/08/25/us/jerry-falwell-jr-liberty-university-resignation/index.html The world would be an simpler place if there was widespread agreement that pleasurable and physically harmless contacts among consenting adults are seen as neither moral, nor immoral, nor amoral. They would be seen as simply ordinary parts of life, like eating and travelling. People choose what and with whom to dine, with whom and where to travel etc.

I wish I could Like Button this post 50 times!! I absolutely agree with you on all counts. I have the exact same opinion about those screaming the loudest about something, and have been proven correct on that over and over.

Thanks for starting this thread, you beat me to it. Mine was going to be from the angle of "asshole preacher's son gives swinging a black eye in the press" because to me, that's the worst part of this deal, we all will get lumped in with this raging hypocrite. When the first of the "pool boy" story started coming out in the last few years, I called it then, there was a sexual relationship there. I had a straight up MFM type thing in mind then, and sounding now like it was more of a hotwife/voyeur/cuck type thing, but details aside, I knew there was more to the story then and now have been proven to have been absolutely correct. I agree there are more stories to come too, not just sexual, but financial and legal. I could care less about what the Falwell's (or anyone else's) sex life is like; I only ask the same in return regarding mine. But, seeing how that is definitely not the case here, and Jerry and his type are very much "do as I say for you and not as I do for me" then I think this is absolutely hilarious...and so totally not shocking...you could write forever on the long list of these hypocritical assholes finding out what karma means. PeterJ makes an excellent observation about that Instagram photo on the yacht. The guy had to be tired of living this charade, albeit a very lucrative charade as dishonest ones often are. It still doesn't make me feel any pity or sympathy for Falwell, but you've got to think on some level, even if just sub-consciously, there was some mental "You know what, fuck this. I don't care how good the money is, I'm done with this silly little old gray-headed church lady act bullshit." To be as successful as he has been, he's can't be a total dumbass. He's media savvy and has to know you don't go posting pics to all of your evangelical Instragram followers of you, drink in hand, with a younger not your wife woman, and both of you with undone pants, and not expect to catch flack for that, said flack likely causing more digging into things you don't want dug into. Seriously, what thinking person would do that knowing this other axe was out there just waiting to drop? Hubris has led to many a downfall for the powerful, but this was playing Russian Roulette with one in each chamber.

This discussion reminds me why I got pretty good at eating pussy and ass.

Technically it was May-June. A FWB & I were trying to locate a bi male for a mmf threesome. We contacted six men & none met with us. Last actual was a combined birthday party of two women. Six men and three women spent a evening largely naked and indulging in assorted sex acts. More Kink than swinger my FWB & I did some sex on a upper level of the parking garage at her workplace back in April. Also i am on call as the secondary sex partner for a lady when her primary is unavailable. Which is more polyamory than swinger.

To be fair, I don't care. They had their marriage and their rules like everyone else. We don't advertise our bedroom play. It is private. I find no reason to castigate someone for what I do.

I wouldn't, but if my wife asked me to I just might. In the heat of the moment thing. On the other hand my wife loves to kiss other women, as well as suck on their nipples. I have been told she is very good at it. I even like it when she sucks on my nipples.

With some people, you can explain it to ‘em ... but you can’t understand it for ‘em! ?

Talk about people falling for conspiracies. The whole world, almost every country has conspired because they had a secret meeting to put forth an agenda. Countries that can’t get together on anything else all figured a way to kill the economy of the world. They all said you know too many people are swinging so let’s say there is a pandemic so men keep their dicks in their pants. Oh, and let’s make sure to close schools, there are too many smart people and we need to level the field. Didn’t we hear Covid is a hoax and will go away in the heat of summer, all the greatest minds agreed. If you want to play that is your choice. Don’t downplay the risks, don’t put forth a false narrative. People played during the HIV crisis, I was too young. HIV is still not eradicated, still no cure, but there are therapies to treat. Your body, your choice. Something makes me think this your thought too, but only for men.

I am a Freudian, there are no simple mistakes.

Particularly when it is someone other than the person who is stimulating your genitals in one way or another. It especially drives me wildly jealous when hubby is fucking me while kissing Lora.

I myself definitely prefer average! True to big hurts! the novelty wears off quickly

I've only done this a few times so far but don't plan on stopping. my first time was cleaning up a guy's cock after he came in my wife. It led to more sucking and feeling his cock soften and then harden in my mouth again after sucking him for a while was amazing. He didn't cum but went back to fucking my wife. the second time was a similar situation but I sucked him to completion. I agree with the earlier poster that the feel of his cum spurting into my mouth was intense. Haven't tried anal yet but it is on the menu and I just need to find the right situation. It will come at some point.

I began to become curious because my girlfriend commented on how much she enjoyed the feeling of dick in her mouth. I was totally straight and still am, but the curiosity to see what it did feel like became a desire to find out. I reasoned I had never thought about it before and now that I had, I was confident I was not gay but only sexually curious. I reasoned if a female loves it, why can't I ? It seemed "cleaner" than licking up all the juices that come out of a vagina. Being certain I was secure in my masculinity, I tried it. It was the most exciting thing I ever did since I masturbated to orgasm the first time when a pre-teen, or maybe fucked the woman across the street in my first experience. As you, I was worried I would like it as sex and want to do it again and again. Seems I have and never once did I not find it excitingly naughty. I see threads about guys who enjoy licking their cum filled wife's pussy from another man. Seen threads from guys who like to lick their wife's clit while she is being fucked. What the hell is the different than pitting one in your mouth? To a large, large number of guys.....try it, you'll like it! As for anal sex, no I have not had a penis. Some things even I am too reserved (or hung up) about. But I have never felt anything so physically pleasurable as a dildo up there, and even more intense pleasure every time it goes in even deeper only a half inch at a time. Wives, men,.... get one for each of you! After all, if you haven't experienced both of these, you are missing out on half the pleasure of sex. MAN...am I going to get blasted about this! I know it is SWINGERS BOARD, not about gays. This is NOT about gays. It is about SEX. Like swinging is only about SEX. It is just about enjoying the things that are taboo to talk about. Like swinging is to vanilla people. Get over it. WTF....if it feels good, DO IT!