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I am assuming you are a medical doctor, and I know what assuming can do. Physicians take oaths, Lawyers take oaths, Accountants take oaths. Even politicians take oaths and we know where that has taken us. People break oaths all the time, jeopardizing their livelihoods. I agree with your comment, doctors have heard it all. I am not unique. I am not afraid of what others might think. I am not afraid others might find out. Thinking back, I was afraid at being outed at a time in my life. I questioned my own sexuality. Therapy and speaking about fears has been refreshing. I was was afraid of being totally open to my innermost feelings. Therapy has allowed me to explain my feelings. I was afraid my therapist was a voyeur into my mind. She asked my thoughts during sexual acts. She brought out thoughts I wasn’t sure I had. By bringing up my pleasure factors it has brought even more pleasure to my future relationships. Talking about thoughts during sex is cathartic for me. Mike doesn’t agree with all I say. His trust in others is not solid. He says I am naive and too trusting. We don’t have a trust problem between us. He shares his feelings and what I feel is his deep thoughts. Questions my therapist asks, I ask of him. Me being a voyeur into his mind is very exciting, even more than watching physically. I was happy that he said he doesn’t think about sex with me while having sex with others. He was truthful. Wow I can’t believe I just opened up on a forum.

My wife and I have often kissed while one or both of us were copulating with someone else. A strange and exciting situation for me, however, was fucking my wife trying to get us both off while she passionately kissed another guy and he played with her breasts. I had the feeling that I was being used, that she was really into and thinking about the other guy. It was great.

She told her (female) doctor that we swing and by chance I was seeing the same doctor. The doctor was also very good looking. After I got used to it she gave me samples of Viagra and Cialis. She knew we went to HEDO. Advised my wife on what lube to use.

Tricia, first it is so very good that you are completely open to your feelings when alone. Yes, doctors are people. They are also professionals. They are bound to the oaths of the profession. Here are the last lines of the Hippocratic Oath, to which physicians swear as the enter the profession. Highlighting added. ...Into whatsoever houses I enter, I will enter to help the sick, and I will abstain from all intentional wrong-doing and harm, especially from abusing the bodies of man or woman, bond or free. And whatsoever I shall see or hear in the course of my profession, as well as outside my profession in my intercourse with men, if it be what should not be published abroad, I will never divulge, holding such things to be holy secrets. Now if I carry out this oath, and break it not, may I gain for ever reputation among all men for my life and for my art; but if I break it and forswear myself, may the opposite befall me. The concerns about being "found out" often have less to do with the healthcare providers than of oneself. There is a pervasive human fear of being unworthy--and worse of being found out to be unworthy-- of being "not good enough". That experience is universal, and to some extent underpins why swinging is a somewhat secretive alternative lifestyle. Swinging is about consenting adults at play. Yet if our behaviors and out preferences were found out, we would not only be judged but shamed. This is the consequence of not conforming to social norms. The dependence on external validation in order (for example) to earn a living gets convolved with the covenantal relationships of the healing professions and creates its own tension: public lives and private lives are always complementary and essentially never congruent. Yet those in the healing professions have to understand both because so much of healing involves reaching some sort of personal reconciliation. That reconciliation requires embrace of something that makes most (all?) of us uncomfortable--it requires embrace of vulnerability. The sociologist Brene' Brown is widely recognized for her research into vulnerability. As a start, it's a fun 20 minutes listening to her widely praised TED talk here: The talk is a decade old, and still worth a re-listen. Good luck.

I agree with both of these comments. I trust my doctor with my life and expect she is trustworthy. When I first told her about having others join us I asked her not to put it in her records. I think the government knows too much about my personal life without this being in the cloud. I don’t believe in conspiracies yet I do get ads on social media feeds after talking about buying things. Just being careful in case there is a breach of medical records, I don’t need my insurance rates or credit rating change because someone figured I am a risk. With no notes taken she has asked about precautions, acts, frequency and types of people in generalities. I understood when asked about the men and if any bi men are involved. She has read me the riot act about STD, STI, and HIV. I believe women have a closer relationship with female doctors, at least I do. I don’t think I could be as honest to a male doctor, which I know is foolish.

At my club in Orlando everyone gets introduced and has a chance to voice their desires before the clothes come off. There is almost always at least one lady who wants to fuck all the guys and gets to do quite a few over the next few hours.

We have. It really depends on the mental maturity of all four people.

I should have been drunk the second time. Sad to report I was sober both times. I don’t drink before sex for hopeful performance help.

I love making out with my wife during sex. My fantasy would be to be romantically making out with her while someone else is actively penetrating her while his wife is is sucking me.

He left it up to the reader to decide what exactly he is free from now, but he just came right out and said it. https://www.forbes.com/sites/jemimamcevoy/2020/08/25/jerry-falwell-jr-says-hes-free-at-last-after-resigning-as-liberty-university-president/#354205eb70a9 I also found the following particularly amusing/infuriating. Pretty sure there are some former students of his university that held much the same opinion after being shown the door too for a violation of one of the many many many silly rules there. More "rules for thee, not for me" hypocrisy.

Some people are self-destructive because they do not believe that they deserve their own success. As I alluded to above, I don’t think that this is a black eye for swinging. I think it is a black eye for supposedly religious people who preach puritanism and practice hedonism.

Mr. A and I both prefer no condoms in an ideal situation. I like the idea and feeling of a guy cumming inside me, and Mr. A likes the sight and smell of it and frequently likes to go in for sloppy seconds. When we started swinging (and before we knew of this Board), we required condoms for intercourse, but I didn't require condoms for blowjobs which seemed to be the norm for the couples we were playing with. In hindsight that was probably a bad idea. We had this condom discussion many times and we decided that we really prefer the feelings of going bareback, so what we did was to find those few couples we trust and go bareback. But at a club or with anyone new, we require condoms for everything. We try to have it both ways and so far it seems to work out.