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Don't judge us but we prefer to play bareback so cum from all men involved flows pretty freely and gets almost everywhere. It's a natural outcome of having sex and if it grosses you out at first it won't after a while and neither of us have any problem coming into contact with the stuff regardless of whose it is. We should point out that std testing is a prerequisite for us. That keeps our circle very small but also very safe.

That is the approach we have settled upon as well, a group of married couples who all play bareback. We have sworn a solemn oath not to play outside our group, even with condoms, unless you leave the group sexually, until again restricting yourself and several rounds of testing. As of yet, no one has left; there's plenty enough variety and activity within the group, so the need to and likelihood of cheating is low.

I prefer to be second, not because I like the other guy's semen, but because I like being excited while he's fucking her, whether it's my wife or some other woman. The excitement of watching my wife having sex with another man is way more intense before I've blown my load than afterwards. When they've finished, my wife is relaxing from an orgasm or two, is full of cum, and still wants me, makes me unbelievably hard. Going in and wallowing around in the slop is further arousing because all I can think of is how sexual my wife is. If I go first, after orgasming watching my wife having intercourse is interesting, but more of an intellectual event. I'm calm and temporarily depleted.

There just aren't any 'good' signs out there so we don't use any. We've said it before, once there is a secret sign, there will be those who are not part of the group who still know what that sign is, and they will let the world know what it is and who is showing it. Wait, the one thing that we always do with our swinger friends is take our clothes off...does that count?

Maybe I missed it but why is this guy still your "fiancé"? He is obviously doing whatever he wants, and his actions are quite shady. I don't understand why you'd stay around. You're too young to to hook your wagon to someone who doesn't care what you have to say.

Formatting, dude! Your post is very hard to read. TLDR; guy in his early 20's goes on vacation with his girlfriend, tells her he's been unfaithful and as a result she has a series of sexual encounters under his nose. They seem to argue quite a bit about it. My advice: You have a stormy relationship, full of drama. Is this really something you want to live with for the rest of your life?

...and here we're proud of hitting three in an hour. (To her credit, she bounced right back the next morning. I thought she might be taking a recovery day after that.)

The most I’ve ever done was 23 men over a 7 hour session but that was with condoms for vaginal sex.

30 to 50? Ouch!

I/we don't really have any fantasies left to do. A fantasy I'd love to do is a bareback gangbang with 30-50 men where they all cum inside my vagina, all athletic bodies and handsome looking. That will never happen!

Yes I will totally agree with above, we have tried it with my wife’s glass dildo and definitely I can feel the glass dildo inside her, just saying,actually it was very arousing

Move on. Yes he is a manipulator. He's already lied to you once, is attempting to separate you from your wife. He is also attempting to have unprotected sex with your wife. We have experiences like this as well with people on the internet, men and women. Move On, Move On, Move On. I would highly recommend you go no contact and have nothing more to do with him. Yes we have had similar experiences, swinging is about trust. If that trust gets violated initially it only gets worse. Same is true in life actually, but it get ramped up a bit in the swing scene where everything is 'blind'. It's odd but some people without any conscience or a second thought can will attempt to manipulate the world around them for their only needs wants and desires, regardless of others. I would say you havve found one of those tyoes. Good luck and have fun

I think that there are probably a lot of guys who are skeeved out by touching another dude's cum. Apparently they're not on this board, though. There's nothing wrong with feeling that way and knowing your boundaries, but your extreme reaction to it kind of leads me to think that Lionheart's suggestion is the way to go. You can mention before play that you want to be the first, and maybe everyone will be ok with that, but it may come off as kinda selfish, and since there are other men who probably feel that way, you two may just have to choose your own respective orifice to come in. Maybe do Rock Paper Scissors?

Which do you like less, cumming in a condom or touching another guys cum? Pick one and then cope with the consequences. Seems obvious to me.

Not if you were on a board focusing on a hobby where bleeding was very often the result of fun.

Frankly I don't see the problem. It's just liquid. We've had 3sums where the other guy's cum splashes on me and I'm okay with that.