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The problem with having sex with friends (or making friends into swingers) is that if things go bad (and because the other couple probably doesn't have the foundation and the time to talk about swinging, swinging limits, etc and they haven't really considered swinging before this, the odds are pretty good that things can go bad) then EVERYONE is most likely going to know about it...neighbors, friends, family, co-workers. Is it worth taking the chance. Even just ASKING your friends, no matter how much you THINK they are interested, may shock and disgust them. You really don't know until it happens. Ms. Gold with her former husband tried this. They started going with friends nude in the hot tub...then fooling around, then changing partners and fooling around. In the end, Ms. Gold and her former husband shouldn't have been swinging at all (they were thinking that swinging would save a bad marriage) and the other couple...well the husband fell in 'love' with Ms. Gold and was willing to leave his wife for her (she wasn't interested, but everyone knew that he wanted her over his wife). Friendship was destroyed, private lives became public knowledge, marriages ended, and everyone knew why. While it may SOUND easier to do, it really just isn't worth the risk. You are just better off finding another couple(s) that have already decided to try swinging and make them friends.

If done properly, sex among friends and acquaintances can bring them closer together.

Has anyone else tried their favorite club or casino in these current strange times? Julie and I (Rob) have spent the past four months not socializing or traveling at all. The construction management work has been going on and Julie closed both of her coffee/breakfast/lunch shops down. Her employees that stayed with her are working at the two drive thru places. She hired no summer student help this year. We spend our time at home working out, jogging and running, sunning tubing and playing with each other. We absolutely did not go out to eat, club, casino, visit friends and family or have friends and family visit us. We finally went to our favorite casino three hours away in the City that has reopened. We had a comp room reserved, made dinner reservations for the top floor View of the Market chophouse, etc. We stopped on the way and picked up fast food and ate a late lunch in a park. We were able to check in early at the casino high rise hotel. The hotel and casino requires mask use in public areas! More later.

I can't believe this is even a question in Swinging, where "the visual" is a huge part of the process. IMO, a facial is the ultimate sexy finish - but anywhere on a woman's beautiful body works well, as long as we can see it. Also, IMO, "inside" is too much, to me, like the process of making babies -- swinger sex is about sport and fun, not starting a family. - my .02¢ ?

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Our hottest Hotwifing or in our case "HotGFing" was on casino trips. Gangbangs, public sex, lots of crazy kinky sex stuff we did it all. I usually invite a bunch of my buddies and sometimes some of her friends to go with us and we have a fuckin blast. But we haven't gone back since the pandemic. My buddies keep asking me when we're going to go back but we're waiting until this pandemic passes. We can't wait.

It's weird how it's so variable. I've seen my GF make guys cum in a matter of seconds and others pound her holes for hours. She obviously prefers the latter.

That's about the minimum for me, provided I'm already excited and wet.

But it even goes beyond that, these are people who are having sex, watching each other have sex not with each other, at least at first. One would think that watching someone having sex with others, not you, would dampen the spark of love. These are people who see each other having sex with other people and think, "I really like him/her." In my mind such a situation puts sex in its proper perspective in an incipient romantic relationship. As a woman it would make me feel valued for all the reasons other than my body, and respect my autonomy. (That's the way I felt anyway, when hubby was monogamous while letting me keep my ex-fiancé as a sexual and romantic partner when we started down this road.)

But seriously, my gay friend excitedly asked me "did your balls touch?" when listening to my wife share the details of her most recent DP experience. I said, "I don't think so" and he seemed disappointed. ???

Move forward! You learn from every experience. Sometimes one of us has a good time, the other doesn’t. And vice versa. We are happy for each other. There are no guarantees. To hit the target, don’t aim at the target. Be more Zen and let things happen. If they don’t happen, don’t force it. Go home and do your wife.

A bit of trivia. What happens with foreskins that are removed? The cells are cultured to make things such as Dermagraft® to treat wounds that won't heal.

We have been pondering for some time and if this pandemic ever abates, our first time may be with close friends. We've been friends for almost 2 decades and live long-distance, but in the last few years have flirted a lot and at the beginning of the year we tested out the waters with some playful teasing and wandering hands at their house, just couldn't take it much farther since our kids and their kid were there. The plan was to take it further next time (without the kids around), but then the world caught on fire.. oy... but we still hope and tease.

I gotta say if someone vomited for ANY reason and I see/hear it I'm gonna puke too. And it all over for me.

A safe way to approach is to ask a non-committal question like "have you guys heard about swinging" or "what do you guys think about people who swing?" The reply might be anything in the range of "people who do that are destined to burn in Hell" to "we have sometimes wondered about that." Your line of questioning can go from there. If you perceive a positive view you can work around to "we are swingers, your know." You'll need to feel around for what happens next.

We're a younger couple and have no kids so maybe it's just easier for us to ask. Our feeling is if they are really our friends they won't be judgemental about it and most people haven't been.

We've played with our neighbor as a single woman for most of a year now. Her (now) ex-husband was a chronic cheater and eventually people sat her down and showed her the receipts. Before the pandemic, she was on all the dating sites and having a great time. We were careful to avoid her being seen coming and going at sketchy hours to avoid gossip, but there was no hiding what was going on at her house. One day, the nosy widow caddy-corner to her stops me while mowing her lawn and says, scandalously, "you know, there is a different car at her house every weekend". I did not point out that I knew she'd banged the ex-husband herself. Seems to me people who gossip a lot are often trying to preemptively damage others for fear they, themselves, will eventually be revealed.

Got a custom-built sofa and chair for the living room. Not specifically for swinging, at least pre-pandemic we weren't really doing that at home, but the foam is firm, the seats are 30" deep, and the sofa has one big cushion with throw pillows that you can remove to make it more like 36". It's long enough for people to lay down completely on or deep enough to pull their legs up and curl up. The pet/kid-proof stain resistance was a good idea, too.

I'm certain that people talk about me behind my back, or more likely used to talk about me. The novelty of a woman living (and presumably being intimate) with several other people has worn off. Plus now there are openly the gay guys, the butch Lesbians, the bisexuals, the girls who braggingly tell tales that grown men only used to say in hushed voices. In my own mind I sometimes wonder if I'm the prude; I have plenty of sex, but it's with the same three men and two women. I've only had full intercourse with five men in my life. Lots of teenagers, including girls, have had many more partners than that. At this point in my life I am proud of who I am, so there is nothing for me to endure.

Luckily, masks help we find while wearing revealing club clothing. In the chophouse lounge/waiting area, there was only one other couple. The bartender was working alone without a server. The manager was working as the host. The open kitchen had the chef with two helpers. All the staff were wearing masks. The dining area looking over the river at the city, had two waiters and two water/bus people. The entire dining room had two couples eating, we made three.... The only one who even seemed to notice Julie's dress was the manager who seated us and then it was because Julie unfolded a black dinner napkin and put it on the chair seat before sitting, he winked at her/us. We each ordered martinis. When we ordered dinner, we split a large filet and a wedge salad. Desert later was another martini. The 20th floor view of the city across the river at night was wonderful. We finished dinner, and rode the elevator back to the lobby level. Julie in her heels, short dress and mask walked ahead of me to the casino entrance. She was definitely over/under dressed and only the entry security man seemed to notice the dress. Once again most everyone in the casino had masks on and the employees definitely did. We walked about and watched and waited, but never did get a seat at a blackjack table. The craps and roulette tables were not open. There simply were no other couples. After sitting at a slot machine for over 1/2 hour, a blackjack table never opened, we don't play slots, etc. so we decided to leave, head to our room and call it a night. We are a really good party of two anyway. After all the dieting, working out, power sunning, etc. this summer, our casino trip was a let down. It definitely was not worth the time, money and effort. We probably will not be back to a casino until things are back to normal somewhat... We don't know how the restaurant and casino can stay open.

We moved into our 12th floor room, and by 3:30 PM were back to the casino, shorts and tees, sandals and masks. At least every other machine was out of service, gone or covered. Black jack tables were allowing only 3 players. Craps tables were closed. We walked around, waited and waited and finally gave up getting a seat to a black jack table. We headed back to our room... In the room, we got comfortably naked, fooled around in the Jacuzzi tube, took turns shaving each other everywhere!!!!! Worked up we had a great lovemaking session and promptly went to sleep. About 7ish we, were up, showered up again and got dressed for our 8:30 PM dinner reservations at the 20th floor Market Chophouse. Julie had brought a couple of dresses. I recommended the very short dress/top she wears with tights and layers, etc. only without tights, panties, etc. She tried it on and was extremely worried it was too short. We had seen no families or kids in the lobby, casino and public areas and were "just" going to the Chophouse. I convinced Julie the short dress and heels were fine. As we walked out our room door, Julie said she felt more undressed in the dress than she did nude at clothes optional resorts. You can check the dress photos in the gallery. We walked to the elevator and rode it up to 20 to the Chophouse.... Julie's dress basically was not covering her butt or anything else.

I'm sorry, but I've never given anyone other than my husband a blowjob. I have scar tissue lining my esophagus from accidentally drinking bleach when I was a toddler. I have to have my esophagus surgically stretched every five years. My gag reflex is like a detonation switch on a bomb. If I get gagged it automatically kills the mood. My husband,thank God, worked with me until I could go down on him without gagging. He also had to learn to hold back when he wants to thrust deeper than I can take. We've been married for 30 years. He says that I give him 100 dollar blowjobs. But that's because I love him, and I love pleasuring him. I not going to mess with success. Who could blame me? His cum is the only cum, I have ever swallowed.

I does make sense, of course... but because it makes sense anything that works for the relationship. Anyway, this has to do with my previous question. As for me, I don't expect her to have sex with someone while imposing some sort of limitation on her feeling about him or her, and the same way, I think I wouldn't be able to enjoy sex if I were unable to express the feelings triggered by the whole situation. In fact, I wouldn't define swinging, for us, as "recreational sex" and several couples here said it is for them, instead I prefer another way to put it, "a way to grow together" with my partner. This leads to another related thought. Did you see when an adult ask a kid to tell who love him/her the most, if his/her daddy or his/her mommy? Well, I believe that's one of the most cruel questions you ever can ask someone to answer, and certainly I love my wife too much as to ask her such a question as for her to compare her love for me with her love for someone else. In the other hand, I am not going to bargain: I am with her because of what I feel about her more than my perception on what she feels about me.