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  1. 2 points
    Two things: The first is that since the pictures were vanillish if a bit wild and intended for non LS friends to see, how did you friend make the leap to you being swingers? The second is , after all these years how did this finally play out? I ask this because there was a time when my wife was shocked by finding out that her best friend was a Lesbian. She was confused and heartbroken. She considered just ending the friendship. Fortunately she thought things through before saying anything. She decided that this friend had gone through some of my wifes transformative moments and my wife through hers ,and through that all they had held firm to their friendship. This lady hadn't changed anything about herself. All of her admirable traits were still there. My wife just had a bit more information. She decided that she needed to adjust her view point . She went from an uninformed person as far as same sex relationships into who she is now. They remain as they were, friends for longer than the forty years that we have been together. This friend is the only non LS person that my wife has felt free to share our LS choice with.
  2. 2 points
    Well for someone that feels its not there place to butt in I feel like she kinda bull in the China shopped it. So I had something like this pop up once, they say my picture on a swing site, to which I replied, curious, so do you visit swing town often? Are you a member there, you little minx you never told me you were into swinging! She did not have an answer just denied being a swinger. I then asked her if she had known before seeing the picture, to which she said no. I proceeded to say that is because you are my friend not my fuck buddy. I know how to have an appropriate relationship with my friends and family without having sex with them. And I know how to talk respectfully and I know when to mind my own business. Currently you are talking about something that you have no right to talk to me about. Who ever showed you that picture is a member of swing Town and if they aren't swinging yet they want too. So we can be done with this conversation and go back to a normal friendship, devoid of sexual references, or you can take your judgemental ass out that door and never darken it again, because I am a grown adult and I'll fuck whomever I want in the privacy of my own home. She left but then returned two days later very apologetic. Don't let them shame you, your grown ass adults.
  3. 1 point
    I'm not gonna lie, when my husband told me about his "Hotwife" fantasy and asked me to start cheating on him by fucking other guys, I was pissed. I mean Why wasn't I enough for him? It's not like he could complain he wasn't getting enough pussy, I fucked him regularly, and I fucked him dirty. I'd never been a prude, I sucked his cock often, and I even took it in the butt occasionally just to mix it up. It's not my fault he didn't last long. I worked hard on fulfilling all of his sexual fantasies. I played my part as the lustful nanny that just wanted to fuck her boss. I was the slutty college girl that was "hot for teacher" and gunning for extra credit, and I definitely had a FIRM GRIP on the subject matter! If you know what I mean. I played the naked maid. And the slutty neighbor looking to cheat on her husband. So when he said it would be hot if I would flirt with and cheat on him with another guy, I honestly thought it was another role play. Next day when he got home from work, it was just me, no kids, I had on a silk robe and nothing else. I called him John (his name is James) and I said he was late and we needed to hurry cause my husband would be home soon. I told him I shouldn't be doing this but I needed to feel his cock inside me so bad I couldn't fucking think straight till I had him, he was all I could think about. I peeled his pants off and sucked his dick hard and fucked the shit out of him. The whole time telling him how much better his cock felt than my husband's did. It felt weird to me but I did it for him. He was excited and he popped fast, which was a bummer. I didn't complain, I rolled off him, made him grab my boob and slide two fingers into my pussy while I furiously rubbed my clit till I exploded with a somewhat satisfying orgasm. Laying there naked and vulnerable snuggling with my husband he then blindsided me by excitedly asking me if I was gonna really do it? I was confused and said, "Do what?" He said, "Cheat on me." I was a bit hurt and replied, "No, I'd never cheat on you." He then said "But babe, it isn't cheating if I give you permission, and you have it, I want this." Now I was mad. I got up and got dressed and I didn't talk to him for the rest of the night or the following two days. I had given him fucking everything and it wasn't enough. I had done things way outside of my comfort zone, and it wasn't enough. I HAD TRIED SO HARD, AND STILL IT WASN'T ENOUGH. That was when I decided to get out of my head and relax by doing some Yoga, and it's also when I changed my mind about all of it. When I got to the Yoga Studio, I happily realized Michael was the instructor, my heart soared when he was my Yogi. I had been crushing hard on him, he was kind and soulful, not to mention he was fucking ripped, and the bulge in his pants always made me think up some dirty thoughts. We had always had a flirty playful banter between us, but I was married and kept my true feelings to myself. I thought to myself that James was stupid because he had no idea the things I'd love to do to that man. In that moment it hit me hard, I suddenly realized for the first time I could totally act on my flirtation. I HAD PERMISSION. My husband wanted me to fuck him, he had practically begged me to fuck him, and in that moment I realized just how badly I wanted to fuck him. I texted James, "Is this really what you want, me just fucking other guys?" I set my phone down and started stretching. My phone boodelooped and the screen lit up. I saw my husband's response, "HELL YES!!!!" I grabbed my mat and moved to the front just as the class started. I couldn't get Michael's perfect physique out of my head. He caught me staring at him, I didn't look away. I just gave him a sly smile and winked at him. I felt stupid giddy and nervous and kept giggling to myself. After the class I hung back in the locker room making sure I was the last one out. I had showered, shaved everywhere, adjusted my bra for the maximum amount of cleavage, blow dried my hair and put on some makeup, and I hit that lobby like a cougar on the prowl. Much to my delight, Michael definitely noticed. I stopped and looked at a new mat hanging on the wall and made asked "Hey Jess, do you see anything you like?" I turned and attacked. I slowly looked him up and down focusing on his cock. "Mmmhmm, definitely, although like isn't the word, I'm leaning more towards need!" He took a step back in surprise. "Jess, wow, umm are we talking about, I mean what about your husband?" I looked him in the eye and let the mischievous smile creep back into place and I said,, "Hall Pass!" He said "what?" I stepped close enough to touch him and placed my hand on his chest and slowly started sliding it down his torso and said: "I have a hall pass, for the next six hours I can do whatever I want, and what I want to do is you!" We went straight to his place and I fucked the shit out of that man. I kept him naked for three hours. Unsure if I'd get a second attempt I gave him all of me. I fucked and sucked him till he came and then laid on him kissing and rubbing him till I felt the familiar bulge and sucked and fucked him again. I gave that man my Pussy, my Mouth and to ensure I made a good showing, my Ass. When he started to cum I wrapped my lips around his dick and sucked down every last drop he had. I fucked that man dirty and in the end was surprised to find I had absolutely no regrets. When I got home I walked up to my husband with cum till dribbling down my legs and told him I changed my mind and had just cheated on him, I fucking loved it, and fully intended to continue fucking Michael often. I then waited nervously for his reaction. To my surprise he was ecstatic asking for every dirty detail, which I gave him. With this new outlook I realized there were a number of men in my life that I would fancy spreading my legs for. So I did, I started a Tinder profile, and after one unexpected threesome with a couple I met at a bar, I had a bit of a sexual awakening with a woman, so I also set up a Her profile and have dated a few women which has made me realize that not only do I love cock, but I also very much love pussy. That is the story of how I became a hotwife and a self-proclaimed slut. That was 5 years ago, and after two years my husband and I got a chance to do a full swap and now we are full fledged swingers.
  4. 1 point
    Wow, so that is a loaded question. Honestly,, the answer is "it depends." By that I mean it depends on what is happening in the room, what is happening to the dick I am sucking on? Like is he getting hard, if he isn't I'm trying to troubleshoot his cock, if it is I'm probably proud of myself, is the dick big and getting bigger, or huge and getting super huge? I might be getting excited or I might be thinking about prep I can do to minimize the soreness I will experience later. Is it just me and him, or is there a crowd or an audience if I got an audience I'm wondering if I look sexy, am I putting on a good show, is there anyone getting jealous, should I share . If there is no one else present, I am probably focused on sucking that dick, and wondering how his Cum tastes. I like oral activities after all.
  5. 1 point
    It is said that porn is the world if a man was able to design the world. It is also said that people who are addicted to porn have to keep going to more extreme types of porn to keep the 'thrill'. It looks like he forgot that porn is pretend and that there are penalties for breaking the rules. I think that this is similar to the Janet Jackson/ Justin Timberlake Super Bowl fiasco. They had surrounded themselves with other people who were of the same mindset that a 'wardrobe malfunction' would be fine and would open the doors to opening up sexuality on television. This may have been true in their circle of people, and even in the LA area...California is much more liberal with things like that. But the Bible belt was, and still is, nowhere close to being ready to accept that and it exploded. Years later, we are still not close to having topless women on television (unless you have a pay channel). Murder, death, killing, drug abuse, etc. is just fine, but nipples, NEVER! In the world of porn, no doesn't always mean no. Ron is about to learn that the real world isn't like the porn world (if he is found guilty). There are not many hard rules in swinging, but even here no means no.
  6. 1 point
    Mine's blue. Didn't you get the memo? Or maybe it was me who didn't get the memo...hmm. There's someone else in our neighborhood though that has exactly the same make, model, year, and color SUV. Maybe I should go talk to them...
  7. 1 point
    Cheating is a woman or a man fucks around with another person while hiding it from their spouse. Cuckolding is when the wife flirts with other men openly and has sex with them openly, the spouse here knows and the wife does not care. Often this comes with some humiliation for the husband. Some husband's want to be cuckolded some don't. The term does not mean consent. It just means he knows and is powerless to stop it and has no say in how or when it happens. A Hotwife has permission to fuck around, think of it like a hall pass from her marriage. Some men like to pick the other man, some allow the wife to decide. So for instance, I travel for work, while I am traveling my husband and I have an agreement that I can fuck whoever I want. I'm honest about my sexual proclivities, I tell him about the guys I date. Sometimes I even send pictures, videos and texts giving him details of the evening.
  8. 1 point
    What area do you live? What is her Madison profile name? Wife here....gangbangs come in all shapes and sizes. We've found that getting guys to show up isn't as easy as you'd think. Many men will respond to requests and not show up. We tried craigslist a few years ago and it was flake city. We've posted on the swinger site we're on and have had better luck. Try to keep the number fairly low (3-6) unless you're going to have a fluffer on scene to keep the guys up. Make sure your significant other screens they guys and the rules are known. I'm not into humiliation or rough play. I wanted sex with multiple men, not get slapped around, spanked, etc. He made sure that guys followed the rules. Expect some soreness afterward, the next day. Again, depends on the number of guys.
  9. 1 point
    My brother had a VW microbus, complete with 8 track deck, flowers on the side, etc. However, I can't say I've ever knowingly spotted him on this forum ?? ?? ??
  10. 1 point
    I remember being told that people who had a VW van were pot smoking hippies that believed in free love. I don’t see many of them but I’m always looking to see who gets out of one.
  11. 1 point
    The week could not go any slower. My lunch with Jessica got my mind going all over again. I started to go back online more, browsing through more profiles and even got on cam a couple times. I could not wait to meet up with Jessica, we had been texting throughout the week, flirting, sending cute selfies of each other. The last picture she sent me was of her in a two-piece bikini, her body stunning, so much so made me a little self-conscious. Her text read; Plan for the weekend... gonna be hot so drinks ? , sun ☀️ and pool!!! Dave won't be home til late Sunday so bring bathing suit or not ? keep me company!!! ohhh... and if it gets a little crazy you can always crash with me ? I was excited and nervous. I definitely wanted to spend the day and even the night with her. The weekend was finally here. I had to get a cute two-piece suit as well, after hours looking for the right one, no such thing I guess cause I ended up getting a few. I came over to Jessica's house around noon. Their house is beautiful, I nervously knocked and within a few seconds, she answered. She invited me in, kissed me on the lips and led me in by the hand. She said, "Let me give you a quick tour!" She was already dressed and ready. She had her little blue bikini on. She had a see through white cover up. As she walked a bit ahead of me I looked at her gorgeous curves, her bottoms were basically a G-string. Her small waist accentuated her ass, so toned and firm and perfectly rounded. I bit my lip as I followed her. Looking straight ahead, I could see the main living room, with a large glass sliding door leading out to the backyard. We walked and turned left into the main hallway, to the left side was an office, which we bypassed really quickly. Jessica smirked, "Nothing to see there, it's Dave's office just boring stuff" and she waved it off. We laughed and continued to turn into the first door on the right into their spare room. The room was bigger than mine, I could only imagine their room!! It was basic, a queen size bed with a white comforter, throw blanket at the foot of the bed and a couple pillows. A couple nightstands to either side, a small dresser and a TV mounted above it. She said, "Here, you can leave your stuff here." I dropped my backpack on the bed and walked back to the hallway to join her. We continued on to the end of the hallway through double doors into their suite. She walked me through quickly, showed me around. The bathroom is amazing, large window above the hot tub, walk in shower and walk in closets. I glanced over at the shower and just imagined back to the story she shared with me after coming home and telling Dave about Jay. I imagined Jessica with her hands up on the steamed glass leaving her hand prints above her head, the body pressed up against the glass, beads of water running down as she lowered her hips and lifted her ass. Warm water falling down on Dave as he held her by her waist, slowly pushing his hard cock in deep into Jessica while she told him all the details. My mind was completely focused on the shower that I didn't hear Jessica call my name. "Heather!!", Jessica said loudly as she smiled, "Did I lose you?" Startled a bit I turned around I responded, "Oh...sorry, yes, I mean no. I'm ok, just something ran through my mind." A little embarrassed I turned away and walked over to her. She laughed - "Oh ok, anything good you wanna share?" I smiled and looked down - "No nothing, just you have a beautiful place, guess I just got lost for a second." I became so shy for the moment. One of the things that I love about Jessica is that although she is successful, a doctor, beautiful and as I saw then, doing well, very well. She will not make you feel as if she is better than you are. She makes it very comfortable to be around and for whatever reason she has an interest in me. She made a joke and pulled me - "Come on, let's get a drink". We walked back down the hallway to the living room. High ceilings, open space leading in to the dining area and then to a huge open kitchen with an island separating the two. As we walked by, I saw the couch and the island countertop and again I could imagine her Dave. This time I didn't not get lost in my head. She poured a drink - "You ok with some margaritas?!" I nodded - "Yes, that's perfect". Jessica grabbed some snacks and said we'll worry about food later on. It was a good thing I had a good breakfast or Jessica for sure would be taking advantage of me, not that she needed much help with that. I wanted her to do so already! We walked to their backyard, just as with the rest of the house it was spacious and private with high walls and few trees lining the edges of the yard. The neighborhood is pretty spaced out, it did make me think about what kind of parties they are having here. The large rectangular pool a few feet away, a waterfall at one edge, at the other a Jacuzzi and in between along the long side of the pool on a shallow side a set of sunbathing seats. They had their little slice of paradise. Walked over to the end of their deck and sat down at a patio table. I looked around, said to her "Wow, makes me want to go back to and become a doctor, this is beautiful, thank you for having me over." Jessica, graceful as she is responded, "You should definitely do it, we need more sexy doctors... just kidding, I really think you would do great, should really think about it." A really nice moment, after a bit of silence she asked with a mischievous look, "Have you talked to Jay recently?" I responded, “We chatted a little online and talked about the next time we should meet up again, it has been a while!" Jessica nodded - "So not since the office right? He's a good guy and I'm sure he will try to get you in with his wife I'm sure." I smiled, ”You’ll have to tell me about that, I will go out on a limb and since he made that proposition to you and you said deal... you guys did?" Jessica loves to tell her stories: Yeah we did, it was fun. She had no idea that we work together or that we've fucked a few times before we met her. I told Dave what Jay had asked and he was up for it, just said she had to be good looking, wasn't taking one for the team! Jessica laughed and continued: We made up a story about meeting on a website so Jay and Dave could start texting. Dave is really cool about things so that I know of he never made a deal about Jay fucking me. Although they may have talked about it at some point. This was our cover to get Ashley involved. We got on a group chat and went from there. Started with dinner and drinks, we all got along. It was hot knowing that we all knew and she didn't and also hard to keep my hands off of Jay. Jay and I kept on chatting on the side and even fucked a couple more times in the office and had him come over once, both Dave and Jay took care of me so damn good! That was the last time until he met you! Said with a smile The first time we fucked with Ashley was a few weeks later. We invited them over to the house after we were out and doing a little bar hoping. We had a couple more drinks here, which of course led to where we all wanted to go. Ashley is hot and Dave definitely did not take one for the team. I could see he enjoyed fucking her and I did too! We've met a few times after, I think you'll enjoy both of them if you get a chance. Not as much as me but you'll still have a good time! But enough about them... let's get in the pool already! Go get changed and I’ll pour us another round. Sounded great, it was heating up in more than a few ways. We both got up and walked inside. Could feel the cool air immediately walking in through the door. Jessica took my glass and I walked to the bedroom. I closed the door behind me and began to get ready. I sat down and began to undress, already aroused and with the colder room my nipples were so hard. I couldn't help but touch them with my finger tip gently before giving them a squeeze. My sexual frustration was increasing. I could tell as I took off my shorts and panties. I knew I was wet, I got so wet naturally but after talking to Jessica and fantasizing, I can say I was now dripping wet. My panties were soaked and a string of silky fluid followed my panties as I pulled them down. I touched myself, my lips drowned in my wetness, my fingers slid easily between them, my clit was aroused and as much as I wanted to spend a few minutes working on my swollen clit I knew I should go back out. Naked, I pulled the swimsuits and had to choose one. I went with white bottoms, fit low on my hips and mid-way on my ass. I don't have the confidence to wear a g-string or the ass for it, but I thought this was sexy enough. The top was a simple red bikini top, enough for the triangles to cover my nipples and enough of my breasts. Rest was string tied behind my neck and around my back. The one aspect of my body that I love is my tits, not huge, just a full C cup in most cases sometimes depending on bras a D. I guess I'm still young enough to have them sit on the shelf and look perky but not fake. My nipples were still hard and could feel them coming through my top. I put on sandals and my jean shorts back on and left the button undone, just zipped up halfway. Grabbed my sunglasses and I walked back to the kitchen, it felt like I was gone forever but it was only a few minutes. Jessica was waiting with a drink in hand. She looked at me and said "Wow, you look amazing, love the top! Need anything else before we get some sun?" I did need something, I had planned it in my head and felt naughty doing so, "Yes, I'm gonna need you to help me with a little sunscreen, if you wouldn't mind. I forgot to bring some" She happily replied, "Of course not, I'll help you rub it it" I thought I was so sly, making excuses to have Jessica touch me. We walked back outside, Jessica handed me her drink and grabbed sunscreen on the way out along with a couple towels. We walked over to the edge of the pool and sat on the lawn chairs. Jessica commented it would be a quick stop before getting in the water. She laid the towels on each one of the chairs and came up behind me. I put the drinks down and moved to the edge to give some room for Jessica. She knelt behind me and grabbed the sunscreen. I pulled my hair away to expose my neck and shoulders. I felt cold at first, making me shrug shoulders and shiver a bit. Jessica reacted "Sorry, I'll warm you up" and rubbed her hands together before continuing. She took her time and hands felt soft along my shoulders to my back. She made sure to touch every inch of my back. She then moved back, told me to lay on my stomach, and went on to the back of my legs. Of course, she didn't need to do it but I didn't mind. I laid on my stomach, still kneeling on the side, she continued on the small of my back and then to my thighs. It felt like a massage and I was thoroughly enjoying it. She continued to my calves, then to my heels and ended with my feet. I turned around and looked at her and said, "Might as well continue on the other side". Jessica responded, "Well of course how could I only do one side and not the other!" She knew exactly what I was doing and she played along. More sunscreen and worked back up to my knees and again my thighs. Looked at me and slightly pushed my legs apart and made sure to go up my inner thighs, getting so close and just teasing me. I know it was wet and if it wasn't a swimsuit made to contain moisture she'd be able to see how wet I was. She moved to my stomach and under my tits. I could see her looking at them and caught her bringing her bottom lip inward and biting it. She then moved to my chest and worked closely sliding her fingertips under my top and nearly gracing my erect nipples. She finished by my neck, looked down at me, and without hesitation leaned down. My lips met hers, soft and gentle. Our lips in sync slowly opened allowing out tongues to meet and press against one another. Her hands alongside my neck, putting slight pressure around the back. My hands came over and around her shoulders meeting at the back of her neck. We kissed for a few seconds. She pulled up and said, "Wow you are so yummy! I think we are going to have a good day." She was clearly teasing me and getting me worked up. I smiled and agreed with her. She stood up and reached out her hand, I took hold and stood up. We grabbed our drinks and stepped into the pool. The water felt refreshing, cool not cold, perfect for a hot day. For the next few hours, we enjoyed the sun and water. The drinks were flowing and we were having fun. As the evening arrived and the drinks went down, the more comfortable we got. While sitting on the sunbathing seats in the shallow end, she came over to me. She said, "What are you thinking about food? Hungry yet?" I responded, "I can eat for sure, probably do need to eat before I'm done with the day with all this alcohol you've been feeding me, I know you want to take advantage of me and I wanna remember it!" Jessica stood and slid her leg over me and straddled me and looked down - "Ok then, better get you fed, we still have more to go, but first I'm going to start what you've been wanting... I'm going to have a little desert before our meal." Jessica leaned down and kissed me again, passionately. Then began to slide down, took the corners of the bikini top and slid them to the sides, my tits popped out. She continued down and licked my boobs, one at a time, spending a few seconds nibbling at my hard nipples. The chairs were in a shape of a flat S in the shallow end. Perfect contour to my body, keeping my top well above water, the back sliding down to my ass where there is just enough water to sit on but keeping my stomach above water. The seat continued upward, supporting my legs before ending. Jessica continued to move downward as she got to my stomach, she grabbed on to the sides of my bottoms and slid them down. I helped by supporting and lifting my stomach giving her space to pull them down. As she moved down, she pulled me bringing my waist to the upslope of the chair. She made herself comfortable in between my legs. I gladly spread them as she glanced up towards me one last time before diving back down. Her hands ran along my inner thighs and her mouth made contact as I felt her soft lips on my inner thigh on the left leg, then the right leg, working up alternating until she came under my pussy. With one lick, she ran her tongue over the opening and ended right above my clit. She pressed down over my clit and began to work her tongue in circular motion. My body tensed up and pushed up towards her mouth. My hands tightly holding on to the side of the chair, unable to contain how good she was making me feel I began to moan between periods of trying to hold my breath. Jessica looked up, her hands took the place of her mouth. She slid her index and middle finger in and began to thrust in and out pushing upward to connect directly with my g-spot. The perfect pressure, giving me that urge to pee but different and making my body tense up, taking my breath away. She followed back down, working getting me further along. After a few minutes, knowing I was close, she continued with my clit. With the stimulation of her tongue on my clit and her fingers still sliding slightly in and out, it was not long before a loud scream - "Fuuuuccckkk... hmmmm... “ indicating climax. My body reacting to as my pussy spasmed in ecstasy. She continued until I grabbed her hair and pulled her back - "Fuuuck I can't" in the middle of panting and my body contracting. Jessica, with one last kiss on my clit, made my body jump. She came up, kissed me, and stood up. "Ready for dinner?" and smiled. I laid there catching my breath, this woman, the things she can do. After a couple minutes, she had walked in the house, I got up, put my bottoms back on, covered my tits and grabbed a towel. I walked in and she said - "Alright I just ordered us some dinner, think we should get out of these wet clothes!" Grabbed my hand and I followed. We walked to her room and into the bathroom, where without a thought she undressed and turned on the shower. Came back to me and once again undressed me. She reached behind and untied my top, pulled it over the top of my neck. She reached down and pulled my bottoms off. Grabbed me by the side of my neck and pulled me close to her and kissed me. Our bodies pressed hard against one another. The shower now steaming she led me in. The water was warm, I could feel the sting of the water as it touched my sun bathed shoulders. Jessica is maybe an inch or two taller than me making it easy to be at the same level. We wrapped our arms around one another, our lips intertwined pressing our bodies together. Her tits pushed up against mine, our bodies slightly off center allowing my leg to between hers and hers between mine. As we continued to kiss, we separated our bodies with enough space to allow my hands to come between our bodies. I ran my hands from her neck downward following the contour of her body. My fingertips follow the flow of the water over her chest, down the side of her hips before taking a detour to her midsection finding just below about to feel her inside. I paused above her clit, slowly with my palm pressing slightly into her, I moved down past clit piercing, leading with my middle finger. I found the split of her pussy lips, inch by inch downward taking her lips between my fingers, smoothly sliding through. Jessica kept herself completely smooth, wet and silky making my fingers slide down without friction. I passed over her opening slightly pressing just to feel over my fingertips until I found the end. At that point, I curled my middle and ring finger and began back up. This time pressing inward. Her pussy spread, I felt the ridges of her swollen walls as I pushed in deeper. Jessica felt warm and tight. Jessica enjoyed it, she continued to kiss me as she spread her legs wider to give me easier access. Her hands on my ass, caressing and spreading them and she squeezed. Coming up for air every few seconds, we continued. I kept on playing with her, going in and out and taking turns touching her clit. I didn't know what I was doing, had never done this. I was lost in the moment and hoped she was enjoying it. The heat of the moment, the shower, sun and the drinks were all hitting me. I was feeling amazingly great and had completely lost all inhibition. Through the kissing and touching, we bathed one another. It was sensual and arousing feeling her run through my entire body lathering me up while my hands were doing the same with her. After what felt like a few minutes, she reminded us about dinner and we may hear the doorbell soon. We both needed to get something in our stomach even though I didn't want to stop. We rinsed off and turned the shower off, spent a few more seconds kissing before stepping out. She grabbed a towel for me and one for her and began to dry off. We then walked back to her room where we sat on the bed and chatted a little more. We were in no hurry to get dressed. Suddenly the doorbell rang. She smiled and asked, "Should we just walk up there like this? Do you think it will be a guy or girl?" I laughed and told her she was crazy. She didn't hesitate, stood up, grabbed my hand and pulled me and we giggled on the way to the door. We both were in a towel that covered us up just enough. I know, it felt like we were going to walk into an old porn cliché - invite the pizza delivery guy in for an amazing threesome because we didn't have enough to pay him. Of course, this was not it and it did not turn into that. It was still sexy to open the door to a complete stranger who looked to be about 20 in just a towel with sex in my mind. Jessica took the food into the living room and we agreed to get more comfortable and meet back in the living room. I went back to the room and changed into workout pants and a V-neck tee and nothing else. I walked into the living room and sat down, a couple seconds later Jessica came back. She only had panties and what I'd assume was Dave's shirt. It was long enough to be a short skirt and only buttoned with the top four or five buttons. She poured a couple glasses of wine and joined me on the couch. We ate, drank some not very much and chatted some more. It was fun and light with a lot of laughter. I took an opportunity to ask to expand on her admission when we met for dinner that it had been her idea to join Jay and I at the office. Jessica recounted the conversation she had with Jay: Now that you know Jay and I have known each other for a while, we talk a lot. Imagine the excitement and the horror it was to find out he was going to be working at the same office for a while. We made a deal that while working in the same office, he and I could not make it obvious anything was going on between us. Think we did a good job. They definitely did because I had no idea and no one ever said anything about them. Even when I was working with her for a few days. Part of that deal was that on his last day we'd fuck to send him on his way. We still talked when we had a chance and you came up in conversation. We both had our eye on you and he shared the story of you two hooking up on your last day. He was excited and we almost broke our deal when he told me about it the following week. I wanted to jump on him and fuck him but I kept my cool and didn't. So... when it came to you I asked him if he thought you'd be into girls and if you'd freak out if I joined you guys. I thought the perfect day would be on his last day, I was going to fuck him already and as it worked out it was perfect because I met you!! Jay was nervous but said he'd try to figure it out and see if he could feel you out. That Friday morning, I walked into his office and asked him, he said he thought you'd be in and so I told him to just let me know for sure. We agreed that he'd send me a message, which I was happy to receive and you know the rest. So much made sense now, it all felt like perfect timing thinking back at Jay asking me to trust him and just as I had his cock in my mouth the knock on the door and next thing I know Dr. Sexy was behind me and ready to help. I laughed and told her that I was going to have to get her back sometime and Jay had something coming too! Her phone rang and she looked at me and said, "Oh, this should be fun!" She answered the phone, "Hi sweetheart, how are you? How’s the trip going?" I realized it was her husband on the phone. I could see her mind racing with what I assume naughty thoughts. Jessica said to Dave, "Great to hear! I've been good, have enjoyed a really nice day with Heather, hold on lets switch to video so you can say hi." Jessica took the phone and pushed a couple keys and Dave came back on. She came and sat next to me, she extended her arm to get both of us in view. Dave is very handsome, beautiful eyes and a great smile. Dave said to me, "Hi Heather, nice to see you, hopefully soon I'll get to meet you in person. Has Jessica been a good host I hope?" In my mind, I was a little guilty because Jessica has been an amazing host and more ways than I could say! "Yes she has, you guys have a beautiful home! Jessica has been amazing, thank you for letting me have her for the day!" Dave responded, "She is wonderful and hopefully next time you will be ok with both taking good care of you. You are welcome anytime. Jessica has told me so much about you." I was very sure Jessica had shared everything with him and it made me feel a little self-conscious. I smiled and thanked him, "It will be nice to meet you in person as well and Jessica has also told me about you both, you guys seem to be great together." Jessica took the screen back to her and asked if everything was going well and still planning to be able to get back the following day. Dave let her know everything was good and couldn't wait to get home. They said goodnight, a quick turn of the screen towards me to wave and say goodnight and she ended the call. Jessica turned to me and admitted, "As you probably already know I do share everything with him, hope you don't mind, don't want you to feel uncomfortable. He really does want to meet you. But, don't want you to think that it's a proposition, I mean I know he'd want to, but don't want you to think that you have to..." For the first time I saw Jessica a little jittery and it was cute. Made her feel more human. It's weird to think that way but what I've always seen is a doctor, confident, taking charge and never nervous, even with me! I laughed and said, "It's ok, totally fine you make it really easy to feel comfortable, I'm sure he'll be the same." For the first time the thought of being with Dave rushed in my head. As if she was reading my mind she blurted, "Well, I'm just saying... there isn't any drama with us and we are really open, you know if anything happens so always feel comfortable with me or him." With him? I thought. Jessica got up to get a refill on our wine glass. Although the shower and food sobered us up a little our inhibitions remained low judging by the last few words spoken. After a couple more glasses of wine, my inhibitions were completely gone. Jessica had been taking care of me all day and even going back to the time with Jay. I was ready to show my appreciation. In mid-sentence, I leaned towards her and kissed her. She gladly accepted. I grabbed her by the hand and took her glass, put it down on the table and pulled her to follow me. We got to her room, stood by the bed and turned around. I wanted to take control and now to take care of her. I began to kiss her and one button at a time took her shirt off. Her breast now exposed, I pulled the shirt over her shoulders and felt it drop to the floor. I sat on the bed, kissed her exposed stomach and slowly pulled her panties down. Her bare pussy in front of me. She pulled my shirt off and I licked her waist, had my arms around her pulling her closer and without thought pulled her hard and twisted her onto the bed. It wasn't the most graceful and we both laughed as she tumbled over me. I was determined though and adjusted myself. I wanted to taste her, make her feel the way she had made me feel. She told me to get naked with her and I did quickly. I positioned myself between her legs spread them open. Her piercing glistening with the wetness of her arousal. I lowered my head, my tongue tasting her. She tasted sweet and felt silky. I took my time exploring her, taking my tongue trying to go deep in her, feeling the ridges I felt with my fingers earlier. I stopped at her lips, feeling the flesh in my mouth. I then focused more on her clit. I still wouldn't say I knew what I was doing, but Jessica was great at helping me along. Even though I thought I was in control clearly, I was not as much. She began to tell me what felt good, "Yessss right there, that feels good" I focused on the circular motion of my tongue on her clit. Then she said, "Put your fingers in me!" I complied, took two of my fingers curled up a bit, began to go in and out putting more pressure towards the top, and knew exactly when I found the spot. She tensed up and clenched her fist on the comforter. Her pussy contracted squeezing my fingers. My tongue raced to keep up with her trying to push her over the edge. I could feel it coming, her hips rhythmically moving with my fingers and mouth. Jessica took her right hand, grabbed me by the hair pushing me deeper into her. The pressure increases and so close to climax. I felt my body begin to tense up along with her. Jessica breathing deeper, moaning in pleasure she'd say, "yeessss, don't stop... ohhhhhh, keep going... yeessssss...." I was determined to keep it going until she orgasmed as she has made me a couple times. Her grasp became stronger around my head and I knew she was close. Jessica screamed loudly, "Fuuuuccckkkk... ohhh yeessss, ohh my, there... there... yesss." Her body tensed up, her hips raised, my mouth kept on going, and my fingers stopped. I felt a rush of warmness flood my fingers and part of my palm. Her pussy walls contracted strongly around my fingers. Jessica continued to gasp and her body continued to contract. I pulled back but wanted to continue to feel her inside... slowly her pussy stopped squeezing my finger and slowly pulled them out. There was so much wetness, her pussy glistened and spilled to her inner thighs and ass. I was sure a wet spot was under her. I came out, catching my breath as well and laid next to her. I was so turned on, I took my hand and felt myself. I was almost as wet as she was. I started to rub my clit, knowing she was next to me and could keep things going. My breathing became heavier, she could see me, and it wasn't long before she turned to her side and started suckling on my nipples before coming to kiss me. Jessica reached down, placed her hand over mine and traced it with hers. She pushed my hand, putting more pressure on my fingers then swiftly finding her way inside me. Her lips felt soft on mine. Suddenly she got on her knees and told me to continue as she reached across into a drawer. She maneuvered herself in between my legs, I happily adjusted to allow her access. She bent down, supported herself with her left arm, giving me enough room to continue to rub my wet pussy. Jessica reached towards me and as she kissed me, I felt something suddenly begin to open me up. It felt warm and as she went in slowly, it began to stretch me. Jessica pushed far and deep and I could feel myself completely full with a sense of pleasure mixed in with a bit of pain. I realized Jessica was fucking me with a toy. Her strokes began to be more forceful and often. With the toy going in deeply and out to the brink of the outer edges and my fingers working hard on my clit my body tensed up, I took my free hand and wrapped it around Jessica's back and pulled her down. She shifted herself to the side over my neck. I was careful not digging my nails into her back but she was making it so difficult. She sensed my impending climax, slowed, and pulled back. She sat up to her knees, maintaining the toy inside me she shifted to a seated position. Our legs spread intertwined, she positioned herself on her side, which gave me the opportunity to do the same. I realized at the moment, the toy she had was a double sided dildo. As she inched a little closer she positioned the other head and slid in easily. The both of us began to swing our hips towards each other allowing each end to go into us. We found a rhythm. I continued stimulating my clit as she began to do the same. We pushed hard making each other moan, open mouth and breathing heavily. As the speed picked up, our fingers with more pressure got me so much closer to climax again. The situation, the sounds, smells, all of it completely engulfed me to the extent I was not aware of anything else. The intensity continued to increase and I could no longer contain it. Once again, with full body contractions, my pussy tightly gripping to the toy I could no longer continue to touch my clit. I grabbed on the comforter, tightly holding on as the wave ecstasy filled my body. It wasn't long for Jessica to join me. As I stopped swaying my hips and kept them there to help support the toy as she picked up the pace. Her hands furiously circling her swollen clit and so close. I pulled back and returned the favor, I grabbed on to the toy, feeling slippery filled with my juices I grabbed on tightly. Began to quickly push in and out. Did not take long for her to push hard on her clit and her body began to shudder. She held her breath and I could see her hand pulsating, being pushed by each contraction of her pussy. She pushed her head back and melted, ending on her back. We laid there, catching our breath. The comforter soaked as a result. After a couple minutes, Jessica sat up, moved the comforter off and pushed it down the bed. I stood up to help her and as I was ready to figure out a way to walk away and back to the other room. She pulled the sheet up and reached her hand out. Jessica said, "Come on, join me." I had no problem with that. The day had felt long, sun, water, drinks and a few mind blowing, body shaking orgasms. We were both exhausted. She turned off the lights, within a few minutes my eyes closed, and we fell asleep. Read the Previous Chapters My Journey Into The Lifestyle - The Beginning My Journey Into the Lifestyle - Chapter 2 - Self Discovery My Journey Into The Lifestyle - Chapter 3 - Soft Feeling of a Woman My Journey Into The Lifestyle - Chapter 4 - Stories Keep Drawing Me In
  12. 1 point
    Life has a tendency to hit you and turn your life upside down and this year has been difficult for all of us. Just as my journey began to open up, this pandemic hit. It has affected us in so many ways and for me it has been tough. Work has been crazy with long hours. Thankfully, my health is good but I have seen so much and how it has been a tough time for so many. With my mind elsewhere, my lifestyle discovery paused for a few months. It had been months since my adventure with Jay and Jessica (Dr. Sexy) but we have kept in touch. Their lives are hectic as well and with all the precautions, the thought of meeting has not crossed my mind. I lie, it has but I know it isn’t the best time for it. All of us being in healthcare and with so many things unknown it was not a chance any of us wanted to take. However, it gave me an opportunity to get to know Jessica a bit more and she shared a few stories with me. Jessica is married and in a very open secure relationship. Her husband travels a lot for work and they have an understanding about being sexually open and free to do as they want. This is very hard for me to understand, I mean I get the allure of sex especially with someone new, but how can you be committed to one another yet be free to be intimate with others. They obviously have a different view on this and I have made a point to be open-minded. Jessica and I have been texting a lot and spend a few hours a week on the phone. I have really grown to like her and would say we are now friends even though she is about 10 years older than me we have a lot in common. A few weeks ago, as the pandemic fear have decreased and restrictions have lessened we took advantage of meeting up for lunch. This was the first time I would see her since the office, and wow how can we forget the office! I got to the cafe first and was already seated, I was nervous and excited it felt like a date for some reason. She walked up and looked stunning, first time seeing her in regular clothes outside of the clinic, no coat and her hair down. She is beautiful, does not wear a lot of makeup and just this confidence about her. We greeted each other with a hug and kiss on the cheek. We made small talk about work, it was easy to chat and in no way awkward. In the middle of the conversation Jay came up, we had not talked about that day or him in the past. It was fun to reminisce a bit and I couldn't help to begin to get excited. She shared with me how it all began with them and that surprisingly it had only been a few times. Jessica also admitted to me that it was her idea to join in that day in the office. We laughed and I asked her to tell me details. We were so engaged with one another that without knowing our feet would tangle at times. At first I pulled back and said sorry, she responded not to worry about it - "we've done more than play footsies!" It really felt comfortable with her, I asked her to continue. Jessica and Jay had met a couple years ago when he was working as a computer trainer. She said he would come over to the clinic to check in with them and every time he stopped by, they would chat. At first it was all work related and things she needed help with on the computer. She always found him attractive and admitted she started to fantasize about him. As I mentioned Jessica and her husband have a very open relationship and to my shock, Jessica said she told her husband about it. Seems like he was excited for her and supported her pursuit of him. He would be over every other week or so and she started making stuff up for him to come and help. She said then she just started flirting with him and he flirted with her. One day she asked him if he could stop by at the end of the day after she finished seeing patients, she needed help with something. Jay showed up, most of the clinic was done and gone. Jessica said she was nervous because she was going to hit on him and tell him about her fantasies. He came in and chatted kinda like normal, but didn't take long to see that she really didn't need any help. She asked him if he could close the door and she wanted to talk to him about something. Jay reluctantly did so, she stood up and walked towards Jay. She then said, "I know this is awkward and I know you are married but I find you really attractive. You know I'm also married but..." she paused "we are really open about things, and we've been in the lifestyle for a while and we've had this fantasy of me hooking up with someone married." Jessica said Jay's jaw dropped and she thought he was going to just tell her off and walk away. He stayed quiet for a few seconds and said, "I don't know what to say." He didn't pull away or try to leave and Jessica took the opportunity to go a little further, she got closer to him, he did not hesitate this time. He put his hands around her waist and leaned down to kiss her. Jessica said she felt his cock start getting hard immediately as they pressed closer together. She whispered in his ear if it was ok if he got a little sneak peak of what could happen. What happened next was awesome in my mind and got me so wet. The confidence in which Jessica took control of the situation and it felt as for once the woman was the one taking control and in a way using the man. Jessica turned him around, pushed him down to sit on her chair. She pulled her hair up, kept the glasses on she was wearing. Went down to her knees and quickly got his pants down. It was as if she was on a mission. Reminded me a little of how she took control of me and made me do what she wanted. As I heard her story, I could feel my pussy flood with arousal. She pulled his cock out, already hard and big. I will admit Jay has a really nice thick cock, good size, not scary huge but big enough to fill you up anywhere he puts it in. She took his cock and had herself a good time with it. Sucked him, taking him deep making him moan and without even any input from him made him cum, she said he filled her mouth with cum and swallowed every bit of it. I can see she loves to be in control and I feel empowered by it. I caught myself with my mouth open, in amazement. Jessica also caught me, smiled, and asked me if it turns me on hearing about it. I said "fuck yeah, can't believe you did it like that and in the office... what happened after? you tell your husband?" Jessica replied - With Jay, nothing for a little while. I kissed him and told him to let me know if he was interested, we'd work something out. He left and didn't take long for him to reach out to me by the next day. That night though, when I got home, Dave fucked the shit out of me. As soon as I was done sucking Jay's cock and he left, I texted Dave, told him I did it. I know that turns him on. As you can imagine how wet I was. On my way home, he texted me a pic of his hard cock. Jay is nice and big but Dave is just a little bigger. My mouth was salivating and could not wait to have him. I got home, walked in and he was on the couch in just his shorts, hard cock out just waiting for me. I walked to him and I could not contain myself. I love to be in control except when I'm with him, I completely lose control. He grabbed me by my hair pulled me down, I opened wide as his cock was pushed to the back of my throat. He held me and he began to fuck my mouth, making me gag. Told me he was glad his little slut was home and came home full of cum and next time he wants me to come with a pussy full of cum. He pulled me up, told me to get naked, everything off. I did as I was told... watching him stroke his huge cock. He stood up, dropped his shorts and turned me around, pushed me over the couch and teased me with his cock around my ass then pussy and back over my ass. He said he could see my pussy was so wet and ready for him. It was, I was soaking and wanted him in me. He then slowly started to spread my pussy and forcefully began to fuck me. He was pounding me so hard and so good. I was screaming with such pleasurable pain. He goes in so deep, my ass up in the air taking all of him. It wasn't long that I was screaming as I orgasmed for the first time. It just kept on going... he pulled out and turned me around, sat me down and told me to open my mouth. I obeyed and he put his cock back in my mouth. I could taste my pussy all over it and it was so good. I could tell he was about to cum, but I also knew he wanted more. He pulled me up again by the hair, which I love, tight close to the back of my head by my neck. It's such good pressure and it’s the good type of pain. Dave turned me around before I sat back down and took his cock in once again. He thrusted up, as I sat on him and leaned back and he reached around to rub my clit. It was literally seconds before I came one more time and so much more intense. With my pussy pulsating on his cock his thrust slowed down and I knew he was ready to explode. I pulled away, turned around and back on my knees between his legs. I took his cock one last time in my mouth. I slowed down and stroked him slowly, working his cock to an inch of exploding until he could no longer hold it. I opened my mouth wide as I stroked his cock slowly, feeling silky smooth with my pussy juices all over it until he could not contain himself anymore. He shot his cum up to the back of my throat. I covered his cock with my mouth and felt him fill my mouth with his cum. I swallowed once again every bit of it and licked him completely clean. He laid back completely satisfied, I smiled as I got up. Picked up my clothes and walked into the room. I started the shower and walked in. I knew he'd join me in a few minutes. He sure did, Dave stepped in and came up behind, put his arms around me and told me to tell him every detail of my first hook up with Jay. As I did, I could feel his cock harden up once again. As I continued, his cock easily found my pussy and with slow thrusts I got through every detail. When I finished it did not take long, this time he filled my pussy with his hot cum. The conversation was so hot I wanted to know more I asked her so how long before she came home as Dave requested and as hot as it is, wasn't she worried about not wearing condoms? Jessica was happy to answer - It was a few weeks later. We kept on having fun flirting when he came over to the clinic. I guess one of the benefits of being a doctor I can order that STD testing! I asked him if he was interested in more, I had a special request. He said yes but wanted to share something with me but he wouldn't say. I told him to meet me again at the end of the day on a Friday, but first I needed to be sure that he was clean in order to fulfill my special request - he said “sure I was meaning to get it done already.” I told him I'll let him know if we were good to go on Friday when I got the results. That comment stayed in my mind, but it all made sense when we met. Friday morning checked and his results came in and everything looked good so I called him and told him see in the afternoon. Friday was definitely the best day of the week, not only the end of the week but everyone leaves earlier. Remember? I laughed because I knew exactly what she was referring to, Friday was my last day and also Jay's last day and on both days we had fun in that building! Jessica continued... I made sure that I was wearing a dress that day and about an hour or so before he showed up I took my panties off. I actually saw the last couple patients pantie-less. That on its own is arousing especially when there are a couple cute patients! Jay was in my office when I was done with the last patient. We still had a couple people in the clinic, but knew they would be leaving soon. We made small talk for a few minutes until the last nurse left. My pussy was wet, warm, and ready to take him. I asked him about what he wanted to share with me, he responded saying nothing as he came close to me and kissed me. He said he'd tell me after. I wanted to know, I pulled back and told him we're not doing anything until he told me. He said as he pulled me closer "not a big deal, just that I can't wait to fuck you and my wife - we're in the lifestyle as well, but you and maybe your husband will have to promise me not to say anything to her about today or any other day?" That was a surprise to me and just responded with "DEAL" He then said "so what's this special request?" I responded "well as you know my husband is open and supportive, he knows exactly what happened last time and he fucked me so good while I told him details, he said next time he wants me to come with a pussy full of cum... do you think you can help with that?" I took his hand down under my dress and let him feel me bare pussy. He happily let me guide him, without hesitation rubbed my clit, and slowly pushed his finger in sliding easily in. I undid his pants, pulled his hard cock out and took him in. Made sure his cock was nice and wet, not that I needed it but I wanted to taste him. I then turned around, put my hands over my desk, pulled my dress up exposing my ass. I told him "ok let's see what you got, fill me up!" Jay came behind me and started slow, but I did not want slow. I wanted hard and deep even if it took only a couple minutes. I reached back, pulled him in, and told him "don't slow down just fuck me hard I don't care if it's only a couple minutes". Fuck me he did!! And it wasn't a couple min but he fucked me hard for a little while, his stamina is amazing! Going in so deep, it was hard to not scream. I was pretty sure the clinic was empty but didn't want to take the chance of someone running into the office. Muffled sounds came out of me as I covered my mouth. He pounded me hard and deep and I felt as he cock began to shoot his hot cum. He grabbed me by the hips, pulled me and pushed to get his cock as far in as he could. His cock contracted inside me with every shot and filled my pussy up. My body relaxed as I took a deep breath. He pulled out, I turned around, gave him my phone and asked him to take a pic. I sat down on my chair, spread my legs wide open with one leg supported on top of my desk and the other in the air. He took the first picture and then told him to take another one close up of my pussy, I spread it open and he came in closer smiling. He took the second shot. I grabbed my panties and put them on quickly, I wanted to save as much as I could for Dave. I pulled Jay closer and took his cock, softened up just a bit, but still tasted so good. I clean him up really well. Looked up and told him take one more with your cock fully in my mouth. He obeyed without hesitation. I pulled back, took my phone from him. He pulled up his pants and he said, "I won't hold you back, it seems like you have a delivery!" I sure did, I grabbed my purse and we walked out together. Said until next time and I got in the car. I looked at the pics and immediately sent them to Dave and started driving. A couple minutes later he responded - GOOD GIRL I got home, he was waiting for me once again this time in the kitchen. He kissed me and led me over to the counter where he picked me up and sat me on top. He spread my legs with both his arms as I reached back to support myself, Dave took off my panties. I could tell they were soaking wet with pussy juices and cum. He admired my pussy for a second before he slowly lowered his head, stuck his tongue out and starting at the bottom he licked, putting his tongue far into my pussy and finishing up at my clit. He rose and with a tongue full of cum and pussy mixture, he kissed me. I could taste his mouth; the smell of sex transferred on to him was intoxicating. He led me down off the counter and walked into the couch, on the way clothing coming off. He laid me down and got on top without much hesitation his hard cock slid in me. He slowly fucked me for a while, long, deep forceful strokes. It was a soft yet purposeful way he took me. He stared at my eyes as they rolled back with pleasure. Did not take long to orgasm and he followed soon thereafter. This time, he pulled out and with a couple strokes of his cock the first stream of cum shot up to my neck, with the remaining streams falling and splashing down on my tits and finally on my stomach. I was completely lost in her stories. It was like a movie, a porn but still a movie! I was completely sure my panties were soaked through to my pants. I told Jessica I wanted to be just like her. She laughed and said she can teach me everything! Somehow, we went through the rest of lunch and without even noticing it had been over an hour we sat and talked. We got up and walked over to the parking lot. I wanted to see Jessica again and maybe even meet Dave at some point, but didn't want to bring it up. Not meeting him anyway, but I did say that I can't wait for the next time we could meet. Jessica said she'd love to see me again as well and get more comfortable. She invited me over to her house for drinks the following weekend. I thought it too long to wait, but it would be completely worth it! Read the next chapter at: My Journey Into The Lifestyle - Chapter 5 - No Turning Back, I Love Women Read the Previous Chapters My Journey Into The Lifestyle - The Beginning My Journey Into the Lifestyle - Chapter 2 - Self Discovery My Journey Into The Lifestyle - Chapter 3 - Soft Feeling of a Woman
  13. 1 point
    Mrs Doc doesn't like to floss while giving a BJ so initially, I trimmed close because I absolutely LOVE her blowjobs. After our first toe dipping experiences into swinging 15 years ago, we noticed that most couples we saw were at least trimmed. I shave cock, balls and pubic area clean twice a week. Mrs Doc shaves but leaves a landing strip. We prefer our partners that way as well and we've found that it does tend to eliminate any lingering mustiness.
  14. 1 point
    I have intimidated men, but not with my sexual past.
  15. 1 point
    Looking back we did move fast. I’m sure it looks from my posts that everything went perfectly. There were bumps from the very start. Some of it was my guilt complex. Funny it led to marriage lol. You can say my cheating on him and then letting him be with my girlfriend led to us talking about our relationship. Talk led to marriage. All of our play was based on my friends. He went along with my wants. He had no place to discuss what we were doing. He begged me to let him tell his closest friend. I said absolutely not. Again it was my guilt that gave in. It led to much more with him. It was much easier doing it with guys not in my everyday life. My first time with him is burned in my brain. I can’t say I wanted him in that part of our lives. I needed to put myself in my husband’s head. I was controlling our play. He had fun for sure. I think I took something away from him. I shared my husband he wanted to share what we have with someone who meant something to him. Don’t get me wrong, I liked our friend very much. I had to wrap my head around that he is in our everyday life. And it’s not that my husband needed to watch me have sex, he had watched for a year. Ingrained in my memory I was not very active that first time. He was very nervous even if he was encouraged. From that first time things changed. I got very comfortable. I used to say my husband was happy because he knew where I was when he traveled. Yes I feel safe when he stays. We are not poly like you. I don’t have two husbands, I don’t have two lovers. We do have a special bond that is too complicated to explain.
  16. 1 point
    You and your husband have accomplished in a much shorter time what took me a several years to achieve. You have my admiration. Your husband's friend may not be your lover, but I'm sure that your husband feels more secure having him there than you being alone. And the same for him/her/you. Something could happen to anyone of us at anytime, and it is best not to be alone. I find it even more important now that we have children to have a family of more than just a husband.
  17. 1 point
    My husband has encouraged me to have his friend stay over when he travels for business. He asked why would I want to be alone at nights. He doesn’t stay as often as he first did even if we do enjoy our nights together. He is not my lover, he is a very good friend who I have relations with. I also have a girlfriend that stays over. My husband has a woman that he sleeps with on business trips. I am happy he isn’t alone all the time when he’s away.
  18. 1 point
    Overnight stays solo are not on the table for us, although we've talked about it being a possibility with the two couples we both know and play together with fairly regularly. A little too much intimacy for separate play as far as we're concerned.
  19. 1 point
    I have made trips overseas to spend time with old boyfriends. However, I recognize that this can be dangerous. I have definitely rekindled strong feelings towards them. My husband and I have to work very hard to maintain and gore our primary relationship with each other.
  20. 1 point
    Well thank you for all the posts. Where it stands now we wrote her a short email basically saying we are sorry she feels that way about our lifestyle but hope that in the future she can accept it and that we have enjoyed her as a friend. She responded by saying such a short email proves to her that my wife hasn't changed and won't change so that basically she doesn't want to be friends anymore. I guess all in all this is the way things should be, this friendship seems to be getting toxic. Secondly for those of you asking about the pictures. The pictures are not on a lifestyle website. They are on a normal social networking site and only my wife's friends are able to view them. We have since made the restrictions even more. Additionally, the pictures are nothing more than us dancing and having cocktails. There is no skin shown or anything raunchy
  21. 1 point
    I tend to agree with LikeMinds here.. expecting that you will go on forever as friends is expecting a LOT out of people. I think a few pieces of information would be helpful here... 1. How long have you all been friends? 2. How did they end up finding out about your lifestyle 3. Is this a vanilla site that you are posting swingery pics on (it sounds like it). From the way the email was worded I'm guessing MySpace or even Facebook (or something similar). The truth is when you come out to your friends you have to expect that you will lose some of them. A real friend/ a best friend that is really your friend should (in an ideal world) love you no matter what. But, what you have to ask yourself is how good of friends were these people really? Did you purposely come out to them because you really thought they were THAT good of friends? or did they find out accidentally? If you did not intentionally tell them then I'm guessing the reason for not doing so is the same reason most of us don't share this side with our vanilla friends... because we don't expect them to accept it. Somewhere in the back of your mind you had an idea that if they found out they might react this way. LM pointed out that you are young (24 I believe she noted, from other posts), so I'm guessing your friends are in your same age range. Unfortunately, at that age people THINK they know who they really are... but are really just learning. I say that because I still remember what it was like at that age... and I can look back now and know the truth of where I really was. We are all pretty idealistic at that point. You are no exception and neither are your "friends". She obviously had an idealistic view of you and your wife and now the you that she thought you were is not the true you. She says you've lost sight of the real you... the truth is that she never knew the TRUE you to the extent that she thought she did (although she does admit that you were always more open-minded than she is) and she is now angry to realize that and she feels like she's been duped into believing you were someone that she created in her mind. As for how to respond. I think that comes down to your decision as to whether or not you want to attempt to keep them as friends. If you don't, then I'd go with Its'so's response. If you do want to keep them as friends then I would latch onto that one key piece of what she said... that your wife was always more open minded than she is. Go with that. It honestly sounds to me from reading her email that she is trying to wrap her mind around what you guys are doing and somehow thinks that now that is all you are and therefore completely not the people she thought she knew. I think it's important to remind her / them that you are still the same people that they knew before. You just happen to have a hobby that they don't share. They may not find it morally acceptable and that's ok, it becomes up to you to explain that you do. They can either accept you as you are, or they can move on. Let them know that you want them in your life if they want to be there, but if they are going to continue to judge you (which they are doing) then you won't put up with it. There is no reason that this needs to be even be an issue between you or come up in conversation again after this is settled. The messages you got remind me a lot of the discussions (via phone and email) between my mom and I when I accidentally outted myself to her almost 10 years ago. We went back and forth in a similar manner (including her discussing it with my at the time husband) and our basic response was "we are adults this is what we have chosen". Eventually, the topic was completely dropped and has NEVER been discussed again.
  22. 1 point
    Agree 100%. Don't get nasty or defensive, or again, feel the need to defend your choices.
  23. 1 point
    A reply like that would certainly make you feel good in the moment. A bit of venting, a bit of retribution, a bit 'sticking it to her'. Unfortunately it would also just feed into the drama. It's not going to make her rethink anything, it's going to make her respond with even more passive aggressive 'non-judgmental' behaviour. She'll play the victim, she will talk to all your friends about how she tried to support you as a friend in a non-judgmental way and you responded in an aggressive manner that used to be "out of character". I'd also expect she would start to let slip your swinging as well, as further signs that "you've changed". That's a bit of mind-reading there. Might not happen, but a response like that would increase the likelhood of a situation like that manifesting itself. Much better to either not respond, or to respond in a nice way. It won't feel as good to you, but it's better for you.
  24. 1 point
    I certainly agree with the majority here and my reaction would be to send a stiff little reply saying something along the lines of "Thank you for revealing yourself as judgmental, narrow-minded and intrusive, otherwise I might have continued to think you were someone I might want as a friend." However, if you are at all desirous of keeping a relationship with this person, you need to go into educator mode. She's taking the standard morality of our culture, judging you and coming up shocked. You can't really say "don't judge me" because that's already happened. All you can do (and I stress, you don't NEED to do this and she doesn't sound worth saving to me, but you may wish to try) is get together with her (I wouldn't try this over email) and express that you understand that she might be shocked, but you'd like to explain some things. Then give her a summary of the swinging ethics and rationale, as well as a chance to ask questions. On the plus side, this gives you a chance to salvage the friendship and expand her world view. It also makes you the much better person. On the minus side, it's annoying and she might end up even more upset than before (you've THOUGHT about this horrible betrayal of marriage and decided it was OKAY!!!!). But I did want to point out the option. Mrs. Ivory, who wants every situation to be a learning situation.
  25. 1 point
    Part of me wants to agree with you but I think the reality is that a lot of people will be taking hikes around you if that is really how you conduct your affairs. (I dont' mean you you knb, I mean people in general) Unfortunately this isn't just a vanilla phenominon either, people in the lifestyle will judge and disavow you too for your lifestyle activities. There are people that are actice swingers themselves that will decide at some point that you swing "too much" or "too little" and will turn their backs. People have lost friendships over swinging too much or swinging with the wrong crowd or with the wrong color or because they screw single males or because they don't screw singles etc etc etc etc - the list can go on forever. It may be wrong and it may not be fair but everyone judges and everyone is judged by others. When someone does something or becomes something that someone else finds distastefull they will severe the ties whether it makes sense to anyone else or not. My question still stands to the OP, How was this gal able to see your pictures? The reason I ask is any pictures you put up anywhere is your billboard and people will judge you based on what they see and even though that picture may be a nanosecond frozen in time out of your life that is what they are going to base their perception of you on.
  26. 1 point
    Ouch, I sure that had a little sting to it and perhaps even A LOT of sting to it. the first thing I have is a question, if she is so saintly where is it she is seeing your pictures???? Anyway, here are a few thoughts. Some people do find some things morally objectionable and are so turned off by them that they cannot continue a relationship. As an example if I found out one of my friends was a child molester I would not be able to morally rectify that enough to maintain a relationship with that person no matter how much enjoyed that person up untill the time I found out. Unfortunately some people hold swingers in almost as high esteem as child molesters and murderers etc etc. From the tone and the terms this gal used I would say that she finds the whole concept of swinging totally distastefull and offensive and her opinion of you is now in the gutter. In reading her message I get the tone that she is saddened that you are not what she perceived you to be and that she is not able to morally rectify her distaste for your swinging activities and allow herself to maintain a friendship with you. That is her call and there really isn't anything you can do about it to change her views. Her views may change over time as her own life and her own moral beliefs and values change but that is out of your control. This is one of the realities and one of the facts of life of the lifestyle. some people find it offensive and distastefull. This is exactly why so many people value privacy and discretion so dearly. Friendships can be lost over it. Anyway, my advice is don't argue, don't get mad and above all don't try to change her mind or her values. As she expressed how she felt about your activities but did not appear to try and get you to change your beliefs or behaviours I think it is fair for you to express that you are saddened by the loss of her friendship and companionship but as she did not try to change your moral beliefs you should not try to change hers or attempt to defend yourselves or defend your decisions made as consenting adults. You could say you are saddened by the loss of her friendship but understand that some people will not understand or agree with your lifestyle choices. I would also state that you will leave the door open for any future correspondence should she ever have a change of heart and then leave it at that.
  27. 1 point
    I like the advice of just a short, simple response. Don't go into details trying to defend your decisions of entering this lifestyle. After all, they were YOUR decisions, not hers. Then just give her some space. She'll have to decide if the friendship is worth overlooking, not necessarily accepting, your choices. The ball is in her court. A true friend will overlook your decisions in the lifestyle. They don't have to agree with them, but they respect you enough to stay out of that part of your life and keep the friendship where it belongs.
  28. 1 point
    "Advice on where to go from here with this?" I would send a short reply saying: "We will both miss both of you". And that would conclude the message. Signing it is optional.
  29. 1 point
    I think the belief that you should be "friends no matter what" is unrealistic in life and I'm always perplexed by how many people think this. There are always reasons for a friendship to end. Not all friendships are meant to last forever. Yes, she is judging you, and it is okay for her to do so; saying she is "not one to judge" is silly, but people are so hung up on being nonjudgmental that they often feel compelled to add that overused statement to their criticism. Right now, you are probably judging her...what kind of person she is, whether you want to remain friends, etc. We make judgments in life based on the knowledge we gain, and from there we make decisions based on our judgments. From reading your other posts, I know that you and your wife are both about 24 years old. You have many years ahead of you and new friends will be made. Even though you are the godfather of this woman's child, I encourage you not to let it get in the way of how you handle your friendship with her. Don't feel obligated to maintain a friendship that may no longer be healthy. I think this woman is both surprised by what she discovered about you and maybe even a bit envious. The last thing I recommend is telling her to "shut up." That would only make matters worse for you. Make her angry and she is likely to say horrible things about you to others in your community. From reading your prior posts you sound like a mature, level-headed couple. Use that to your advantage and be diplomatic in your communication with her. Your anger is understandable, but you don't need to let her see it. Since I don't know the depth of your friendship I can't tell you what you should say to her. What I would say to my friend would depend on whether I felt it was time to break off the friendship. If so, I'd keep my e-mail succinct, I'd not go into my personal beliefs about swinging, or my relationship with my spouse, or how we play, or moral issues. I'd stay away from hot topics and would close the discussion down as quickly as possible. Please keep us posted on your thoughts and how things go. Good luck.
  30. 1 point
    They don't pay your bills or write your paycheck... It's your life, live it the way you want to.
  31. 1 point
    It sounds like your friend had an 'image' in her mind of your wife being someone to look up to and as someone to strive to be like. The fact that she has a child while unmarried yet acts this way sort of makes sense in light of this. Your wife was the what she wanted to be, instead of who she was. Now your wife does something she doesn't understand and completely shatters that image your friend had of your wife. She is trying to 'save' your wife in such a way that can reestablish your friends mental image of your wife. It is sort of like hero worship when you figure out your hero is 100% human. My guess is she now angry with herself for that hero worship and being what most weak minded people do when they are angry with themselves, she will take it out on and blame your wife for ruining her perfect illusion.
  32. 1 point
    I don't know where to go, but she is judging you regardless of her statement otherwise. Just this quote alone highlights that: "some where along the lines, you lost sense of who you really are". That quote taken by itself could be non-judgmental. But, when put in the context of all the comments about morality and swinging, yeah she's judging you alright. Generic advice; A person when faced with something they can not change has two choices. They can either (a) adapt or (b) remove it from their lives. This person might be trying to do the latter, but in a somewhat polite way. For your own part, you have a choice too. This person does not approve of you swinging, and it's obvious it'll be a catching point between you. You can't expect her to be more accepting of you two as swingers. You can decide to either remain friends or choose not to. If you do decide to remain friends, I'd make it clear that your swinging activities are not up for discussion. You don't ask her to participate, and there's no reason for her to be concerned or otherwise even aware of your activities.
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