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Us (Lora, Claire and me in our poly family) too. That's why as our family added women (at first it was just me and the two guys) and we all entered our thirties we women had to add a boyfriend - two guys can no longer satisfy three women.

Agree somewhat, but in swinging play - a cuckold has agreed to his role and the (accompanying) humiliation. The humiliation is his "kink" and the wife is not necessarily cheating. I think of it as hotwife with humiliation on the side. As with many terms - their meaning can shift -depending upon the context.

Thank you all for the advice. I really appreciate it. I was thinking it wouldn’t be a great idea for us from a relationship sense, but was trying to spice things up and give him a new memorable experience, but I do think I’ll hold off for now, ans try to bring up some ideas when we’re chatting one day and see what comes up for both of us. I appreciate it again!

Until the two of you can openly talk about what your fantasies are, then you are not ready to try and act out any of them. Love, trust, communication (I've said it a thousand times), you can't have too much of any of the three and the more you get of any one, the more the other two grow. Talk to him and be ready to lay some of your secrets out into the open (start small and work your way from there). Ask him how he would feel about a threesome...both MFM AND FMF. As far as jealousy goes, the more you communicate, the less jealous seems to enter the picture. It all starts with talking so get started. Let us know how things are going and good luck.

I was just wondering how the women here who've done gangbangs felt after their first one. My first big gangbang was with another woman and we had 12 guys show up. It was pretty intense for both of us because we may have overestimated the number of guys we could take. It was really difficult for both of us because we each played with all 12 guys and we both did anal. There were times during that night when we thought we couldn't take any more. Afterwards I had a mix of emotions. I was exhausted but after about an hour I felt a sense of calmness and peace. It might sound strange but I was really proud of myself. What really surprised me was that before the night was over I was feeling horny again and played with some of the couples who had come to watch our gangbang.

I read an article in Slate magazine several years ago about why men's dicks have heads - it to scoop out the previous guys cum. Experiments were done with artificial semen, real vaginas, and dildos with and without heads. "The study of sperm competition in humans, though, is fairly new. In a study published in 2003, researchers at the State University of New York-Albany used a variety of dildos, artificial vaginas, and a homemade semen recipe to test whether the penis might be elegantly designed not only to deposit semen in the vagina, but also to remove it. The researchers speculated that when a man has sex with a woman who has recently slept with another man, the first man's semen is pulled out with the second man's penis (because it gets caught behind the second man's coronal ridge, which separates the head of the penis from the shaft). This lends meaning to the term "sloppy seconds": Sex the second time around is sloppy, because the semen that is removed ends up, well, making a mess. "The researchers found evidence to support their hypothesis: Dildos featuring a coronal ridge, like a real penis, displaced 91 percent of semen that got there first. Dildos without ridges displaced only 35 percent.... That the human penis might have evolved as a semen displacement device is "not an outrageously ridiculous idea," says Todd Shackelford, an evolutionary psychologist at Florida Atlantic University. Size, too, may matter here—the longer a man's penis is, the more likely it is to deposit semen out of reach of other men. Of course, if a man has sex with a woman twice in quick succession, then there is the risk that he will displace his own semen. But researchers believe that men have evolved ways of preventing this from happening—for instance, men usually need to "recover" for a few hours between orgasms [Petra note - the "Coolidge Effect," however, shows that a man recovers much more quickly when presented with a different woman], and they rarely continue to thrust after they ejaculate. Both of these behaviors help keep men from accidentally removing their own goods." The full article can be found at Men, women, passion, and sperm. - By Melinda Wenner - Slate Magazine So the desire and behavior is evolutionary - if some guy is fucking your partner, you want to get in there quickly afterwards, remove his semen and deposit yours, so you perceive it as "Hot."

We enjoy MFM and have had several positive experiences all of them at clubs.My wife does sometimes find it a little intimidating during the first few minutes and thinks she would like to try starting out in the room alone with the second guy.She finds it a little intimidating initially. Her thought is she would be more relaxed if she could start out one on one with him and then have me walk in while she is already into it. I don't disagree with her there is always a little stress initially for all participants. My question is has anyone tried this if so what was your experience was it the same better or did it kill the mood?

Bob Dylan and Paul Simon on September 11, 1999 at the Memphis Pyramid. I was young and it was a long time ago.

I have always defined a gang bang as three dicks or more. Two dicks is a threesome so since it already has a name I do not include it. I have participated in a couple but it is also not my thing. I like a connection, I don't care for being treated like a hole. Ewww.

My wife and i have been swingers for 10 yrs plus. She is what u call a hotwife. A true slut. She fucks lots of men and i love it. Nothing turns me more than to watch her walk in the room with her short skirt on knowing she just fucked a guy and seeing his cum drip down her legs. I get so hard so fast i can't help but fuck her before it drips all out. I also love to eat another man's cum out of her as well. Point is.. There are a lot more men that like this then i think will admit to.

Sounds like the classic hot wife scenario. I am quite sure you have a lot Of boundrees and rules already in place. A couple of major things. communicate, Trust, And make sure she reconnects with you When she gets back. Even if it's just holding each other for 15 minutes

Sounds like you want to set up your fantasy - not his... Bad idea - all around.

Having hubby fuck another woman was better, much better than I expected. The thing that made it possible for me to overcome my jealousy was that I chose the girls; it gave me a sense of control. The two great things about it was that the jealousy became my friend and made my relationship and sex with my husband was better than ever. It also eventually brought out my Lesbian side which has proven to be both emotionally and sexually fulfilling. It was a bit of a slow journey, however. At first I didn't even get to watch them; later I watched but didn't participate; then I participated but no girl-girl play; finally, full-on Lesbian. Different women have different interests. It will be different, not better. Be prepared, however, for him to want to play with his new toy often in the beginning. That troubled me at first, but I was more disappointed when he began to lose his intense interest in her. I found another girl.

Everyone is correct. You have to talk about it first. This is not a good project to spring on someone unless you want to see them storm out.

Um yeah. I agree. Don't do that I am of the opinion that you guys need to talk first..... sitting across from each other at the kitchen table type of talk. NOT pillow talk! To be really successful in an open relationship you both have to realize that you need to give up the last thing that you could have kept secret, your sexual fantasies as well as your reaction to them. Swinging can be the greatest thing the two of you can share. Or it can burn your marriage to the ground. In many cases it's the man who brings up the idea (not in our case lol) but there are tons of articles written about how to propose swinging to your partner.

With him not on board this will likely blow up in your face. You’re comfortable being with another man but not so okay with another woman. It’s a common double standard that works when couples have clearly communicated what will work for their dynamic. Sometimes the fantasy is better than the reality. My advice is to find some way to spice up your sex life with the two of you. The big C in swinging is communication. Also very helpful in everyday life. How would you feel if he tried to plan a threesome with another woman, especially as some kind of surprise?

So I travel for work a lot, I'm gone a couple days every week, and I am absolutely fine with my husband spending the night with other women or couples while I am gone. I often pick up men or sometimes women when I am away so why would I deny him the same privilege. We have a few regular couples we spend time with and I know my husband often will meet up with one of them, especially our friends Adam and Julie. You might characterize us as being in a polyamorous relationship with them. Before recently James invited Julie over to spend the night often. Currently Julie and Adam are in between houses and are actually staying with us.

My husband and I recently tried an idea we found on the forum, picking someone up at a hotel bar. Last week we (I) met two young men, staying at a local hotel for business, and went back to their room for some fun. My husband just watching. After this experience we were talking and Michael, my husband asked if I ever wanted to pick up a black man. He asked me this not in a racist way. I know my husband well and neither of us are racist at all. We all know the stereotype stories of the big black penis. I have to admit I am not that experienced in seeing black men naked. Michael has probably seen many more naked men then I have in his gym. I think I surprised Michael when I told him I have actually had sex with two black men way before we met. He did want to know why I never told him. It just never came up and like most couples, we all have a past and I just never thought it was important. I asked him how he would feel watching me with someone. Now, we have watched many xxx snippets of interracial couples and have joked about the size of some of the guys. He answered that if I wanted to do it he thought it would be exciting to watch us. I asked him if he would be interested in meeting a black woman. His answer was one word. Asian. It seems he has always had a desire to be with an Asian woman. Then I asked about Halle Berry and he smiled. His answer was that would not mind being with a black woman but his real fantasy was an Asian woman. I really didn't understand or knew of his desire. I asked him if he knew what he was looking for, he couldn't answer. We googled Asian women and he is right, many are gorgeous women; duh, just like any race. Good looking and not good looking. I just never knew he had this attraction. So now we are learning more about ourselves. I learned about his fantasy and he learned that I dated black men before him. I guess it is natural that he has asked me about the penis size of the men. I assured him that he is fine and not to worry and we will always go home together. Does anyone know a couple in the LS that is interracial Black/Asian who wants to meet a white couple in NJ? LOL

Picking up men and women in hotel bars is my specialty lol.

So, I enjoy that I can take my time and there is no hurry to get to the orgasm, when one guy finishes there's a backup dick to finish the job. I like having a backup dick.

Cheating is and will never be swinging. Swinging is all about love, trust and communication. If any of the three are missing, it won't work. First step is to start improving all three...interesting side effect of that will be that once one thing improves, it will spill over to the other two. Make your relationship rock solid first, then start to move forward. That you are thinking about cheating is not a good place to start from. Once the relationship is strong, then start talking about your fantasies...in, and more importantly, out of the bedroom. Don't go any faster than the slowest of you is comfortable with. Set your rules and NEVER violate them (it damages the trust part). Keep talking and never forget how great it is that you have a partner that you can talk to about anything (especially this). Keep in mind that some people are just not wired for swinging, and trying to force them will destroy the relationship. If they can't do it, then they might never be able to do it and you need to be willing to honor their decission. With most guys, the sticking point is usually trust (aren't I good enough for her? Why is she wanting someone else? Ect.) Communication will improve the trust, and trust will increase the love. Take your time and enjoy the ride as much as the destination. Good luck, and don't try to force things.

Here is my standard, canned answer to this question: I advise you to take the mojoupgrade.com quiz with your SO. You both answer questions independently about your sexual desires, then the site matches what both of you are interested in. Even if your SO answers that s/he is not interested in group sex, this is a wonderful and non-threatening way to begin the discussion.

There is one at the local club in Columbus OH and we love to use it. It's a jail theme where theres jail bars where people can watch and one party is behind a wall. This is one of our favorite areas of the club

You should marry that woman.

It's not the "center of attention" thing that is good about MFMs, it's that I can get 4 penis-in-vagina orgasms out of two guys. And lots of semen inside of me. Sometimes it's fun to be greedy and get it all to myself.

Exactly.

So I said I would never do this. I was out with some friends the other night and my wife had her male friend over our house. I wasn't sure if they would play or not since things have gotten more vanilla with him lately. He was gone by the time I got home, and they did play. I was jerking off while my wife told me the details... next thing I couldn't resist and stuck in in her for sloppy seconds!!

There needs to be but I don't know of a specific term. Other than 'pig' (a married man wanting to sleep with women other than his wife is usually called a pig)

Not in our wheelhouse. To me, sleeping with someone is far more intimate than having sex.

I would say a gangbang is anything more than 4 guys and a women. By the way my wife loves gangbangs.

Trician he was very big. Almost too big and I remember being scared. It goes back to when I was a sophomore. I wasn't totally a "goodie" when I went to school but I learned to enjoy when I could. The whole big thing happened when I was with some friends and we were talking about the guys we had been with. It was funny that we had more in common than we knew. I guess it was normal because we all knew the same people on campus. Then the convo turned to size and one of my friends asked about the boy I was dating. And she held her fingers together knowing he was small. I didn't want to agree but she said she "knew" and that she could never date someone like that. He was a real good looker and before I met him he was always with gorgeous girls. I was excited when we first met but maybe why he never kept a girl was because his size. He WAS small, I admit. Anyhow the talk turned to someone we knew who was the opposite. I didn't know him that well but I knew who he was. My friend Rhonda said he was hung bigger than a horse. She knew. Of course we all joked about it trying to guess how big. She said probably a foot, bigger than her arm, the biggest thing she could think of. Of course we joked and thought she made it up and she said I should ask another girl we knew. We had some other laughs about other guys and wondered if she was telling the truth and if she did would I really want that. The other girl that was mentioned was a very petite girl and I would never had thought she would be with someone big, but I saw her and asked her. She asked me how I knew and that it was true. Eventually I did hook up with him and it was the biggest thing, bigger than I could have imagined. He made fun of me, being a white girl and never experiencing a "real" man. Did it hurt? Yes even though he didn't push, I controlled it. He would do oral on me so the only lube was from my saliva on him. How big? My hand just about went around it and I remember trying to measure and took me four hands to get to the top. I know that sounds too big but he had to be at least 12 inches. I only was with that once. Me on top, so I could control and then he did it from behind which took by breath away. I still have the memory though that night I thought I was going to die from being so sore. The movies are accurate that you watched.

Mike wants to watch me with a very large man. He said that the visual of an interracial meeting just turns him on. Since we spoke about it he has searched for huge black men with white women movies. I keep telling him that not all men are that size just like white men. The two men I met were normal size. Cplnluv you were with what you said was very big. How big? How did you know he was going to be very big before you met? And most important, was it uncomfortable? I know this may sound stupid because I have children but the movies we watched looked painful. I am not totally convinced about the size thing but have no problem with any color.

Our first MFM was also with an ex boy friend of mine. For me, it made the situation a lot more comfortable. All three of us had a great time, and we have gone on to have many, many MFM's. Good luck.

We didn't have fluffers at the gangbang that I posted about earlier. There were a number of couples there to watch but one of the rules was that they wouldn't play with the gangbang guys until after the gangbang. We didn't want their attention wandering elsewhere. After a while I found that a good rhythm was getting dp'd while doing oral on a third. The other guys just had to keep themselves entertained until it was their turn. I don't think any of them really minded but I did hear several of them tell the guys who were getting serviced that they wanted to cut in for a while. For the most part the guys were pretty cooperative with each other and it worked out.

On the other hand, what I found when trying to set one up was that (like most parties) only about 2/3 of those you invite show up. My first attempt at a GB, only one guy showed up... so not so much a gangbang. I think I had invited 4 or 5 (wanting to keep it right around that number). When I finally managed to do it later, I ended up with a few more guys that I really needed. By the third try I got it right and invited a couple of extra girls to help even things out. Fluffers are a necessity of any gangbang (that would be extra girls there to keep the guys hard and happy while they are waiting for their turn with you). I'm guessing the most any girl can really handle on her own without help is 4 (1 mouth, 2 hands, and 1 in either her pussy or her ass - but I don't see most women managing both of those and still handling the other 3). To answer the original question, how did I feel afterwards? a little sore, a little annoyed at the guy who got pissy because he had to wait his turn, but overall happy that I got to fulfill my fantasy.

Years ago, at a club, I had sex with four different guys, one after the other. I've got to say, after four, I was tired and sore but, I did have a smile on my face (that my husband teased me about the smile lasting too long).