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Seasoned and sophisticated... yes ... that’s us ?

" If you can't remember when Hotel California was a #1 hit then we prolly don't have a whole lot in common...." (I prefer the acoustic version, BTW.) I used to think that. Then I got into a program at Pitt where I audited college classes. I talked with the kids, drank with them, got to be friends with them. I leaned from them too, and once we'd thrown the age difference away they asked a lot of questions about what I'd gone through in my life. If you try, you'd find a lot in common with those folk, I think.

I don't watch Porn either, I am porn! ????

Please reach out to us. We would be happy to talk to you about anything online. I am ~2 months shy of 60. After covid I would suggest finding a local meet and greet. We have found it to be a great way to meet like minded people. Age is a number and while that may sound cliche, it's been our experience. I was surprised at the age difference of people who we have had a mutual attraction too. It really isn't all about the looks ?. And sometimes it's all about the sex. Which is just fine too. If you can't remember when Hotel California was a #1 hit then we prolly don't have a whole lot in common....

Experienced late-40s couple here with a lot of MFM experience. We would recommend finding a quality SM, getting covid tested (and std tested) then riding out the pandemic as a closed threesome. Works for us!

And sophisticated. ?

“Swinging” does not equal “lifestyle”… The terms “lifestyle” and “swinging” are often used interchangeably; but I think of them differently. To me, “lifestyle” is a broad term that includes many forms of erotic expression: voyeurism, exhibitionism, cross-dressing, kink, swinging, etc. In other words, swinging is a subset of the very broad, lifestyle. What is swinging then? Consensual, non-monogamy is at the heart of swinging. The consent is between the couple that have the societal expectation of being in a monogamous relationship. The couple could be m/m, f/f, m/f… So, by my definition (and this will rile some folks) – a single person cannot be a ‘swinger’. They can be in the lifestyle, they can play with swingers to be sure – but they are not swinging per se, because they are not consenting with another person in their committed relationship to play outside of their relationship. Society has no expectation that they be monogamous in the first place. So, is a hotwife a swinger? Absolutely! She is in a relationship that has the expectation of monogamy. She also has the consent of her husband to play outside of the relationship. His presence to the play is not key issue – his knowledge and consent is. Without his consent – she is simply cheating. If she is single, she is just a girl who knows how to have a good time.

We both are bi, and enjoy watching each other in a bi-bi situation. Do you share this?

The fact that sex exists and is pleasurable beyond menopause is proof that God wants us to use and enjoy that aspect of our physical beings.

Finding men for a MFM (and I've said it before) is easier than finding a cheeseburger at McD's...can't throw a rock without hitting one. Finding RESPECTFUL men, well, that's like finding the $1 cheeseburger at McD's (at least in our area...just when did the Happy Meal price go over $5?). Not quite as many other there. The good news is you can just block the bad ones and keep looking. It's a numbers game, you just need to keep crunching the numbers until you find exactly what you want (and with so many other there, you should be able to find an exact match if you keep looking and don't compromise on what you are looking for). As for finding someone to talk with on the board, pick anyone who responded to this thread, I think they would be happy to talk.

For us ... we seem to be heading down mfm threesome with maybe an occasional one on one for her and our other partner .. is that still classed as swinging ? Marilyn is honest in saying she could never see me with another woman ....

Any act containing the word "forced" is just wrong. You are breaking one of the primary rules of swinging namely everyone has to be on the same page. If you or your partner ever feels pressured into doing something you or they don't want to do then it's wrong. No one in the LS should EVER feel that they have to do something they don't want to do just to satisfy their partner. I would never ask Mrs ID to do something she is uncomfortable with and if someone else was trying to do that to her our encounter with that person would end right there.

Amen to THAT! and more...

I have one for you. What if the shoe was on the other foot? Should we post this in the forum or add it to the discussion here?

We are over 60. Once we met a few key couples who host house parties, we met more couples at the parties. Which leads to more people we know, more parties. All started on SLS. There is some work, some snubs, some wasted time. Clubs are not our thing, but many people like them. We do like cruises and resorts like Desire and Hedo. I sort of wish we started in our 40s instead of our 50s. Things worked better earlier.

Seasoned?

Idk I love being a single swinger, less attachments. As long as I get invites I never feel the need to have romantic relationships. Who knows, I might have a change of heart years down the line.

Well, some request, some want more. Who am I to turn them down??

I frequently swallow. I really do not see the big deal, if a guy blows in my mouth, it is already in my mouth, I've already tasted it, if I was to spit it out there is no way to get it all out some of it gets swallowed regardless. So I swallow it all. Plus, guys think swallowing is sexy and it gets me closer to them being hard again for more playtime.

Same with me and another wife in our group. We share a number of common interests that we don't with our spouses. We travel out-of-town together to pursue those. It's an odd advantage of being swingers with them, there's the freedom to be alone with someone of the opposite sex who is not my spouse, because what could happen? Sex? We already do that in front of ech other.

Midgets. Like Snow White.

I've done a couple, one went horrible and two went ok. I won't repeat it. I'd recomend starting with a mini gang bang before going all out, just to test the waters. It is a lot happening all at once and can be overwhelming, at least it was for me. The level of Communication and control that I need kinda flies out the door when you got 5+ naked guys ready to go. The room can loss control pretty fast as they are all feeding off each others testosterone and bravado. I actually cried uncontrollably after my first one which brought the mood of the room down really fast.

Ignore him/her. If you hold back it deprives the rest of us. I appreciate you posting, thanks.

Hi Guessing you are new on here No. He may have watched me to make sure I wasn’t upset. Definitely not. I did what I was comfortable doing. There was another girlfriend involved so that right away is beyond our normal routine. I don’t think I did anything I was uncomfortable doing. Another state. We have done with others the same we have done at home. Depending on the situation. There are times I have enjoyed one on one with a partner.

Honestly we like the attention, personally I like knowing I've got some guy's attention and that I've turned them on. If I can see I got them hard, I often think that's my boner, I made that. I enjoy showing off my body, I always have. I rarely care about getting caught, after all that's the idea. I think everyone wants to be desired, so that is my goal, make you desire me. It absolutely turns me on, in the moment, I generally get pretty wet, pretty quick. As far as interacting, for me exposing myself is a form of flirting, and if a guy showed me attention thats what I want. So fell free to chat me up.

I agree that most women in the lifestyle are not bi (and I have some lesbian friends who swear to that). I believe most do it for show. A friend (in the lifestyle) was married to a man who was constantly pushing her to do things. First other women, than more than one guy at a time, then anal, etc. She found a man in the lifestyle who respected her and left her husband for him.

I will go with, because they are self centred assholes! No woman needs to do anything they do not want to sexually for any man and they shouldn’t. There are plenty of people out there that would be more then happy to play with them on their terms. As far as we are concerned women hold the power when it comes to sex as much as men don’t want to hear it. The days of men getting what they want when they want from women are long gone. I don’t know why any woman would tolerate it. They can do better.

Sigh . . . I totally agree with your first paragraph. But you go off the rails in the second paragraph, in my opinion. Swinging is when a married couple partake in the LifeStyle together. The most usual type is the foursome, where two couples swap partner. Moresomes and orgies, etc., also fit in the definition of swinging as long as both the wife and husband are having sex with others at the same time. Hotwifing is where the wife has sex with the knowledge and approval of the husband, but the husband does not have sex with others. So Hotwifing is not swinging, but it is another subset of the LifeStyle.

If women are promiscuous, they are called a slut. Men are called studs. I praise women who celebrate their sexuality. They are fully embracing life. No shame about it. Go for it!

I advise consulting with a doctor. There are medications that help with certain problems, such as lubrication. Not everything can be the way they were, but there are things that can heip.

lovefest, you are on the right track. Looking backwards to the whole menopause experience, it was a time of exploration for the two of us. Paradigms shifted and shifted again. Even after decades of marriage we got to know portions of each other that had been obscured by other life issues. Once the whole pregnancy issue was resolved her sex drive went through the roof. It was a time when we ,for the first time had a sex life that was totally unencumbered by the possibility of making new life. ( We always welcomed even anticipated the children. They were not a burden, but they were a consideration.) It was only afterwards they we decided we were free to start opening our marriage to others. It would be fair to say that the whole lifestyle experience grew out of the menopause experience for us. So live through this together. Use it as the new frontier that it is. Afterwards it can and often does get more interesting than before.

My husband originally brought up his "hotwife" fantasy. Asking me to flirt, seduce and sleep with another man. I was pretty reluctant in the beginning but eventually met a guy that really did it for me and I gave my husband his fantasy. It surprised me how well it went for both of us so I started being open to opportunities when they arose. A year after I got downright aggressive about my hookups. I was the one that ended up opening the door to full swaps, my husband was eager to do it, and within a month we had our first full swap. Currently we have a couple that are close friends that we swap with frequently, we also have another two couples we can play with.

Exhibitionism and swinging seem to go hand in hand. When i first met my wife she was working part time as an artists model posing nude for art schools arts groups and private artists - and that TOTALLY turned me on. When i asked if she got a little turned on by the exhibitionism she smiled shyly and confessed "Yes". At that moment i knew i had a keeper!! Regarding whether it's Ok to approach: No. That's a good way to ruin it. Just sit back and enjoy the show.

This has always stuck in my mind like it was just yesterday. The first time we agreed to go bareback with another couple, in a hotel room with two double beds. When I was in missionary with her husband and she in doggy with my husband on the other bed, that moment I felt him flooding in me my eyes must have lit up as I then somehow noticed her look at me - as her husband was ejaculating/finishing inside me, it was like mine and her eyes became entranced looking deep into each others souls it was such a strange feeling of emotions for both of us we could both sense it of the other. I've never had that happen again with other couples.

Nope not a one. They all went bye bye in the quickest way possible. Not my best moment.

The mood of the room went from testosterone fueled high fives to an uncomfortable rush to get dressed and leave.