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We play games on Zoom with 5-7 lifestyle couples that we know. Only one couple has played with anyone else during the pandemic. They were sheepish to admit it and they admitted it was reckless. The rest are waiting for vaccines. The problem is asymptomatic spread. You have no idea what’s coming. And then if you contract an asymptomatic case and go to a supermarket, you can transmit it to an elderly or immunocompromised person for whom it is serious. Masks are not 100%. So even if you are asymptomatic, it can be fatal for your contacts. We want to live to play another day. And the same for others.

Nothing compares with the first man we met and I was alone with while my husband was alone with his wife. Over the years we have been with them over a dozen times and it still excites me just in planning our meetings. We have been with others that have been fun to be with and still I find that first lover the most exciting. There is a new energy with new partners which is exciting and I have enjoyed those experiences, just not the way that first experience did. At first I didn’t want any new experiences as I was content waiting for the next time with the original couple and we discussed if we should expand our adventure. I was completely negative regarding me playing with another woman as it upset me when it was pushed. I needed to explore that scenario on my own terms, I never wanted it to be exhibitionist play for others to gawk at me, including my husband. I did have that new energy alone with another woman with no pressure put upon me to do things. With no pressure I explored and enjoyed in a much different way from being in a couple scene or being alone with her husband.

You make many good points and I (and my wife) empathize and agree with them, especially about alone and multiple partner play. Although I would say that my wife actually has a romantic relationship with both spouses of one couple of the four couples in our closed group, there's nothing wrong with it and it doesn't bother or threaten me. Maybe you're right to just call it a "special thing." Considering how many couples here, together for many years, have trouble navigating the waters of being non-monogamous, I give you much credit. Or perhaps it is because of you and your husband (and your play partners) not having the burden of years already together made you all more flexible.

I was never looking for another M, it was my husband who wanted me to have company when he was away. It is a very good friend that kept me busy and we built up a special thing. Not a love thing at all just a special thing. I can definitely say nothing romantic because it has already been long term. I also didn’t want my gf involved in my crazy world and now we are more like sister close even if she always was. We have all played together, four of us, and plenty of fun when we do yet one on one for me is so different.

That question brings me back to how my life drastically changed, having a threesome with a college girlfriend. At the time I had no bi feelings and no need to have sex with a guy I hardly knew. I had a bf and wasn’t looking to cheat. The only reason I was with them was a snowstorm and the need for a shared hotel room. To this day I’m amazed that I allowed myself to allow my friend and I guess I was being bold to participate. I was more upset I allowed her friend to join, I felt I was cheating on my bf. Since that day my bf became my husband and we have had many threesomes with both guys and girls. He had confided to his best friend and encouraged him to join us. Before Covid that friend would keep me company when my husband traveled for work. We have also played together. I have a girlfriend, my best friend who found out and joined us too. Now with us not meeting others both of these friends are our the ones we play with. If I had my choice, my husband alone first, and then I enjoy one on ones.

We've been swinging for a long time and this past year has been tough. We have tried to figure out how to see other couples while staying "safe". What do you think about clubs and hotels open for business as usual? Seem like super spreader events, no?

Yes.....most certainly. There are many who get together regularly in a tight circle of family and friends in day to day life. Trust and care is taken to insure they do not place any in dangerous situations by stepping outside their circle. the same also happens with many in the lifestyle. Tight closed circle of intimate friends still getting together socially and intimately. Not stepping out of their circle limiting potential contamination. We are part of that as are many others. But clubbing, open parties new meets are all tragically dangerous behavior. A few area groups, parties have tried to start back up....only to close due to no or very limited attendance......a result of the times.....and common sense.

Our first experience was with good friends, and it was so good - if unexpected lol. For us, it gives a sense of safety, respect, and trust none of us would find anywhere else. Plus, it lets us work out the sexual tension that I had to admit had been there for years ?

My wife is a BBW. She has no lack of people wanting to play. You might find a local meet and greet. Or join a swinger site. There is no shortage of single men of every age, shapte, size and build on these sites. I think you will find that it's true swingers are pretty accepting group of people.

We just talked about it and honestly it doesn't matter. I guess we are shallow and uncaring LoL we just like to fuck other people. If you are half way interesting smell good (Mrs ID says) and not pushy we are pretty much good to go. We come to play.

First, thank you for being First Responders. Mrs here, I say everyone should support you and you do whatever you want ?, while many of us are working "remotely" (multitasking work & websites). Sincerely though, we feel the same, and though we know that we are committed and would never hurt anyone, I just don't want to have to explain it. Anyways, your first responder note is what caught my eye. You deserve to have fun and be YOU!!

My opinion is you don’t have to have a perfect body in the swing world. With that said, maybe lower the standards a bit lol. That pic is hot though.

It's weird, but I find these kind of stories romantic. I am sorry to hear that. Why did it happen?

Funny that you say this, since I think that our poly family is easier than conventional swinging. The biggest advantage is that we are a team that is ready to take on whatever challenge arises, with the housework but especially with the children. One or more of us out-of-town, the others fill in; pick up some groceries or the kids on a moment's notice. We women even breast fed each others babies. We don't usually figure out how to divide up our time, we just do whatever it is that needs to be done. Speaking of dividing responsibilities, we did reach the point where Clair quit her job to be the stay-at-home mom, a role that she loves, and that Lora and I are happy to give her. The remaining four of us each give her a fifth of our total earnings, salary/bonuses/options, as compensation. The big difference is the relationships between David and Red, and Lora, Clair, and me. The guys are friends, have a buddy relationship that does not involve romance or sex; Lora, Clair and I are full-on Lesbians for each other. As to sex in general, it is really easy for us - no traveling to clubs, meet-'n'-greets, house parties, etc., just our code phrase, "Hey, you got a couple of minutes?" We are as discreet as possible, and being in the liberal northeast there are a lot of other more interesting freaks for people to talk about than us outward conservatively appearing parents. The big one is the school, but they understand any of us adults has authority and custody over all of the children. We have never given them any drama and they have never given us any problems. Although I will repeat from a previous post that to do the poly family with children mixed among the men and women right involves lawyers, accountants, and insurance people. An advantage that we had is that we started in our early twenties, so this is the normal for us. We started by being in it for sex, but open to romance, which eventually happened.

We are definitely using the same play book! nude = no face pic face pic = no nudity or sex face pic = only private gallery no trading pics thru email/text Keep in mind, even though most lifestyle sites don’t allow you to right click and save an image, pretty much any electronic device will allow a screen capture of some sort.

IMO you are leading him on, I know you are trying to be nice. But you know this is heading for a crash and burn. Just by what you have said I really think you already know that. We really don't have many rules. But the one we we follow religiously is if one of us doesn't like it for whatever reason. It stops then and there. No playing, no texting, sexting or communication. I don't mean that we pretend it didn't happen we will probably talk it to death between each other. IMO you need to block, ignore and cut off this person entirely. You are going to destroy your relationship. We have run into people in our group that one of us can't stand for some reason. And we respect that opinion. Even if we don't agree. We just ignore them. For us this is something fun (ok and naughty) for us to do. If one is uncomfortable then both of us are.

The most stand out event in our lives from swinging was when my wife was pregnant for the third time. She was going to have twins. When they were born, they were two fraternal black boys. We are still not sure who the father is but we don't care. Our lives have been better for having them. There older brothers, who are mine and my wife's, will take ya down if you say anything against them. Their bond is very strong. All four are married. We are very blessed.

When JoAnn casually suggested this, the little devil that sits on my shoulder whispered in my ear, "Don't answer that. You probably left that computer switched on showing that swinger hook-up Website." The angel that sits on my other shoulder whispered, "The truth will set you free." Both whispered at the same time, "don't just sit there. Your silence will condemn you." So I said, kind of like cast member Pete Davidson of Saturday Night Live, "OK."

As I remember, it was something like 'Thank you God! I'm the luckiest man alive'. Actually, we were talking about our past sex lives and her and her ex tried to breathe life into their failing marriage by swinging with their best friends. It didn't work...in fact it made things worse for them, but she also said that she wasn't opposed to the idea of trying it again. That's when we first came onto this board in an effort to find out information and how to do this 'right'. Took our time, but we started from there and it has been a wonderful ride ever since.

I am thrilled just to have sex as my favorite is still the one I have sex with everyday. I know that’s not swinging, it is still pretty great. My wife is the one who started me in the swinging world when she asked me to be with someone else, something I couldn’t refuse. Without being specific it was creepy being watched while fucking someone. My wife continues to set us up with meetings and every time I get to taste and fuck some strange is the ultimate dream and I can’t believe she encourages it. I have never met a new pussy I didn’t want to be in and am looking forward to many more. I am also happy to go back to any repeaters as well.

This goes back and forth with time. We started with people we knew and would see repeatedly, mainly because it gave Mrs. E a lot of comfort about pushing some personal limits. As time has progressed a little bit, and now that we've both been away from it for a while because of the circumstances this year, we're both excited to try new people, although we'll still see our regulars as soon as we can, too. We're both just eager to be social and outwardly sexual again with more bodies, new or familiar. She's gotten more comfortable flirting and sending pics of herself from messing around with Tinder to pass the time while we've been shut down, the single woman we play with wants to have a foursome when the border opens again and her favorite friend-with-benefits can visit again, the married woman I got to be a bull for in February wants to get together again for another solo visit. We both think trying a club or organized party might finally be on the agenda once things open up, although maybe we're all talk as we've always chickened out.

In my travels I have had affairs and one night stands each having its own pluses and minuses. I only had affairs with women I enjoyed being with and I would make arrangements to meet in advance of a trip. The vast majority of these women were married and enjoyed the times we would meet. When things got either routine or complicated I would move on. When in new places or when I had nothing planned there was an excitement of looking and enjoying a new woman. I would think everyone who swings or plays outside of marriage is looking for new experiences. A new body, a new touch, a new movement, a new reaction. No two people will act the same way. My wife has told me she enjoys new men and enjoyed the men who pursued her on cheater sites. For years our marriage was a don’t ask don’t tell relationship. When we decided that talking was fine she told me stories of meeting several men during a week I was traveling, even two separately on the same night. As a woman she had more control of who she would see again and who she wouldn’t. I am thinking we were very much alike in that we enjoyed both.

My feelings have changed over time. When we first started meeting my school friends there was an excitement to see who was going to show up at our tailgate parties and I used to wonder who I might be playing with. I was excited to have a friend approach me as I was not sure how to approach others. It was more like wow they want me and even though I was attracted to others I didn’t approach. My husband on the other hand always approached girls he never met before. He would get me mad when he would say he got new pussy. As I became more comfortable being with my bi side, I started acting like the guys who approached every attractive girl. It was always exciting to see someone who was a good friend back in school was now as bi as I was. There was one party where a guy who was very endowed was the attention of too many of my friends. At first I had no intention of playing up to guy who knew his assets were an attraction and then I fell right in like the others. Then it became a challenge that I succumbed to. I admit it was exciting to be with someone new.

My wife and I discussed this extensively because we both enjoy meeting and having sex with new people, and seeing the other do so. But we decided along with four other couples who feel the same way to form a closed group. It gives us plenty of variety and no worries; bareback all the time, alone play, nothing is prohibited for any of us.

We are mostly looking for friends with benefits so we prefer swinging with people we know...that not to say that it isn't fun to occasionally swing with someone new.

There is something exciting about playing with someone new. I think I have read I am not alone in the excitement of undressing a new man, and the sight of seeing what I am going to find. I usually say size doesn’t matter and then I say it may be when first seeing a new one. Every man reacts differently when we meet. On the other side meeting people we enjoy being with is exciting too just a different excitement. We will only meet a couple a second time if we enjoyed being with them socially and sexually. It needs to be more than just sex.

Us too. Online everything these days but the only problem is the wife can't pick up men at the online casino. Hotwifing at the casino is a popular swinger activity we also enjoy, and this is my wife doing just that from a 2019 Vegas trip...