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It doesn’t bother me if conversations drift. Nice to communicate.

We did not wait until everyone was vaccinated and as a matter of fact none of us are vaccinated today - but we signed up for vaccines and are awaiting our turn. We spent the entire Spring 2020 lockdown self-quarantined. Then in the summer a single male friend reached out to us. Long story short the three of us made a pact to be in a closed group and not play with others. The three of us are careful about mask-wearing, social-distancing and hygene so we feel Ok about getting together. If he was the type to dismiss the seriousness of the pandemic or take a stand against vaccines it would never have worked. We're a little shocked honestly by the numbers of swingers who are cavalier about this virus. We feel your pain about Lifestyle social circles literally vanishing, which is why we value our closed threesome and take care to keep healthy. If we lose him we have nobody and with the way this pandemic spiked this winter it's a bad time to meet new people.

I also don't have a problem with the thread wandering, I was just pointing out the obvious. I am also not a conspiracy theorist and usually tune out when people start talking about them (kook, koo), but the documentary The Social Dilemma actually interviews the people on numerous platforms who flat out say 'yes, we did and do that'. It's all about the money. They want you to click on their links and if the links go against what you are already thinking, you won't click on them. As a result, they give you links, no matter how good or bad they may be, that reflects what you already are leaning towards believing. Please take the time to watch it and them form your own opinion. That's my point: get good data from both sides of the story and form your own opinion. If, after doing that, your opinion is different than mine, I'm okay with that. If you feel like you wasted that hour, I promise that I will give you your hour back.

From my Lesbian side, an up-close picture of a pussy can be a turn on - all those beautify delicate parts like a flower. From my hetero side, dick pix do nothing for me, although I like pictures of nice testicles.

I heard that when singles dump a partner because they do not take enough covid precautions, they have been “Fauci’d,”

Let's be honest... At least in my experience, swingers as a group have always been a little cavalier about health. We have anonymous sex with strangers in the world of AIDS. A significant minority of swingers I know smoke like chimneys and drink far too much. So, I guess I'm not really shocked that in the face of a global pandemic, at least a few of us are looking to get one more orgy in. Personally, I don't smoke, I don't drink, we use condoms and we stopped even looking to go out when the pandemic started but that's us. We're basically nerds.

As long as they're not super closeup we're fine. My wife is not fiercely anti dick pic. She considers one or two dick pics to be a normal part of any guy's online swinger profile. But the one thing that makes her want to puke is when there is a toilet in the pic - and it's amazing how many guys take dick pics standing over the toilet. The other thing she can't stand is when you can see their place is a mess in the background of the shot. Again, amazing how much of that you see too.

Sometimes threads do go off topic, and sometimes we split them, sometimes we don't right then, just sort of depends on the topic, etc. If it is two swinging topics, they will probably be split. If not, probably no split. Sometimes it might be even a good while later when we run up on a thread where it temporarily derailed and on those we might strip out the off topic stuff that is now probably years out of date and leave the never goes out of date original question about "how do I talk to my wife about swinging" or whatever the question was. I look at threads as having two lives. There is the here and now conversational type life that may have some off topic or bantering back and forth about whatever, and then there's the thread's second more focused and more enduring life as a reference source that someone 10 years from now may find useful and informative. Both have value in their own way. In general, we try to use a light hand on here and now conversations since we want people here talking with each other, pretty much why we exist after all

The Cypress Point Club held a membership drive, and drove twenty members out. - Bob Hope

We would love to form (some kind of a) closed group...it's the finding other people who also want to be in it with us that is hard. PLEASE ACCEPT MY RESIGNATION. I DON'T WANT TO BELONG TO ANY CLUB THAT WILL ACCEPT ME AS A MEMBER. - Groucho Marx

If your profession within the healing arts involves examination of genitalia as part of clinical responsibility, you might well be likely to opine that closeups that belong in textbooks...belong in textbooks. We find them socially unappealing.

I like to call it science based.

We used to be members of a swing club that had a gyno room complete with examination chair stirrups and speculums lol. NJ/PA peeps here may know that club. We never played in that room.

Yes, you make some good points. Unfortunately, the available information about what happens post-vaccination is scant. We simply do not yet know the answers to the questions you posed. However, if history is our guide, vaccines have ordinarily provided protection against the further spread of the disease in question. I would imagine that the COVID-19 vaccines will perform similarly. But that is only an educated guess. Today, we simply do not feel comfortable (safe) playing with people who have not been vaccinated. That may change over time...

As soon as people start spouting conspiracy theory websites and information they got from a a friend who knows someone who heard that.... well I am going to ignore it. I want to do everything I possibly can to protect myself and those around me.

We started a chat on an online swing site with a couple. When he started telling me that Soros and Gates controlled everything and covid was a hoax (last year), it was game over. A relative of mine who is a human superspreader (gave covid to four close relatives) gave my father bad advice on taking tylenol before his vaccine. Have no idea where she gets her info. I get Gold’s advice to seek objective sources for info. Some news sources give intentionally bad news because bad news sells.

Doesn't turn me on or off. I guess I'm indifferent on it.

Dick pix should never be allowed...don't care how big (or not) you are, for most women it's the skill not the size (understanding there are a group of women who only care about the size). Most guys posting dick pix are usually dicks themselves and therefore someone we are not interested in meeting. We prefer personality and intelligence more than looks. Ban the dick pic!

Right now a very small percentage of the population has been vaccinated and many people unfortunately are waiting for others to get vaccinated first. The sad part is in order to get herd immunity the big majority needs to agree to get the vaccination. Not getting vaccinated mostly affects the person not getting the vaccine. Science isn’t sure if vaccinated people can pass the virus on, it only protects the person vaccinated from getting overly sick or severely ill. The virus can still live in the body even if vaccinated. We all have our own level of safety and your decision should be based on yours. I’m not smart enough to know how much safer playing with a vaccinated is.

Curious... Have you played since the start of the pandemic? And, if so, Did you wait until everyone was vaccinated? We're in a weird situation because the male half of one of the couples in our circle has decided he's not getting vaccinated. We were collectively shocked by the decision. We've been playing with this couple for over a decade... but it looks like those days have come to a close. Ann is very upset over it because she feels like its the end of our ability to closely socialize with them both inside, and outside, of the playroom. I am very upset, too.

I had to laugh at myself... When I first read this topic, I thought, "I lived in northern Italy... I don't remember any nudist resort in Lake Como...? " Took me a minute to realize you weren't talking about THE Lake Como ? I did an Internet search, and this is the one outside of Tampa, correct?

Thanks for the first shared experience like ?

i think that's how a lot of swingers are getting through covid. We never really considered a closed swinging situation pre-pandemic but we're in one now.

Let me preface everything here by saying this is from the PRE-pandemic perspective. A LOT has changed since then, unfortunately: Yes on the "closed" group. Although we have never taken "blood oaths", we have all agreed to keep things between the partners. So, it is unofficially officially a closed group. Historically, we have participated with a very small, very intimate group of people. We arrived at the conclusion, for our needs, keeping things small had far more advantages than disadvantages: Trust was probably the biggest reason. We know everyone quite well. We know their social habits. We know they can maintain privacy. We know they can act like adults in public, and playful sex dynamos in private. Health is another big reason. Let's face it: Having sex with anyone outside of your normal partner adds a certain health risk. It is a simple, unavoidable biological fact. Limiting our sex partners to a select few helps to minimize the health risks. Everyone is/was STD tested originally. No condoms? No way. The ladies are all beyond childbearing years, but condoms are used, always, always, ALWAYS. Yes, accidents can happen, and they have. But, condoms are always required for play. They can be removed at the point of climax, so long as there is no internal release of semen. Ejaculating internally is strictly off-limits (with the obvious exception of the spouses.) Now, in this new age of COVID-19...? Whew. It adds a very complicated wrinkle. We haven't had any kind of meaningful play contact since it all started early last year...

Well, my wife posted hers yesterday. Here’s mine/ours. We went to visit her folks over Christmas, and always set aside at least a night to visit her best friend from college and her husband. Those two have known each other since college, and her friend has always had a thing for my wife’s tits - talking about them, joking, sometimes touching. My wife had already admitted all that turned her on more than she ever let on. We talked about possibly sharing a year or two ago, and have bought some toys and pretended others were in bed with us / including those friends. We had been drinking wine and talking, then her friend started touching my wife’s hair, face, running her fingers over her breasts. Her husband and I just grinned at each other and watched. Her friend suddenly said WE NEED MORE WINE! We all laughed and my wife went to the kitchen with her to help. Got to admit I was curious after a minute, so I went to the kitchen, too. Nothing was happening, but K told me her friend had kissed her on the cheek a couple of times before going downstairs for another bottle. I could tell she getting turned on, so I took a chance, snuggled her ear a bit and whispered to her that I thought it was time. I got behind her, and when her friend came back up, I lifted K’s shirt and bra and said we think it’s time you did more than just talked about them and touched them through her clothes. Her friend’s eyes got huge and she rushed over, grabbed my wife’s breasts and started squeezing and rubbing, talking about how beautiful and big they are. K was moaning almost instantly, because her nipples are super sensitive. I started kissing and biting her neck and talking dirty in here ear, and then her friend called her husband in. He was stunned at first, but walked over and after a minute asked if he could join in. K nodded, I said yes, and then they were both playing with them, squeezing and sucking, and K was going crazy. Her friend pulled her to the table and pushed K into a chair, got on her knees between K’s legs, and starting kissing and sucking again. Her husband and stood there watching getting hornier by the second. Then K’s friend looked at her husband and said come here. He looked at me, I shrugged and nodded, and he stepped over to the chair. K’s friend looked up at her and asked if she wanted to suck her husband’s cock. K was panting and whimpering by now, and she looked up at him, then at me. I said go ahead, and K’s friend went back to her breasts and the husband unzipped, pulled it out and stuffed it in K’s mouth. I was losing my mind! After a minute, K looked at me and told me to get over there. I did, and next thing you know I was watching her friend suck and lick her big breasts while she took turns sucking our cocks. K’s gf started rubbing her pussy and K’s through their jeans while still sucking her tits and they both ended up cumming that way. It was mind blowing to see and hear. K kept sucking us both until we each came in her mouth, and at the end we all were looking at each other like did that really just happen?? lol K and I did it again after we got back to her folk’s house, and it was so hard trying to be quiet! Our friends will be visiting this summer, and we’ve begun exchanging sexy text/pics and agreed to some ground rules. We’re not sure exactly what the future holds, but we’re expecting it to be fun!

Our first experience was with good friends, and it was so good - if unexpected lol. For us, it gives a sense of safety, respect, and trust none of us would find anywhere else. Plus, it lets us work out the sexual tension that I had to admit had been there for years ?

We assume people that only have pics of their vagina or penis are fugly, clueless and have nothing going on for themselves! Totally ignore them and instant block if they contact us. We also assume any female with just a pic of her big old boobies is heavy. If there are not full body shots of everyone who wants to be involved on a profile we don’t give them the time of day. Don’t care if they are fully clothed or naked. If we can’t see their body type to start out with there is nothing to talk about.

We used to worry about HPV and HSV. But the coronavirus takes it to another level. Looks like swinging will be rediscovered in the year 2200, when science defeats all viruses.