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Hello all. So let me get right to it. Me and my wife are probably why one might say are amateurs to swinging. Our experiences we can count on one hand. We have had one MFM. And we then had a MFM where there was another guy watching us and joined in only to the point he loved the idea of tasting my wife as me and the other had our selves inside of her. The experiences were both amazing, nerve wracking and everything between. We both enjoyed many aspects of experiences, but also found parts we did not like. The first experience was a little more planned and the second was a more like spur of the moment thing. We both want to try again, but as I said we are amateurs and for some reason are just both super nervous to pull the trigger on it. Like I said there were things about it that she did not like and things about it that I did not like. She more than me wants to start the next one with just finding another guy that would be willing to massage her with me, then kiss her with me all over. But she only wants me to be the one to penetrate her at first and he would be able to touch, go down in her and she would at the least stroke his cock with her hand and possibly go down on him if all goes smoothly. She really just wants the control and doesn't want the other guy to just want bam thank you mam, or have control and do as he please's. I enjoyed some of it so much I would honestly love going all the way again. But I want her to be comfortable and happy. Anyways I just rambling. How and do you think it's possible to find the perfect guy that is patient enough for that.

Welcome! I'm not actually any more experienced than you, but I'll offer one thing that I think I've had success with. When my lady and I were looking to bring another guy in, she was full of doubt and uncertainty. Instead of coming up with a do and don't list, I just told her that whatever she wanted was ok, and that I'd make sure that she stayed in control. It seemed to give her what she wanted. After a couple tentative experiments (I think she wanted to be sure how I'd react when it got real) she was suddenly comfortable doing everything. We both knew that she wanted to. But conditioning runs deep, and we had both grown up in very traditional families. I think she really just needed to feel safe that there wouldn't be shaming or resentment after. Anyway, welcome and I hope that helps.

You could specify that your wife is soft swap in which she will receive or give oral. But it is really difficult to micromanage what partners can and cannot do, other than general instructions like no nipple play or no BDSM or no anal. If a person is too scripted, they cannot express themselves. Leads to constricted performance and erectile difficulty.

I swear I always wondered about those poor young girls being secretly recorded. I could have been anyone of those girls when I was in school. How many jerks did I sleep with who only wanted to get laid. I look at some of these girls and they have love on their face. I know many are fakes, just too many angles being recorded and now I’m reading about a guy who set up a multi camera shoot. Then there is always that smirk on the guys face knowing he is recording this. My best thoughts are with the girl and always hope she isn’t faking. You know what you never see? The girl setting up a guy to be recorded.

Great observation. That's what we did and it worked out well. That approach made her comfortable and she enjoyed it so much that she was eager to continue and move on.

Wow! I infer from how you’ve written this that these women were not aware they were being videotaped. If they were, fine. I hope you and your buddy got written releases from them. If these women were not aware they were being filmed that’s seriously criminal behavior. Worthy of a substantial period of incarceration. (Last year I photographed a sex party for ASN. Everyone signed releases beforehand.)

Vintage 80's porn were very often movies that featured sex...most of the best videos are from that time period. Just wish they weren't shot on tape leading to very low picture quality now. We play a different game: when out in public, we look at other couples and debate if (1st) we would want to see them naked and (2nd) if we think that they would swing if they had the opportunity. Most couples are usually a no/no, but there are still enough out there where it's at least a yes/maybe.

I went full hairy during lockdown something I hadn’t done before. Itchy at first, I’ve been there before. We made it fun as it grew in and messy after some real fun. For porn we felt the opposite, we got bored with produced porn and enjoyed the real couples.

I do think swinging will return to normal by the end of the summer when most people should be vaccinated. (I know, not everyone wants to be). Swingers are risk takers and many have not seemed bothered by the virus. We are shocked by how many parties we have been invited to even when we keep declining the invitations. But, on the other hand, I am always shocked by how many people have asked if we will play without condoms...

For me, oral sex and kissing on the mouth are definitely the most intimate and VULNERABLE sexual acts. When I was married to my first husband and the marriage was falling apart, I was miserable. But I could always knock out some vaginal or anal sex with him. It felt good and I could just enjoy it for what it was. Totally different for me than oral sex or kissing. Especially oral sex being done on me. It's so much a mental enjoyment as well as physical. At the end of my first marriage I just couldn't let him go down on me. I couldn't separate the emotional from the physical. That's not to say that I don't enjoy oral from people that I don't love. I do! It's my fav! But I have to enjoy the person or at least not have negative feelings towards them. I hope that makes sense.

Thank you forum for putting up with me. I have a silly question about orgasms, what do men feel when their partner orgasms? I know how I feel during an orgasm, it lasts a few seconds, sometimes more intense than other times. Sometimes I have multiple orgasms, not all the time. Until I started playing with friends I just figured all women have sort of the same physical reactions. I never gave it thought as what my partner feels when I orgasm until both my husband and our guy friend were taking about my girlfriend. They both said she “ripples”. They both said I flutter. Okaaaay. Is that bad? I didn’t really understand. They explained some grip and that it’s not always noticeable but she ripples. They explained on my arm. My wrist was a penis, their hand a pussy. He gripped my wrist and tightened up for a second and released four times. That wasn’t me. I was quick and short squeezes for about 5 or 6 seconds. Our friend Matt had to scream and say “fuck me and Matt you are great, so much better than Mark”. Duh!! They both said Amanda was different and they both said the same thing. They said she ripples and grabbed my arm and tightened but made each finger on their hand tighten separately. They said it was like playing a trumpet with her pussy. I think they are goofing on me. Is this possible and what do you feel when she cums?

Doesn’t really matter what you do during an orgasm. Pretty sure anyone you are with will be happy they made you cum and know from a man cumming you can’t control how you cum. To answer your question my wife gets creamy and moans leading up to a series of contractions maybe like yours not like a ripple. Do you feel the difference in the men when they cum?

You are actually presenting multiple questions here -- should marijuana be allowed for medical use and should marijuana simply be allowed. I'll address the question should marijuana simply be allowed as I believe that is your intended question. Alcohol is the most dangerous drug and it is offered for sale legally. This does not justify allowing a drug presenting lesser danger, marijuana, to be introduce for legal sale. Let's keep a cork on the ones we already have half-way under control.