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Yes, yes, YES! I'm glad to say we have decades of videos and photos we have taken over the years! Ann is naturally photogenic and an exhibitionist at heart. I'm not afraid of the camera, either. So, we're well matched ?

One thing we would say is that single guys will fib about how bi they are in order to have sex with a woman. "I am not really bi, but you can suck me if I can have sex with your wife." No thank you.

Women, as with all of their parties, invited. Couples are invited but the man must be bi or bi-curious.

I doubt that they HAVE and IT team...probably like most sites where it is just the owners and MAYBE some friends that help out. When things (updates, upgrades, server crashes, etc) go wrong, then they have to scramble to figure out how to fix it. Recreating or uploading a huge database takes time and patience. I'm betting that is what is happening and not the end of SLS. I'm sure that they will be back in a few days (probably with some new feature that nobody will care about, just like the last couple of 'features').

Professional porn does nothing for me, in fact, more a turn-off than turn-on with the fake screeching oohs and ahhhs, fake bodies, fake everything. Amateur porn on the other hand is a turn-on if like christnthms said, it's obvious people are enjoying it. Even going back to vhs days, we have a few times in the past made our own porn. Just something fun to do that we have tried a few times.

The most stand out event for us is when we found out the wife was pregnant for the third time with twins and a huge surprise when black fraternal twin boys slid out. We have no idea who the father is. It could be one of twelve black men over a three week period. Best we can figure he was a Jamaican fellow she met in Miami Florida. He shared our motel room for four days. She was on the pill. Our doctor told us that the birth control pill only has a 99 percent prevention. Of course it was easy for our two older boys to figure out their mom had enjoyed a black man some how, some where and figured if I was ok with it there wouldn't be a divorce. We explained we were swingers. That was ok with them. Some of their friends parent's were also swingers.

Maybe their IT people got a look at the private picture galleries and got distracted from their work.

Our favorite Florida club is trying something new. They are organizing a Friday evening party especially for bi men. From their e-mail announcement (punctuation and spelling mistakes are theirs, not mine): Please note that this is a Bi Party, not a straight party. You must be open minded to attend its a no judgement zone and if you judge you will be asked to leave and not allowed back. Any male who attends must be bi sexual or bi curious. Please do not invite others, it's a invitation party only. This party was created for a safe place for bi sexual or bi curious men to explore their sexuality. In order to keep an atmosphere that allows safety, privacy and freedom we ask that no straight men attend. I find it notable that they include "we ask that no straight men attend".

So I will play a little game by myself whenever I watch a threesome/moresome porn video. I prefer the videos that present real people/real couples. Then, while watching the sex scene occur, I like to guess which pairings are the real couple, and who is the "extra" person in the video. I judge by how the participants kiss each other, how they look while giving a blowjob or going down on each other, little playful verbal banter caught on film, type or amount of dirty talk, volume or quality of vocalized pleasure during the scene...so I guess the question is: Am I the only one who does stuff like this, and what else do you do while watching porn (aside from the obvious activity)?

So I know i’m going to offend any pure nudists with this post so i’ll apologize in advance. I believe that I have made it clear that my husband and I love nude beaches and resorts - we are not nudists - we love being nude and we are exhibitionists to the core. To that end, we know that on any given day, probably half of the folks in the beach are gawkers. They are there hoping that there are some women out there among the sea of men. I love being a woman on the beach - in some places, i’m in a huge minority. When we go to our favorite in NJ, i’m among several friends and the ratio is a bit more reasonable. Either way, I kind of like the gawkers. I like it that I know i’m being looked at. My question is to the ladies - how do you feel bout it? I get off thinking about the guys rubbing one off later thinking about me. If I know they are looking, i’ll even shift my chair or move so they get a perfect view. I’ll even spread a bit for them. We have hooked up with a few of the guys or invited them to join our group. I guess the bottom line is I figure everybody has their kink, who am I to judge as long as they keep their distance and don’t get too creepy - what say you?

I think your wife was honest. She was sparked up by a new encounter. But her spark may rebound to your benefit. If she is sparky from new sexual encounters, that spark and enthusiasm should carry over to your relationship.

Definitely have, a lot. And it's not easy being the lighting guy, camera man, sound engineer, production assistant, the director AND the talent. 3-some and 4-somes are easier as a player who is taking the bench for a shift can hold the camera. And it's fun later to see their perspective/ what interests them. Gotta a nice library built up now so I whack-it to my wife like 95-percent of the time. She's my favorite porn star. ??

A picture us worth a 1000 words and video 10,000, but neither is ever a replacement for actually being there. Whether the subject is a mountain range, high altitude lake, a naked women or ... I've just never been blown away by the film. However, it is nice to have a permanent visual memory, especially as time seems to fade many of my experiences. We don't take pics or videos, have in the past and have as couplers stated been shocked by some of what we see. maybe its just because we are comparing amateur porn to pro and that is certainly a no win. We too like 'real' porn best even if it's of poor quality. As stated, if people really look like they are having fun, then that scores big points. When looking at amateur photos, or lifestyle pics on SLS it is often clear when one or the other party s not 'into' it. Those folks get a fast pass.

It's not that, it's just that the pictures or video didn't turn out as well or capture what I saw and heard when the activity was taking place. Body parts that looked pretty and sexy when seen live, had closeups that could pass for alien creatures that had landed. It was funny when we would look at them later and ask each other who and what is that? Still, I wish I had kept them, a record of the early days of our play.

Definitely! I suppose the best way we can describe ourselves is we are Porn Snobs--meaning, we like porn and are somewhat frequent consumers of it, but it has to be good porn! Lol... "Good" is a comparative, subjective term, of course, and ultimately is decided by one's tastes. For us, the definition of of "good" will vary, depending upon the genre. True amateur porn that is good does not necessarily mean the production quality is great. It's more about the people involved (are they having fun and really into each other?) and the overall scene. Also, generally speaking, we are more physically attracted to the "girl-next-door"/"guy-next-door" type, rather than the plasticized, steroid-infused, heavily tattooed looking , glammed-up porn actors and actresses that are currently in vogue (frankly, they are more likely to turn us off, rather than turn us on.) To us, seeing the average-looking couple engaged in some very naughty sex scenes is far more arousing than watching most commercial porn. That's not to say we don't like some professional porn. But, it usually involves a specific genre and/or kink we're into or like to fantasize about.

Here's the current message, changed since when last time I looked yesterday. We miss you as much as you miss us....please bear with us as we continue to work as quickly as possible to get back live with you!! The SLS Team They are obviously working on getting back up as fast as they can. I feel for them and wish them luck because I know how much it sucks when something like that happens.

A&A, it’s true that in many states — 40% of them as you point out — there is no specific criminal statute regarding the recording of sexual acts without the permission of all involved. But in 60% of states those laws do exist. And people are doing hard time after being convicted of violating them. I did a very quick Google search on the subject and here are the first four listed. Three are convictions for up to 23 years. The fourth is a defense attorney offering his services to those charged with such crimes. https://www.ydr.com/story/news/crime/2018/07/06/glen-rock-man-sentenced-state-prison-secretly-recording-naked-partially-nude-people-york-county/747044002/ https://www.yorkdispatch.com/story/news/crime/2018/09/17/fawn-grove-man-gets-prison-time-secretly-filming-sex-women-girls/1335583002/ https://miami.cbslocal.com/2018/12/03/florida-man-3-year-prison-sentence-secretly-recorded-sex-sessions-sold-porn-site/ https://www.columbuscriminaldefenseattorney.com/blog/in-ohio-is-it-a-crime-to-secretly-videotape-a-sex-with-someone-else/ And as you also noted, there’s the matter of civil litigation. I’m not sure how many states permit invasion of privacy suits, but I suspect most if not all. (You seem well informed on these matters and I’d be pleased to learn if you have clarifying information on that.) But I think there’s a broader issue that would be germane to most members of this board. With very few exceptions people here value their privacy. There is an expectation in the lifestyle, so widespread it almost goes without saying, that we will honor one another’s privacy. Why is the privacy of a college student having sex with a date of less importance than that of a couple who engage in partner exchanges or group activity? To my mind, surreptitiously recording others in sexual situations without their permission, is skeevy behavior. Whether it manages to skirt criminality or not, I believe many regular contributors to this board, would find this behavior reprehensible.

Well, legal lol. Seriously, there’s something to be said for shared experiences that like-age people have. There’s also learning factor that can be shared between those with something if an age gap. I think all this really depends on the parties involved, their personalities and their their maturity levels. It’s not a one size fits all kinda answer. Some younger people are “old souls,” while there are older people who never lose that zest for life ??‍♀️

Okay, so here's my take on it. SLS possibly has been seriously hacked, or (more probably imho) they tried to do some sort of a site upgrade that's gone horribly wrong. They are working feverishly on it. (Okay, take the word 'feverishly' out of it.) In a few hours or days it'll be back up. The economics of the site are simply too lucrative to be abandoned. Patience, grasshoppers.

I've had a different realization over the years. There are a great many people who I wouldn't necessarily want to see naked, just for the sake of seeing them naked. But if they're passionate and into each other, it's still hot to watch them have sex. Maybe it's because over the years, some of my most fun partners weren't exactly models.

Nice ! ...Thank you

70/30 here. Does that mean I still got a passing grade!!!

You never finished this tale...?

We put the lifestyle on hold for about 8 years while raising our kid. Well, he’s at that age we don’t feel guilty anymore about leaving him as he’s getting more invites for overnights and now we are like “it’s time for us again”. We ended the lifestyle going to a nudist swinger camp. We met an awesome couple that weekend who we enjoyed their company (dinner/flirting/nice grinding on the dance floor) nothing else though because I was two months pregnant and the partner was on her monthly. We keep in touch over the years with each other via Facebook. Honestly, it’s been a huge fantasy of mine to link up with them again as the chemistry of terrific. We are going to my 25th class reunion and we are staying about 3 hours from home which is near their house so we are meeting up for drinks. I’m nervous but excited as it’s been so long just wanted to share the excitement. Any tips always welcomed too...

And yes, when I know one or more guys are looking, i’ll discretely open my legs a bit - very slowly. I’m usually so wet and horny at this point, my girl will open up just enough for them. If I’m interested in meeting them or talking, I’ll open up and make eye contact. It drives me and my husband wild.

I have done an amateur night a few times a couple of years ago. It was definitely a total rush for me seeing so many guys looking at me. Most of the others went topless - I chose to keep my skirt on but removed my panties. The guys flipped as I worked the perimeter of the stage and gave them close up views of my legs spread and pussy spread wide open for them. I still masturbate thinking bout those nights. I agree that exhibitionism can naturally lead to swinging. When we first started with our first couple, we started with nude hot tubbing. Being naked lead to sitting closely to each other’s spouse. This lead to some flirty touching. This led to the guys showing their erect cocks and us first playing with our own spouses together. This lead to wives touching the other guys. This lead to guys sitting on the edge and wives blowing the other guys. This led to taking things inside and full swap sex.

When the minority becomes huge, something is up. ...Long before we met, my wife did several amateur nights at strip clubs. She has told me that it was interesting watching the men (and a few women) watch her. Have either of you ever done it? Seems the perfect place for a female exhibitionist. My wife isn't an exhibitionist per se in that she does it for a thrill, but if he's looking and she's showing off, she will spread her legs wide and manually part her lips. Once when I said I thought that she was going overboard, my wife told me it kept him from staring at her tits.

Always, an interesting topic. Once had a friend tell me she didn,t want to play with me because she knew I played w bi couples. The irony of the whole thing is she had just told me about how she had caught gonorrhea playing w some straight guys that she met off of a random dating site. Just because a person is gay or bi it does not mean that they will want to engage in sex with you. If someone touches another person without consent then thats a person you should not be hanging out with in the first place...as mentioned above in someone else message. Have heard so many excuses about why people don't play w bi or gay people and it usually comes down to the good old STD argument. Truth be told I have been swinging about 17 years and have been having sex even longer than that....lol. The point I am trying to make is that I have known quite a few ppl to contract STDs. Almost all of them have been between people that were heterosexual...both within and outside of the swingers community.

I am a straight male. We have played with couples with bi males. They know it is not my interest, so we don't go there. There is a lot of communicating and negotiating in the lifestyle. It's part of the sport.

All the bi guys we know are respectful in that if your straight - they don't come on to you. Having said that, there has been a few DP's we had a "oops" moment where some dick has touched the other one while lining up the girl lol It's not a worry in our book even though I'm straight.

My husband is similar in the sense that he's not attracted to another male but he enjoys bisexual acts during sex. We have played with plenty of straight people and we respect their preferences. He has never grabbed any part of another male knowing that he plays straight. I can't speak for others, but it's not an uncontrollable urge. Just like other fetishes, it's simply a matter of not doing it if the other partners are not into it.

I'm a bi guy, play with other couples with straight men all the time. Not a big deal. I have had my ass grabbed expectantly by a man I thought was straight. However, I have never grabbed or touched another guy when he told me he was straight. Hope that helps!! Good Luck and have fun!

Well, in a way. People who contact us do so primarily through a swinger hook-up Web site like SLS or SZC. The assumption is that the bisexual man has read and understood our profile and has seen and understood the fact that we present ourselves, both of us, as straight. The one person who seemed to not get the message and grabbed for my balls while I was fucking his wife was never invited into our company again. I care not whether or not a man is bisexual or not but grabbing for my ass/balls/whatever uninvited puts him and his partner on the never-again list. That being said, if the people who contact us using a Web site like SLS have bi in their profile, we see this as no reason for turning down an invitation to meet. I do not labor under the belief that a bisexual person will not be able to control urges and will right away want to suck my dick or demand that I suck his. If bi, I assume that, while with straight people, a taste for the other gender will direct desire and action. Experience has shown this to be true.

My ex and I played in threesomes with guys we knew to be Bi. I told them I was straight before we started, I never had any problems. If you're uncomfortable with just knowing the guy is Bi and don't want to play with him, that's fine, your preference. But if you're afraid he'll come on to you, and that's the only reason you're rejecting him, I'd say go ahead and schedule a date.