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Looks like things should be 100% back to normal soon. They had an issue and they dealt with it the best they could while trying to look out for their members, don't know what else one can really ask of them. I'll take that approach and the site being down a few days over ignoring a problem to try maintain an all is well face on it.

I think it's great that a 'Swingers Club' is expanding the boundaries of what is included in that definition. Hopefully it will also be financially positive for the club. We would totally attend and to previous post about 'safe'. Yep, we want to know that opening up about something that is less main stream won't be met with violence etc. Sometimes it's hard to imagine being gay, bi, trans or whatever would illicit a negative reactions, but it occurs more often than we think. It's one reason we don't present as bi to men in public places. Risk of bad outcome, or at least confrontation. I often think of how brave people are that come out publicly. It's, in my opinion, just inviting trouble. I can live in my closeted bubble, partly because this is a hobby and be free of fear and repercussions.

Perhaps you're not a minority (neither am I) or you don't have any close friends who are minorities. Perhaps you've heard about the recent atrocities that happened to Asian-American women. When you're not in the mainstream, you can tend to become worried about the 'straights' (I mean that as any non-minority, not just sexual,) and can be a bit paranoid from time to time. I think the Florida Treehouse announcement and the reference to safe place is meant to calm bi-men who aren't used to being out in public.

We have made a few short home videos. I usually do the filming and it comes out pretty crappy. My GF has and continues to make videos with other guys which is much hotter. I have filmed her with other guys a few times and they have also filmed her. One of my friends went to school for film and he goes all out when he films them together. He knows how to do the cameras, lighting, and even the roleplaying/ acting. It's as good as any porn you would find on the internet. I'm not a fan of being on camera but my GF loves it and I love watching her on it so it works out pretty well for us. Both her and my buddies make special videos of her fucking for me from time to time and I get extremely turned on watching them.

With a risk of explosion and shrapnel.

I thought that this site was devoted to the antithesis of chastity. ?

I was a stripper in a strip club from age 18 to 27, and it is a huge rush putting yourself on display like that. I got a huge charge from doing it. Now conversely I do not really like an audience while having sex, but I will get naked at the drop of a hat. I think I still got it, even though I'm a 30 something.

I'm single female interested in swinging. I'm struggling to find relationships with single men into swinging. I'm not big on just casual fwbs. I'm 21 so I feel like my whole age group is not as open to swinging.

I don´t want to start a long polemic discussion, or offend anybody but science is not an opinion and shouldn't be discussed as one. Asymptomatic carriers are real, do exist with other viruses and from the data we have at this point, are an important part of the spread of COVID-19. The window of time in which an asymptomatic carrier can be infectious might be shorter, closer physical contact might be necessary since the viral load of this person might be lower but don´t discard the risk of meeting an asymptomatic, they are there and unfortunately they don´t know. Be safe and keep the other safe! With love Your personal molecular biologist

Yes, I understood your original point. Like the common cold, our bodies would largely adapt to fighting it after we reach some kind of herd immunity. I hope that is the path it follows. But, right now, it looks like it's taking a pathway that more closely resembles influenza. Keep in mind, most healthy people can battle influenza successfully with minimal medical intervention. But, generally, it is a more serious viral infection than a simple cold. And it can, and does, kill a lot of vulnerable people. And I am aware COVID is in the same family as the common cold. And it is in the same family as SARs and MERs. Coronavirus is a big family tree. And, as you correctly point out, COVID-19 and influenza are very different viruses. According to a February article in Today, a poll of 100 virologists, immunologists, and researchers, showed 89 of them believed COVID-19, and its variants, are endemic and not something that will be eradicated. The former director of the CDC said this particular disease is showing a remarkable ability to mutate and adapt to everything we throw at it. JnJ's CEO says he predicts this is something people will need to get annually vaccinated for over at least the next several years.

Yes, your first part of your post is correct: For most people, the current versions of the vaccine will not result in complete immunity from the virus. It is very possible to be infected even after being vaccinated, but the intended results are significantly less severe symptoms and resulting complications. I know someone who was vaccinated with the Pfizer version of the vaccine and she contracted the virus several weeks after completing her second dose. Her symptoms were comparatively mild, but she was not a happy camper. She was under the mistaken belief that she was completely immune. Whoopsie. You are incorrect about asymptomatic carriers. They are entirely capable of spreading the disease. In fact, the CDC estimates a very large percentage of cases are spread from people who have no outward, or only very mild, symptoms. And then we have the issue of the virus mutating. The CDC is, right now, quite concerned about the possibility of another surge and is urging Americans to maintain social distancing, regardless of if one is vaccinated or not. As I wrote earlier, in California, the most populous state in the union, the majority of all new cases are coming from two, new variants. Arizona and Nevada are close on its heels. Frightening stuff. As far as the lifestyle is concerned... it will remain to be seen. Some people are naturally more prone to taking risks than are others. Some people are driven more by their desire for sex than are others. Will that risk taking and desire for sex be tempered by the possibility/probability of catching a virus, or spreading a virus, that could cause serious illness or even death to you or your playmates? I would imagine the answer would be "yes" for most reasonable people, even the risk takers. It's a bell shaped curve, and those on the extreme fringe will throw caution to the wind, no doubt. But they are the minority. Us? Until we know a LOT more about the virus... we're sticking with our carefree nudist lifestyle and playing hide the salami exclusively in the comfort and safety of our relationship. We've avoided it so far (knock on wood) and intend to keep it that way.

Well, well... La minestra del vicino e sempre piu buona. Si? My wife may be interested if your tagliatelle alla bolognese can stand up to my own ?

No need for torches and pitchforks when all they need to do is insult and ridicule the bi men trying to have a good time along with their supportive wives.

Looks like they are back up but are still in the process of restoring quite a bit of the site like photos. Sounds like that earlier cryptic message was a possible breach as according to the new header on the site was they took it down to protect member's privacy.

Whatever your wife gets tipped she should give the $ to the dancers - she'll be a hero.

Patience guys. Obtaining and training a new squirrel to run the hard drive takes time,

This seems reasonable to me! We have gone to a few parties that catered to bi woman and had no bi men rules. I know we wouldn’t be welcome to go to this one and we would not have any interest anyways, but why should that matter?

Pfizer, Round One, is in the books. Round Two scheduled for mid-April. Side-effects? Me: Absolutely none. Not even a sore injection site. Ann: Sore arm, little headache, and trouble falling and staying asleep. Treated with some extra H2O and 100 mg of acetaminophen. And a stiff Grey Goose martini, hold the olives ?

Yes! Ann wears these quite a bit at home, on the lanai, on the deck of the boat (when she's had enough sunshine), to and from the beach, etc. I adore the sheer outfits... seeing the effect of the waning afternoon sun passing through, outlining the curves God gave her... We've been married a loooong time, and she still makes me catch my breath... ? I'm one lucky guy, and I know it (still have her fooled! Ha! ?)

People do think the vaccine is a magic bullet. The virus read the memo about six feet. If you wear a mask, you cannot contract the virus. People do like certainty, but the virus is impervious to wishful thinking. They want to replicate.

Our 1st post in a thousand years, but we hope SLS is ok. The quality is better than AFF or SDC. We have been life members for a few years so we aren't concerned with a payment breach. But, it has been a mainstay of the community for so long, what will fill the void if it does not survive is more concerning.

It's not that, it's just that the pictures or video didn't turn out as well or capture what I saw and heard when the activity was taking place. Body parts that looked pretty and sexy when seen live, had closeups that could pass for alien creatures that had landed. It was funny when we would look at them later and ask each other who and what is that? Still, I wish I had kept them, a record of the early days of our play.

Yes, yes, YES! I'm glad to say we have decades of videos and photos we have taken over the years! Ann is naturally photogenic and an exhibitionist at heart. I'm not afraid of the camera, either. So, we're well matched ?

The most stand out event for us is when we found out the wife was pregnant for the third time with twins and a huge surprise when black fraternal twin boys slid out. We have no idea who the father is. It could be one of twelve black men over a three week period. Best we can figure he was a Jamaican fellow she met in Miami Florida. He shared our motel room for four days. She was on the pill. Our doctor told us that the birth control pill only has a 99 percent prevention. Of course it was easy for our two older boys to figure out their mom had enjoyed a black man some how, some where and figured if I was ok with it there wouldn't be a divorce. We explained we were swingers. That was ok with them. Some of their friends parent's were also swingers.

We both had our first Pfizer dose this morning.

Here is my weak attempt of making humor out of a serious situation: The three big lies: * Your check is in the mail. * I will not cum in your mouth. * I've been vaccinated.

A mistress of my acquaintance sometimes has one of her slaves to wear a very similar device. She commands him to kiss and fondle women as well as to watch her having sex until he begs to have the device removed. He says that this greatly enhances his experience. For the record, playing a slave or sub would do nothing for me. I am sometimes one of the guys with who she has sex when she wants to tease a slave or sub.

I think it's important to draw a distinction between a public clothing-optional beach versus a nude beach at an adults-only, or lifestyle, resort area. I'm including this just as a point of information, not to be argumentative. Nudism is not a sexual, or even sexually provocative, activity. At the public clothing-optional beach Ann and I frequent most, it is not unheard of to see families with children. We have helped to organize/support a group of volunteers who discreetly patrol the beach to ensure a pleasant and stress-free environment is enjoyed by all. Nude beaches attached to places like Hedonism, Desire, Grand Lido, Temptation, etc. are different affairs altogether and actually *encourage* a sexually charged atmosphere. At those locations, seeing and being seen is the whole point ?

My wife reminded me of a funny story, to keep my borscht belt thread going. I accompanied my wife to a lingerie shop and I dilligently read my iPhone while my wife was trying things on with the assistance of a sales associate. The sales associate said to me “Your wife has an incredible body.” The sales associate is right. I said “ Can you imagine how much money I have to have to land a wife like that?” The sales associate did not know what to say. True story, verbatim.

When I was in law school, my then girlfriend and I were in a Japanese restaurant. To give you an idea how long ago this was, sushi was a novelty. I guess we were ogling the sushi of the couple in the booth across from us. They offered us a taste of their sushi. We politely declined. The banter continued throughout dinner. When my gf and I got home, we arrived at the same conclusion. The other couple was trying to pick us up! At age 24, this concept was beyond us.

This isn't hard to relate to. I had one or two possibilities that could've led to something in my teens and 20s, for various reasons. I've never been religious, but grew up surrounded by the mindset, so some of it rubbed off. I also tend to forget how terrified I was of being stuck in the town where I went to high school, due to pregnancy or whatever reason. Plus, it was the 80s and everyone was freaked out about AIDS. I was still reticent even after turning 40, getting a divorce, and starting swinging. I turned down one of those high school opportunities who even flew out to see me. It just didn't seem like a good idea--she still lived in my high school town, had been divorced a couple times, etc, etc. She understood. Sometimes I wish I'd gone through with what she clearly wanted, and others I feel like it was the right decision.

We all have a few, but imagine living an entire life of regrets.

In addition, she is very physically attractive.

Guilty as charged. I love the exhibitionist part of going topless or nude at the beach. My husband teases me about my nipples getting erect when they know that they are being admired. I insist that it is just the ocean breeze.

She did indeed - gave his shaft a nice feel and slid her fingers around the head. Didn’t come back with us that day but we did hook up about two weeks later. We ended up staying at the same hotel. Ran into her by the pool and then hung out on the beach the following day.

In the old days of me trolling for women to fuck my husband, I would have started a conversation with her, letting her know that he is mine, does as I say, and I share.

Sounds like one of my signature moves! Love that casual and subtle flash. I also love it when i see a woman interested in my husband. This summer I noticed the female half of a couple watching him every time he came out of the water. Just for fun I met him at the edge of the water right next to her and got him talking with me and my friend. His cock was ten feet from her. He had no idea and her reaction was priceless. Just one of the many reasons we love it there.

My wife told me that when we met that she had an insatiable appetite, which not only intrigued me, but matched my own sexual energy. It seems that several of my past girlfriends liked Double penetration. But Laura seems to Really like multiple cocks in her and was one of the few that I have fucked that love double vaginal and even double anal penetration, which is not easy as some of you may know. I have never minded another cock rubbing mine and we both cum. But what Laura likes is that she wants us both to clean up her pussy and share the cum with her. The secret of a successful DP or DVP is get out of the head and enjoy the pleasure. We have had so many couples that are not ready for this level of play due to some insecurities or jealousies. If you can let go of your fears and have fun fucking a hot slut like Laura, it is really easy. My best friend and I have got into an easy rhythm together and know what Laura likes and when. Just keep practicing and it can be a great experience. And yes, lots of oil all over our bodies helps. Dave and Laura

One of my greatest memories was when our longtime best male friend and I were having a threesome. When I was on my back having intercourse with my wife, he would lick and play with my balls. When he had intercourse with my wife, I would do the same to him. We also did DVP with him and it was great.

i love seeing her riding a nice looking cock. Love to eat her pussy and give his shaft and balls a little attention as well.

I happen to have a pretty wide pussy for being so small, but muscular, so I love a good DP and DVP, so size doesn't matter. I like to have my hubby rubbing with another hard cock and then they can lean me up afterwards. I did do double anal twice and actually liked it when younger. Laura Dave and Laura vegas nude couple

we tried a new position last night. my husband was on the bottom and sat back in. recliner. i got on top nd he slid his cock in my ass. i spread my legs wide and the guy stood in front and was able to easily penetrate my pussy. my husband couldn’t move much but i loved the pressure in my ass while getting off on the other cock. I also liked being able to see him rather than being on all fours. i liked that when he pulled out i could watch him jerk off and cum on me. Not the same as pulling out and cumming on my back. Afterwards they switched - just make sure the guy in your ass wears a condom and then remove it if he’s going to switch to the front.

I (the male half) did DVP with a previous partner, and a male friend while his wife watched. It took a bit of doing -- awkward positions, weird placement of legs, but we managed it. He said it was pleasurable and came first; it was fantastically arousing for me to feel another hard cock snug within her, sliding against me, and a new, weird, and ultimately orgasm-inducing feeling to feel him swell and cum in her alongside my own cock. I'd never felt that much cum ooze out around my balls (I was underneath), and I couldn't hold back at that point and came, too. She said it was amazing and came a couple of times with the two of us in her. Adding a larger dildo during sex when it was just the two of us became a regular thing, and eventually she took to enjoying an entire hand -- and others -- inside. Sadly, she took ill, and now that I've remarried, we haven't tried that kind of thing since.

My wife chooses to have the thicker dick in her vagina, the longer one in her ass. So with her, the guys don't get to choose in a DP. When given the choice with another woman, I'll choose the front. I like looking at a woman's face when she's fucking and playing with her tits.

Both times our best friend hand DVP with my wife and me, he and I came rather quickly and we both came together. It was amazing. Since we were not using condoms, he and I could really feel the added lubrication when we came together.

The first two times we did it, I came as the other guy slid in. It was just that hot. You are not alone!

My close call with DVP was a cruel joke. I was at a house party. A woman (friend and playmate) was on top of me and I was in there. Another guy approached us and asked if we wanted to try DVP. I got so excited by the thought of it, I came almost immediately. My partner and her nearby husband thought this was very funny!

It's difficult to just happen into a dvp. It does require all participants to be on the same page. It's good to be aware that getting into the position does require a decent sense of humor. So, since she is concerned about enough room, be very careful. You should be the top guy. Get the bottom guy in as deep as possible and allow her time to adjust to him. The position is bottom guy with legs together, her cowgirl, chest to chest, you are coming in doggie with your legs between hers and his. Getting your dick in should be done pretty slowly and with too much lube. Once you get the head in, let her adjust again and don't push until you feel her start to push back, or tell you to give her some more. Once you are in, you will still probably have to go pretty slowly but let her set the pace. Keeping everyone somewhere between soft and shooting is tricky but with commitment and practice, you too can soon be DVP masters.

A number of years ago my wife and I were having a threesome and it turned into a DVP. It was a very enjoyable experience so we did it again a few weeks later.

tn, Thanks for sharing. I agree with you. People think that dening themselves is the greats way to please God. But I think enjoying God's creation with a thankful heart is what pleases God most! dayhiker