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Not sure why it’s so difficult to understand why the hosting club only wants bi-comfortable, open-minded, men and women in attendance at a bi male themed party. They simply want to create an environment where m/m play can go on without gawkers or those who feel it may be fun sport to harass, name call, or ridicule. Worse, would be the outraged reaction of a homophobic male if approached by another male. So, if you are triggered by the word “Safe” and insulted at the very notion – maybe you aren’t the guy to be there on said Friday evening…

For me, it's not about having sex or sex acts or multiple partners. It is about 'feeding' different aspects of my personality, occasionally, in diverse ways with sex. It transcends role playing, it's a sexual moment as I'm giving, yielding, engaging and driving my partner(s) into an exquisite moment. To build them up, for the men to enter me in a pure moment that thrills or kissing a woman with tongues plunging deeply. I love it when someone I may have just met can surrender to me and I to them. Then, once we're done that it's perfectly alright to go to the next partner and, who knows, have that same person again later that night (or not). Or, if it's simply to play with another couple, have the sex with the husband be so great that the wife thanks me. Then, of course, there's the knowledge of my husband having another girl, whether it be a wife or innocent bystander, knowing she just might be asking herself if watching me fuck means my husband must be amazing (he is).

No need for torches and pitchforks when all they need to do is insult and ridicule the bi men trying to have a good time along with their supportive wives.

Um. Yes. It is safe to say you still have it ? Cute feet, BTW.

I'm not sure that having no interest in male-on-male sex necessarily equals "homophobic." I wouldn't attend a swingers event like this - just as I wouldn't go to a gay sex party/bath house. It's not my thing, but all the power to those that desire it. Live and let live. I love my gay friends and family members and fully support them in everything they do. To me, men are gross, smelly, hairy, disgusting animals, while women are sacred and beautiful flowers. I find the idea of sex with another man to be revolting and I thank god everyday that he designed woman to be sexually attracted to us repulsive creatures. Is it still okay to be a heterosexual male?

I know I've said this before..... but there are a lot of people in the LS that are homophobic. Lots of couples won't play with a bi/bi curious man. There are lots of men that are indeed curious but we know couples that won't play with a couple if the guy is anything but straight. The women have said they don't want a guy looking at his butt. There are a LOT of guys that would recoil in horror if another guy touched their junk and would likely leave if their dicks touched. We have several FWB that have said VERY tentatively that they have always wondered what it would be like if.......I am straight but after a couple of drinks and in the right situation, who knows what could happen. We like experimenting and it's why we belong to sls and fet life. My wife is bi and it's probably the reason we started swinging. One of our 1st trips to a club we ended up in a puppy pile and one person was a mtf trans guy. I kinda regret not seeing where that might have gone. Watching her bang another girl was really hot.

Dude, I never said anything about straight men.

She has put her best foot forward. ? I am fascinated by, and attracted to, her inner labia.

I tend to agree with your reasoning. In addition covid-19 will also adapt to us as well. ANY virus that kills so many people is poorly adapted as virtually all virus die with the host. The time frame is impossible to predict. I tend to make my decisions based on scientific information. And in my estimation the side effects out weights the risk of getting covid. The flu changes rapidly hence the reason the flu shot doesn't always work. While covid-19 has mutated, it hasn't changed as rapidly and hopefully enough people will be vaccinated to control the spread. Think polio, measles, mumps, german measles. I have about a week and a half till my second dose. Even with just the 1st shot scientific evidence shows a better than 75% protection. We are older and have a higher risk factors. But as I see it this , along with some proper precautions is our best chance of getting covid under some control. And returning to some sense of normalcy.

I don´t want to start a long polemic discussion, or offend anybody but science is not an opinion and shouldn't be discussed as one. Asymptomatic carriers are real, do exist with other viruses and from the data we have at this point, are an important part of the spread of COVID-19. The window of time in which an asymptomatic carrier can be infectious might be shorter, closer physical contact might be necessary since the viral load of this person might be lower but don´t discard the risk of meeting an asymptomatic, they are there and unfortunately they don´t know. Be safe and keep the other safe! With love Your personal molecular biologist

Yes, I understood your original point. Like the common cold, our bodies would largely adapt to fighting it after we reach some kind of herd immunity. I hope that is the path it follows. But, right now, it looks like it's taking a pathway that more closely resembles influenza. Keep in mind, most healthy people can battle influenza successfully with minimal medical intervention. But, generally, it is a more serious viral infection than a simple cold. And it can, and does, kill a lot of vulnerable people. And I am aware COVID is in the same family as the common cold. And it is in the same family as SARs and MERs. Coronavirus is a big family tree. And, as you correctly point out, COVID-19 and influenza are very different viruses. According to a February article in Today, a poll of 100 virologists, immunologists, and researchers, showed 89 of them believed COVID-19, and its variants, are endemic and not something that will be eradicated. The former director of the CDC said this particular disease is showing a remarkable ability to mutate and adapt to everything we throw at it. JnJ's CEO says he predicts this is something people will need to get annually vaccinated for over at least the next several years.

Yes, your first part of your post is correct: For most people, the current versions of the vaccine will not result in complete immunity from the virus. It is very possible to be infected even after being vaccinated, but the intended results are significantly less severe symptoms and resulting complications. I know someone who was vaccinated with the Pfizer version of the vaccine and she contracted the virus several weeks after completing her second dose. Her symptoms were comparatively mild, but she was not a happy camper. She was under the mistaken belief that she was completely immune. Whoopsie. You are incorrect about asymptomatic carriers. They are entirely capable of spreading the disease. In fact, the CDC estimates a very large percentage of cases are spread from people who have no outward, or only very mild, symptoms. And then we have the issue of the virus mutating. The CDC is, right now, quite concerned about the possibility of another surge and is urging Americans to maintain social distancing, regardless of if one is vaccinated or not. As I wrote earlier, in California, the most populous state in the union, the majority of all new cases are coming from two, new variants. Arizona and Nevada are close on its heels. Frightening stuff. As far as the lifestyle is concerned... it will remain to be seen. Some people are naturally more prone to taking risks than are others. Some people are driven more by their desire for sex than are others. Will that risk taking and desire for sex be tempered by the possibility/probability of catching a virus, or spreading a virus, that could cause serious illness or even death to you or your playmates? I would imagine the answer would be "yes" for most reasonable people, even the risk takers. It's a bell shaped curve, and those on the extreme fringe will throw caution to the wind, no doubt. But they are the minority. Us? Until we know a LOT more about the virus... we're sticking with our carefree nudist lifestyle and playing hide the salami exclusively in the comfort and safety of our relationship. We've avoided it so far (knock on wood) and intend to keep it that way.

I think it's great that a 'Swingers Club' is expanding the boundaries of what is included in that definition. Hopefully it will also be financially positive for the club. We would totally attend and to previous post about 'safe'. Yep, we want to know that opening up about something that is less main stream won't be met with violence etc. Sometimes it's hard to imagine being gay, bi, trans or whatever would illicit a negative reactions, but it occurs more often than we think. It's one reason we don't present as bi to men in public places. Risk of bad outcome, or at least confrontation. I often think of how brave people are that come out publicly. It's, in my opinion, just inviting trouble. I can live in my closeted bubble, partly because this is a hobby and be free of fear and repercussions.

Yes! Ann wears these quite a bit at home, on the lanai, on the deck of the boat (when she's had enough sunshine), to and from the beach, etc. I adore the sheer outfits... seeing the effect of the waning afternoon sun passing through, outlining the curves God gave her... We've been married a loooong time, and she still makes me catch my breath... ? I'm one lucky guy, and I know it (still have her fooled! Ha! ?)

I was a stripper in a strip club from age 18 to 27, and it is a huge rush putting yourself on display like that. I got a huge charge from doing it. Now conversely I do not really like an audience while having sex, but I will get naked at the drop of a hat. I think I still got it, even though I'm a 30 something.

Mrs Doc is not shy at a nude beach. She'll open her legs a bit or rub lotion on her boobs if there is an attractive couple nearby who show some interest. Sometimes she'll roll over on her stomach giving them an excellent look at her ass and probably a little pussy too. Of course she pretends it's casual and unintentional but she will up her game a bit if she starts to see a reaction. Its fun to watch. She has never put on that little show for a guy by himself or a group of guys. Way to many lurkers, jerkers and creeps.