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2 pointsHi Love, I'm sorry your experiences have been so difficult. I think what you have described is not unusual but certainly not representative of 80% of those in the lifestyle. What are the odds that you have three bad experiences with multiple interactions? I don't know but that's the lifestyle. There is good, a lot of it, and bad. There are all kinds here in the lifestyle and from what I can see, you are very 'doable'. For me it's all about personality. A big genuine smile, flirtatiousness, an all around approachable person. There isn't a 'sexed up' man in America that can't look past stretch marks (hell,most of our wives have them). Oh and thank you for your understanding about us. In my late 50's and still have 'sexual overdrive'. Not so much a vulture over a carcass, more like a puppy with a new toy. Loveable, cute and brainless. Be very careful, if you actually take your jeans off, I'm likely to pee on the rug. Please don't continue down the path of beating yourself up. It only leads to a very dark of unhappy place. You are sexy. You are attractive. You are you. Frankly, I don't think that's the issue here. Try to focus on what else it might be. Don't just assume it's your appearance, because, again, it's not that. Yes, men are average. And yet you sexy ladies keep coming back for more. Thank god!
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2 pointsI never understood that mentality. If a woman isn't interested in me, I'm just not interested in her. For her to turn me on, it has to be mutual. I wouldn't have a good time if I dragged someone to golf with me who hated golf. Same idea.
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2 pointsYou got everything you wanted and more. Then, you find yourself troubled by the 'more' part. She'll get to you, but not if you're going to complain after the first excursion. Ever think of being happy for her (and yourself) instead of these self indulgent contemplations where you pity yourself. Just because you feel an emotion does not mean you need to indulge it. I'm not trying to be mean, but your behavior is pretty selfish and don't think for a moment she doesn't realize this. "You gave him a better blow job than I get so to make things even we have a threesome with a girl !" Say it out loud and you might begin to understand. Curious no description of the intercourse they had. That speaks volumes. Simply stated, you're not ready for this until you grow up a smidgen. Lots of good advice here including not doing this any more for a while. Lastly, you're NOT more kinky than she is. Not by a long shot.
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2 pointsNo. However, there are now "real world-data" from first responders etc, just published. The first dose provides about 80% protection at 14 days. The second dose pushes that to 90% at 14 days. https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/70/wr/mm7013e3.htm Assuming that immunity is the same as unable to transmit--and that is an hypothesis, the probability that two of the four not immune--one to be potentially infected with the virus and one to catch the virus is pretty low--a fraction of 3%, depending on how well-or badly behaved the non-immune person was in the prior couple of weeks. Dr. Fauci is not going to tell you what's safe. Remember, he also led the national effort against HIV/AIDS.
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2 pointsWe have never been party people and enjoy contact with one couple at a time. Our best most exciting experiences have been with newbies, first timers with curious wives. We had met a couple last year just before shut down, their first time ever meeting a couple and her first time doing anything with a woman. When we left we had a tentative time we would meet for more fun. We enjoyed them as a couple and they liked that we didn’t push any situation. Through lockdown Linda kept contact with the wife and spoke with her many times. I kept saying to just text I don’t like people who might think we are going to answer every call. With all this going on it was good for them, Linda too, to have social calls. Now we are all vaccinated and plans are in for a second meeting. We are looking forward to some fun with them and according to the phone calls it’s all the wife can think of doing.
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1 pointNope, I've pretty much said the same to women in similar situations. See, what is happening is common. In a new and sexually charged environment someone often 'performs' for the new person in the group. Then, because they actually did what was expected of them, just not in the way they were expected to, the other person is 'feeling ' hurt. If you're going to travel to the edge, you cannot complain if you get your nose bloodied. He wanted a new experience, he got one. As far as what she did in a sexually charged environment, good for her. As many have suggested, be happy for her. What ever happened to 'no crime, no foul' ? This was one time, one night, which by your own admission, went on for hours. I tell ya, one more person tells me how their spouse really came through, the sex was so good the neighbor needed a cigarette, only to bemoan some irrelevant point because they cannot stop themselves from overthinking. Sheesh pal, she had a great time, you had a great time and the other guy did to. That is often a rare thing.
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1 pointIt's kind of disheartening the number of responses that are essentially telling the OP that his feelings are irrelevant, and that the ONLY consideration is whether she's happy. If this had been a woman posting about the a husband that wasn't a very attentive lover and was far more into other women, the streets would be flooded with compassion and the husband would be universally branded as a bad person. While not entirely surprising, this lack of compassion and blaming is sad.
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1 pointFor us, we consider sex with others as different, not necessarily better, although it certainly has aspects that are physically and emotionally better. Overall, the relationship my wife and I have forms the core of our lives, but it isn't and could never be everything. How could I, for instance, give her a lesbian experience, physically or emotionally? That core relationship has become better because we've opened up to letting us have fun with others.
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1 pointMy wife and I talked about that. We have a fantasy where I would suck a guy hard before he entered her. We share this time to time during sex and right before she is about to orgasm and it really gets us both off. I’m not exactly bi but I would welcome an experience like that.
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1 pointAgreed, it seems like the right mindset. My wife and I have not tried a threesome but I hope she will enjoy herself and have a mind blowing experience if and when we try it. I think I would be into both watching and participating. I get off on watching her have pleasure.
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1 pointI don't disagree, Andrew. I also reserve the right to make judgements about people based on their boundaries. After all, someone's behavior shows their character. If a couple is OK with playing with a woman who is bi (no bi action, they just know she is bi), and they are not OK playing with a couple where the guy is bi (no bi action, they just know he is bi), that says something about their attitudes. There is a hang up there. I am not saying it is sin, just that it is a double standard. They are treating bi men differently than bi women. We are not big fans of double standards in general, and when we encounter one, we wonder. I gave up pretending to have no bi interest on profiles because I don't like lying. If a couple is that freaked out simply because I am bi, they are not the couple for us.
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1 pointYou should have expected her enthusiasm with a new partner. She obviously enjoyed herself and responded accordingly and is up for doing it again. You should be happy for her enjoyment not your bruised ego.
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1 pointMy wife is scheduled for April 7 and May 7. I was vaccinated on Feb 16 and March 16, so my two weeks after vax is approaching.
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1 pointI’m not sure where you are on the list, you should still get the vaccine when you can. Unfortunately too many people near us are not getting vaccination and the numbers in NJ are still rising and are the some of the highest in the country. Warm weather is coming and I want to get back to doing normal things like getting back to Gunnisons Beach.
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1 pointHere's my suggestion that I usually give..... have a talk, sober and sitting at the kitchen table. Absolutely NOT pillow talk. Tell her everything you just said. You don't seem the pushy type (kudos!) So just lay it out. Tell her all the things that turn you on. And tell her you want to know what does it for her. Everyone here will tell you that communication is the basics of swinging. You BOTH need to be able to do this without any reservations. Depending on how the conversation goes you can mention that she seems to like the idea of multiple partners. Be sure to emphasize that you love her. And finally be ready to leave it there and come back to it another time. Swinging isn't for everyone and while it can make a good relationship better, it can also burn it to the ground if someone isn't there or has serious reservations. Nervous about it is fine. Fear or doing it because the other spouse wants to, is not a good start.
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1 pointI think your wife was honest. She was sparked up by a new encounter. But her spark may rebound to your benefit. If she is sparky from new sexual encounters, that spark and enthusiasm should carry over to your relationship.
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1 pointHave been thinking about this lately, me and my wife are thinking about giving the lifestyle a try and she wants to do a mfm which I'm cool with but we were talking one night about what really gets her hot and she said watching to guys get it on. So I asked her what she would think about watching a man suck my cock and she thought about it and was wetter than she has ever been and we fucked our brains out just from the thought of it. Don't know if I she find a single or couple. She has said she would like to try a woman as well.
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1 pointI never thought sex with strangers is intimate. My wife has sucked cocks of guys she hardly knows and has eaten plenty of pussy.
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1 pointWe aren’t! Even in the midst of the worst of this situation, my husband and I both agreed it wasn’t the lifestyle that caused this to happen, just a big eye opener and lesson that boundaries were needed In the future. It was a mistake for us to go into it so causally. I think since we have done this for so long and we haven’t had any issues so far, we were just overly confident and didn’t realize that could happen to us. We all played a part in why things went bad and we all learned a lesson I think....
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1 pointIt makes sense to give up on this guy, but please don't give up on the lifestyle.
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1 pointA guy who turned out to live nearby saw Vanna's pictures on the Internet and responded. We began exchanging emails with him, and he sent some pictures. He is in his early 40's and is very well built with a thick cock. Vanna was very excited about meeting him, but at the same time, very nervous because she is shy. Only recently did she agree to allow her pictures to be posted and has been very excited with the comments that we have received. When Vanna finally decided to meet him, we drove to a nearby city and got a room on Friday and were to meet him on Saturday at a bar that he had suggested. He said that a lot of couples meet at this particular place. Before we left, Vanna and I went shopping for something for her to wear. We found a black skirt that came above Vanna's knees (she is a size 6) and a white silk blouse so we could see her nipples through it (she is a 32 c with rather large, dark nipples and areola). She also bought some new black strap-on high heels (about 2 inches). When we got to the hotel on Friday night, we went out for a while and talked about what would be happening on Saturday. We went to the bar where we were to meet him the next night and saw several couples with a second man. We watched both men caressing and touching several women, and we both got very excited. We had great sex Friday night and then again on Saturday morning. We laid out at the pool and had a few drinks getting ready for the meeting. At about 6, we went back to the room where Vanna took a shower, shaved her legs (but not her pussy), and had a drink as we got ready. We had eaten earlier so we would not ruin the buzz as Vanna was very relaxed. Her legs were gleaming and smooth, and I told her not to wear stockings or panties. All she had on was the thin, white silk blouse, the skirt, and the heels. No bra and no panties and no stockings. Her dark nipples were clearly visible through the blouse. She took a sweater with her so that she would not be embarrassed. We went to the bar at about 8:45 and waited for him to arrive. Vanna kept squeezing my hand, asking me if this was what I wanted? I told her that if she were sexed up and excited, I would be comfortable with whatever she did. Chuck came in, and we recognized him immediately from his pictures. I went over and brought him to the table. He sat on one side of Vanna and me on the other. We had a few drinks and talked and got to know each other better. We had several drinks, and Vanna was very relaxed, and I could tell she was losing her inhibitions. The band began playing slow music, and Chuck wanted to dance with her. She looked at me and squeezed my hand, and I told her to go ahead. I walked up to the dance floor so I could get a better look at them. They were dancing slowly, and he had both arms around her waist. His hands were all over her ass, and she was very close to him. They danced a second dance, and I saw them kissing rather passionately. She had her arms around his neck. Her skirt was almost up to her ass when they danced. They came back to the table, and Vanna was flushed. He was obviously very excited too. He had his arm around her, and we began talking for the first time about what he liked about Vanna's pictures. He told us how much he loved her dark nipples, which we could both see through her blouse. Vanna took my hand and put it in her lap. Her skirt had risen to above mid-thigh, and when I felt the inside of her legs, she was very wet. I invited Chuck to touch her, and we both had our hands on her inner thighs with people walking by us looking at him and me feeling her, knowing what we were going to do. We finally decided it was time to go to our room. Chuck wanted us to go back to his place, but we did not know him. I asked him as we were leaving if he had condoms? He said he did. We walked back to our hotel room which was right next door, Chuck on one side of Vanna and me on the other. We both had our arms around her. As I looked at her in the night light, I could clearly see her nipples showing through her blouse. Her legs are magnificent in high heels. Nice calves and thighs and slim ankles. Her toes showed through the strap heels. Very sexy. A few people looked at us as we went through the lobby and rode up in the elevator. No one else got on, and as soon as the door closed, Chuck began kissing her on her neck and rubbing his hand over her very erect nipples. I was mesmerized watching them as she put her arms around his neck. I still had my arm around her waist, but I had a huge erection and found myself rubbing myself with my other hand. The elevator door opened and we walked to our room. As we got in, Chuck held Vanna tight to him and kissed her deeply. It was really a turn-on to hear her moan in excitement. Their kiss lasted a long time. I just stood there and watched. I had always thought that I would join in and want to do things to her at the same time, but I was very excited just watching at first. As they kissed, I want over to Vanna and unbuttoned and then unzipped her skirt, which I pulled down from her waist. She was naked from the waist down. Her luscious ass was there for him and me to see. He moved his hands down to her ass where he began squeezing it and rubbing it while I watched. I continued to rub myself. He ran his hands down around her pussy, which was very wet. They stopped kissing long enough for him to step back to look at her. When he did, I unbuttoned her blouse until it was totally open. Then I pulled it back and exposed her bare breasts to him. I looked down over her shoulders and could see her nipples very dark and hard. He came forward, bent down, and began licking and sucking her nipples. I was holding her breasts up for him to lick and suck, rubbing my dick against her ass while I did it. She was moaning with excitement. I put my hands down between her legs. She was very wet. I told Chuck I wanted him to describe what he wanted to do with her and what he wanted her to do to him. He wanted her to take out his dick. She unzipped his pants, and I moved to the side so I could see. She dropped his pants. He was in his jockey underwear, and his dick was huge. I could see the head through his underwear, and I knew she could. She rubbed it from the outside of his underwear. She pulled his underwear down. They sat side by side, and she began stroking him. His dick was thicker than I had imagined, and the head of his cock was like a small fist. She stroked it as I watched. Then she began stroking both of us. Chuck put his hand between her legs, and she opened wide. She was very wet, and I could see her swollen lips. He told her that he was going to cum, and she told him that's what she wanted. She laid on the floor, and he got down over her with his dick near her tits. She pumped both of us until his dick began to quiver and he started shooting all over her tits. Vanna rubbed his thick cum into her tits. She must have done this for about five minutes while Chuck and I watched. Chuck laid down on the sheet Vanna had put on the floor with his head looking between her legs. She spread her legs and showed him her pussy. She pulled her knees up, and when she did, her cunt and ass were open to him. I took a pillow off the couch and put under her head so she could see Chuck and me. Chuck began exploring her ass with his fingers. She was very wet. Her pussy was swollen even though neither Chuck nor I had played with her much yet. As Chuck began fingering her asshole, I rubbed my fingers over her pussy lips and clit, which were only inches away from Chuck's face. Vanna has thick lips, and I used both hands to spread her lips apart so that she was entirely open for him. I held her pussy lips back so he could begin to eat her. He kept his finger in her ass and began to lick her while I was holding open her cunt. She was moving her ass up into his face, and before I knew it, she was cumming. Chuck continued to lick her juices, and I could feel her orgasm as I held open her pussy. She kept cumming, longer than I remember. She took Chuck's head in her hands and pulled it to her while telling him to put his tongue in deeper. I was erect again, and Chuck's big cock was too. I laid on my back, and Vanna sat on me and put me inside her. Chuck was laying on his side, still fingering her ass. She was holding Chuck's cock in her hand and seemingly could not get over the size of the head and shaft. I was playing with her tits and pulling her nipples while Chuck continued with her ass while she was stroking his cock. All the time, he was telling her how good she smelled, how good she looked, and how he wanted to fuck her. He wanted to fuck her in the ass, but both of us knew that he was too big. I could feel Chuck's finger in her ass while I fucked her. He was moving his finger in and out with each stroke, using her juices to massage her asshole. Vanna was moaning and telling him and me how good it felt. She brought him to his second climax while I was fucking her. She came again, and I shot up in her cunt, deep and hot. Between sessions, we would all lay naked in the bed or on the floor. After a while, things would start again. Chuck would usually begin by kissing her and rubbing her nipples. I would again cup her breasts and hold them up so Chuck could suck her nipples. Vanna's nipples were very sensitive and very dark with all of his sucking. I ate her pussy, and Chuck would rub her ass. As she got more excited, she would pull her legs up and out, and we would switch. Chuck would kneel on the floor in front of her and lick her pussy and asshole. Vanna would be jacking or sucking me off while this was going on. Before morning, I came three times, Chuck four, and Vanna probably five or six. I did not bring a toy, but I will next time. She really wanted to fuck Chuck, but she does not like condoms and did not want to take any chances. She did lick his cock, but would not let him cum in her mouth. We believe he is safe but won't take chances. Vanna told me later that she had made up her mind that she would not let him penetrate her that night. I did not know that, but I understood and respected her feelings. It was a great experience. Chuck is willing to do it again, with or without penetration. There is really something about two men servicing one woman that is very sexy. Vanna and I will be meeting Chuck again soon.
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1 pointMy husband and I are very devout Christians - I teach Sunday School and volunteer a lot of hours. I find nothing conflicting about the lifestyle and Christianity. I am faithful to the man that I love - I choose to have sex with other people but I only love my husband. But nothing is more important to me then my relationship and faith in God and Jesus. I know there are a lot of people in the lifestyle who share these beliefs.
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1 pointLustylearning, you're exactly right about the intent of the original post. While not getting into "religion" here, I will say "religion" is a strict adherance to a specific set of rules. "Christianity" is a way of life knowing freedom through Christ's sacrifice. The trouble with folks on the outside looking at "Christianity" is that they see "Religion: the strict adherance to standards", not the freedom of Christianity. We enjoy the freedom of having 'friends with benefits'. And do not see anything wrong with a couple "sharing" with another couple. It's all done above board and honestly.