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Exactly. Which is why the new member who repeatedly proved they were just here to stir up trouble is no longer with us. Those posts have been removed so we can get back to the subject at hand without all the drama and personal attacks.

The panel we get includes exactly: Chlamydia Gonorrhea Hepatitis B Hepatitis C Herpes HIV Antibody HIV Early Detection HPV Syphilis

Duz anything amaze you on here?? All the males here cum 10X and have 10” cocks. Do u feel unworthy?

We've both been vaccinated. I'm not absolutely sure that if we met someone who really turned us on that we'd require that they be vaccinated - after all, it's their health that would be compromised, not ours. But we'd appreciate them a bit better if they were; it would show they're taking their health and ours a little more seriously.

Good panel. A lot of people miss HPV and herpes testing. I think these are the most likely, but often overlooked.

We would be more than happy to spend some time getting to know you two better. Some people still think that beauty is only on the outside, but in reality, it is something that comes from within. Don't get discouraged, you didn't meet your husband on your first ever date...it took years of meeting people before you found 'the one'. It may take some time (and probably will) before you find 'the couple' where all four of you 'connect'. Keep going and feel free to drop by our house sometime.

How many times can you cum in one outing?

Maybe. In my relationship/marriage now in its 42 year and we're in our late 50's I've learned a few things, literally growing up together. One is that there are things that others get in their relationships that I don't 'get' in mine and vis a versa. Some good, lots bad. I try to focus on what I have, not what I don't have and sometimes that's hard. But in the end the pluses have always outweighed the minuses. I assume she feels the same. She has had mind blowing sex with strangers. Flirted with them in ways she hasn't with me for years. Dressed and opened herself in ways I'd never experienced. That's okay! I find it fascinating and exciting. As an example, she doesn't do anal. But if she did with a 'lover', I'd be surprised and maybe a little hurt at first, but not for long. It's just fucking anal. It's just a fucking blowjob. Sayre's law tells us that "in any dispute the intensity of feeling is inversely proportional to the value of the issues at stake." Look for the positive, try not to draw lines in the sand, be open to possibilities and remember this is all just a hobby. If it stops being fun, find a new hobby and love each other.

This has gotten so exciting... name calling and out right attacks. I guess I wonder how this is helpful to the OP. People come here for ideas, support, discussion and although everyone is entitled to their opinion, this is far beyond that. Just sayin!

I can't speak for more experienced couples, but for us it actually was easier after a few play dates. Maybe 3 total. After that I started overthinking and we slowed way down for a while. (first couple months was daily or every other day with 2 couples we met. We jumped in both feet. I think it was when we stepped back that we could take in what was going on and really appreciate the pro's and con's

From that picture you look hot

There’s nothing at all wrong with you, friend. One problem we’ve noticed since we began getting involved in this kind of thing is there’s no lack of superficial/egotistical/narcissistic jerks involved in “the lifestyle.” Personally, I prefer real in every sense of the word. An ugly mind and soul will ruin anything, no matter how pretty it is on the outside. I’ve got no use for fake anything, and that includes lips, boobs, butts, not to mention attitudes. Take your time. It took us 3-4 years to find our first actual experience, and even then it was with good friends. Be yourself and be patient. Above all, just be yourself.

My wife has been with men that are larger than me ( a bit below average). She has always said that too large can be painful and that a lot of larger guys are selfish lovers. She has always said that girth is the most important then length.

First, I'm surprised there are no responses to this post. My wife and I had a very special connection with another couple. We met Cathy and John during the time we attended child birth classes. We were both pregnant with our first child. We would meet them weekly over several months and became close. They were our same age and lived nearby as well. On weekends John and I would play golf while our wives would spend time together at one of our houses. We typically would return home and all four of us would either cook dinner together or go out to eat. Eventually the wives gave birth about a week apart and we had two beautiful children. We began spending even more time together as we all were involved in the infant child care. All four of us became very close. In fact, Cathey often referred to me as her 'other husband'. It was no secret that both John and I were physically attracted to each other’s spouse. My wife is short and petite while Cathy was a large woman. She had beautiful blue eyes and a gorgeous smile. She also had huge breast. She was actually a bit taller than her husband John. While short, John had an incredible fit body, very muscular and handsome as well. I’m was opposite of John, standing well over six feet but thin. On day John and I returned to his house where our two wives had started dinner and had been drinking a bit. We joined in and were all having a good time. Following dinner, we were seated on the couch with Cathy seated next to me. She started saying how my wife had told her I was a very good kisser and said she wanted to see for herself. Next thing I know, she is kissing me and pressing her boobs against me. I was embarrassed at first but could see my wife and John seated across from us were enjoying what was going on. They then begin kissing as well. As we are making out, Cathy reaches into my pants and is holding my erect dick. Cathy then says to my wife …. You need to see what John is packing. “John show her your cock. He then proceeds to pull down his pants and out springs his huge cock. I was shocked at his size. Cathy then begins pulling my pants down and kneels in front of me and starts giving me head. I looked over and could see that my wife was mesmerized by John’s large penis. It was as if she was examining a rare gemstone. Suddenly Cathy stands up and takes be by the hand and announces that ‘we’re going to give you two some alone time’ and leads me down the hallway to a bedroom. She proceeds to remove her clothes revealing the most gorgeous large boobs I’ve ever seen. I had never been with a large woman like her and was almost paralyzed by her wide hips and large bottom. She went back to giving me oral sex and I realized she could take all of me by deepthroating which I had never experienced before. I could feel I was going to come so I asked her to stop. She then laid next to me as I climbed on top of her with her legs sped apart. Entering her felt very different than my wife. She was extremely wet and I slid in effortlessly. I don’t think I lasted more than twenty seconds before exploding in her. The next thing I remember is my wife shanking me and saying we have to go. It was nearly one in the morning. The next morning, we compared notes. My wife said she really enjoyed making love with John and unless I objected, she said we should continue. She admitted after me prodding her that she had climaxed several times with John and that he was terrific in bed. Well, the four of us enjoyed some extremely sexy times for the next several years. Unfortunately, John received a promotion and he and Cathy moved out of state.

Hi Love, I'm sorry your experiences have been so difficult. I think what you have described is not unusual but certainly not representative of 80% of those in the lifestyle. What are the odds that you have three bad experiences with multiple interactions? I don't know but that's the lifestyle. There is good, a lot of it, and bad. There are all kinds here in the lifestyle and from what I can see, you are very 'doable'. For me it's all about personality. A big genuine smile, flirtatiousness, an all around approachable person. There isn't a 'sexed up' man in America that can't look past stretch marks (hell,most of our wives have them). Oh and thank you for your understanding about us. In my late 50's and still have 'sexual overdrive'. Not so much a vulture over a carcass, more like a puppy with a new toy. Loveable, cute and brainless. Be very careful, if you actually take your jeans off, I'm likely to pee on the rug. Please don't continue down the path of beating yourself up. It only leads to a very dark of unhappy place. You are sexy. You are attractive. You are you. Frankly, I don't think that's the issue here. Try to focus on what else it might be. Don't just assume it's your appearance, because, again, it's not that. Yes, men are average. And yet you sexy ladies keep coming back for more. Thank god!

It's kind of disheartening the number of responses that are essentially telling the OP that his feelings are irrelevant, and that the ONLY consideration is whether she's happy. If this had been a woman posting about the a husband that wasn't a very attentive lover and was far more into other women, the streets would be flooded with compassion and the husband would be universally branded as a bad person. While not entirely surprising, this lack of compassion and blaming is sad.

I personally don’t think it is good idea to bring others into the mix unless your sex life together is already top notch! The only thing that can fix that is you two alone. It is only going to lead to jealousy and insecurities bringing others in if you feel there is something lacking between you two. I also think it is perfectly normal for someone to pull out all the stops when having sex with a new partner! Whether is it a new person they are dating or a one off encounter. Would you not want to make it a memorable experience the first time you were with someone new? This was your fantasy in the first place! If she is willing to agree with it she should on her terms. If you don’t like her terms then you shouldn’t go through with it. If it is not fun and exciting for her why should she go through with it? The way she responded to the suggestion of a mff does not at all sound like it is a fantasy of hers and it shouldn’t have to be. Going through with having one is probably only going to cause more tension between you. Swinging isn’t about you got to do this so I should be able to do this. It should only be about what you both want together and sometimes that is not going to be the same thing. I honestly think the best thing you can do atm is just work on getting the fire burning again between the two of you and put having others join you on hold.

I'd say that the kinky stuff needs to be on hold until the rest of the relationship is solid. Sex is great and all. But no matter how great, getting the relationship right is more important.