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This reminded me of a couple of T shirts (I am a great collector) that I have seen: Science: Just like magic, but real Science doesn't care how you feel about it

...and cheating isn't swinging, no matter how much you may think it is. Cheating and swinging are at the complete opposite ends of the spectrum.

It finally happened! My wife and I have been to a few swinger clubs, but she only allowed people to watch never touch, this went on for a few years. We were talking and I was explaining the way we should look at is that adding another guy is like me using her toys on her, use it, have fun then put it away. I asked her how about an erotic massage in a nice hotel by me and another guy? To my surprise and excitement, she said she thinks she could do that! My wife is a 42 yr old Colombian with large man-made C cups, thin waist and a med/lg ass. She only had 4 lovers in her past and all of them just did vanilla sex. Boy did I expand her world when we got married LOL! She is absolutely beautiful with a heart of gold, so I wanted to make sure this was amazing but most of all safe. I came up with limits so she would feel comfortable and safe. First, she would be on the massage table, when he came in and she would be blindfolded as she gets embarrassed easily. Second, the guy would not talk unless asked something by me or her. Third, no rough stuff, just gentle massage. I would allow oral and fingering on her by him but oral on him only if she initiated it. Fourth, I told her at the end after we make her cum, I would ask her Green light, Yellow light or Red light? Green would be to continue with sex from both of us, yellow is sex with me only but he can watch and touch, and Red was thank you but he leaves as I want only my husband now. Lastly, I would meet with the guy before the massage and if I felt the slightest hesitation, I would call it off. She liked the rules. I then started looking when “S” PM’d me. He said he was flying into San Antonio on business and was willing to help. We PM’d back and forth while giving me advice as he said he had helped others get introduced into the LS. He answered every question I had so we made plans to meet when he landed and give the massage to my wife later that evening (only time we both had before he returned home). When I met him a few hours prior to the massage he was so polite that my anxiety level went to zero. We again went over the wife’s limits I came up with and he had no problem with any of them. My wife was blindfolded and on the massage table with a towel over her ass when he arrived. He immediately went to the restroom and undressed and washed his hands. When he came out, massage music was playing, and I had those battery powered candles lighting the room. To make her comfortable with another man’s hands on her we started with her neck and back. After about 10 minutes we moved the towel covering her ass and we began to massage her lower half. We moved slow going from her ass back up to her back then down her legs. I bent her knee moving her lower leg inward at an angle and her pussy became exposed to him for the first time. The light from the candles made her already wet pussy glisten. As we rubbed her inner thighs we would graze her pussy lips…..she was SOOO wet. When we flipped her we began working on her breasts. I was getting so turned on watching another man touch my woman. “S” moved nice and slow over her nipples then down her arm as I did the same. Her nipples were becoming hard as we lightly massaged each breast. We went lower toward her landing strip pubic hair but being careful not to go too far in order to drive her wild. When we moved to her legs, we started with her feet then moved up. We bent both of her legs inward at an angle so the bottom of her feet were touching each other…..this opened her pussy wide. We again worked her inner thighs but this time moving our hands right over her pussy lips……this drove me wild seeing him touch her. I then went down on her and she was drenched in her juices, NOT just wet….drenched, and it tasted so good. At that point I looked up at “s” and offered my wife’s pussy to him. He began to eat her out and I saw her mouth open and could tell she was in pure ecstasy. He wrapped his lips around her clit and sunk his fingers deep inside her…..she let out an amazing moan. I got out the clit vibrator and started to tease her clit while “S” bent two of his fingers to massage her g-spot. I handed the vibrator to “S” while I started to massage her breasts and nipples. “S” kept up the fingering mixed with licking until she had the most intense orgasm, I have ever seen her have! She about rolled off the table it was so intense! She motioned for him to stop but continued to twitch for over a minute. After we let her calm down, I moved her to the edge of the table spreading her legs apart and started to fuck her. She was so soaking wet I slid right in. I looked over and she had “S” cock in her hand slowly playing with it…..I had to think of baseball in order not to cum right there LOL!! “S” then moved to the head of the table to hold her head as it was falling off the table…..what a gentleman! She grabbed his arms and had another orgasm while I came deep in her soaking pussy. “S” smiled at me and quietly left as my wife and I held each other. It was perfect. She told me she LOVED the experience and wants to do it again ?. We went home and fucked two more times. The next day “S” texted me to check on my wife to make sure she was doing good. I can’t tell you enough how much I appreciate “S” in helping us take the next step……thanks man!!……D&J

My girl and I are both bi. Now I am really into women, and would take woman any day over a guy, but I do like guys--well, cocks actually. My first actual sexual encounter was with my best friend when I was 12 & 13 and we were just discovering sex. We'd steal nude girlie mags and whack off together, which progressed to each of us taking turns playing the girl as we lubed up and pumped between each other's legs and ass. No actual penetration. Then we heard about blow jobs so we tried it out on each other. This lasted for about a year until we read an article on homosexuality. We were appalled. Neither one of us wanted to be queer, so that stopped. Fast forward a dozen years and I was married, in grad school in NYC and my wife and I became close friends with a gay guy-very nice looking, classy, with money and great sense of humor. My wife was a natural fag hag, and they became close friends. About a year into the friendship, she took off one weekend and left us to fend for ourselves. We had a bottle of scotch and wound up blowing each other. That started a relationship that lasted for almost a year until he got a real boyfriend, who got jealous and turned me in to my wife. I don't know why, but she didn't leave me. In any case, that was my first adult bi experience, and I was liking it, but again it stopped. About 6 years ago, mired in a sexless marriage, and getting internet savvy, I started hooking up with other a few net tramps (tramp being a good word and bi guys. I was amazed at how many bi guys there were. Finally, out of the marriage. I was introduced to my current girl. She had been into the lifestyle with her husband. She was bi. As the relationship progressed, I confessed that I was bi, too. She was curious how that would go and suggested a 3 way with another bi guy. I loved the idea and set it up. Since then, we've invited numerous bi guys to join us. She digs having two men take care of her and apparently gets turned on by the guys playing and blowing each other. So after this very lengthy introduction, I'm wondering how many couples like us are out there? How women feel about men doing each other and how many guys have done bi or are curious, and just general reactions to what I've written. There seems to be no problem with the girls getting it on, and I'm wondering if there really is no problem with the boys getting it on also?

This is the wife of a bi man who told me early on in our relationship that he wanted another man's dick orally but, was will to go all the way. He didn't know what my reaction would be. Consequencely my reply after some thought was, the subconscious mind and one's fantasiese are cosely related and meant to be explored. This was an open door invitation to our first experience. We immediately signed up for SLS and planned to meet a single bi-courious man at his apartment for some afternoon delight. He was a nice looking man, very gracious and made us feel right at home. We started by take off our clothes and laid naked on the bed with all six hand's exploring each other. I saw my husband going down on his hard dick and I got on the other side. We sucked him to completion. It was a rememberable first time and now we've graduated to an ongoing relationship with another couple. They're both bi. I think bi guys are hot.

Yes, most definitely! This is how my husband eventually joined in with me.

Thanks guys. She did initially go to her gynecologist, got the swab, so presumably got the right antibiotics. We are pretty honest about our extra-curricular activities, so no worries there. Definitely always practise safe sex as much as is possible. Been reading a bit about other partners taking off the condom in mid flow, which seems a bit suss, but anyway, try to be as careful as we can be. Thanks for your care and attention. Love this community....

In response to an abbreviated comments; yes we respect people’s devious about what goes into their bodies. So please respect ours that we don’t want unvaccinated people in ours. it is difficult not to lump ‘non-vaxers’ into a single group because largely we see the choice divided between a public health/safety vs. a personal freedom debate. I certainly understand the reluctance to receive the vaccine due to limited info on side or long term effects. I also have the opinion that those sitting on the fence should decide to vaccinate or wear mask and social distance indefinitely. Yes, very much like a Scarlet letter. But, at least in our experience locally and with regional travel, this is not the case. For example; as health care workers we are encouraged to receive flu shots every year. Until a few years ago there were no consequences if an employee opted out (either by choice or for medical/religious reasons). Not long after SARS it was mandated that we get the shot annually OR wear a mask at all times on duty between 11/1-3/31 to protect our patients, visitors, and coworkers. Now when you get a flu shot, you are given a color coded “badge buddy” (scarlet letter) that must be attached to your ID and visibly displayed while at work. If you don’t have correct badge or mask you are counseled once, then suspended w/o pay if caught again. Only tome mask can be removed is during meal in designated break area or cafeteria. Guess what? Annually we have greater than 95% compliance which is up from about 67% before the policy. Freedom of choice is still in place but consequences are clear for those not participating. There are tons of articles on herd immunity. It supports other statements on Polio, Small Pox, etc. noted here. With new debated on Vaccination Passports, I think we’ll see more of this. I believe that this passport is unconstitutional, however that does not prevent private operators such as airlines, cruise operators, amusement parks, etc. from make vaccine documentation a part of their T&C for accessing their goods or services. This is quickly evolving and we should start seeing how things like this shake out over the next few months. njbm: We would not play with people who are unvaccinated. I suspect that a large number of lifestylers agree. We agree. As noted above.

We went to Sunny Rest in the Poconos a few years back with a couple who had a friend who were members. I understand the comment about regulars, the only people we were approached by were friends of the member. You can get a day pass if you want to check it out, you won’t have a place to store your clothes other than your car. I didn’t see lockers to rent. Plenty of RV and tents if you are campers. We shared a cabin with our friends, not sure of cost, they treated. The cabin was clean and the resort was well kept. I just wonder how they are handling the Covid precautions and how much it will change the vibe. I am thinking that by summer indoor clubs may be open. The resort says no sex or lewdness, only nudity and that it’s suitable for families, not my experience.

Don’t even get me started on the Instagram type filters/overlays on the photos......

Agreed. Certain things are a turn off; wedding pics on lifestyle site. Pets, family, kids toys, and above all filth in a house. Laundry strewn about, messy kitchen, etc. see lots of pics in the bathroom. One of the recent was a sexy booty but looked like the bathroom hadn’t been cleaned since they moved in. Not a square inch ig counter space and looked like 6 months of toothpaste spit splash back on the mirror, gross! Immediately make me wonder about personal hygiene if that’s the kind of house they keep. to go along with Facebook mentality and texting talk...hate, hate, hate when people write like the txt; U up? U look hot, Wanna fuck? Send me u pics.....

Good questions. Bacterial vaginosis is the consequence of a change in the resident microbes in the vagina. First, the vagina is "self cleaning". The normal flora help: some produce hydrogen peroxide in small quantities that help kill the undesirable microbes. What happens in BV is that the pre-existing delicate ecosystem gets replaced by some anaerobic organisms that prefer to multiply without oxygen. As they take over, the previous flora are forced out. The problem arises knowing which anaerobes are the problem. If they are bacteria, then clindamycin will help. If they are protozoan, then tinidazole is likely to help. If the problem is candidiasis--which can be confused with BV--then fluconazole is the answer. The challenge is making the *correct* identification, treating for an adequate period of time, and then letting the normal flora re-emerge. Some reassurances: it will eventually resolve. Some advice: make sure that your health care professional is experienced in treating this. It may take an experienced GYN to look at the fluid under a microscope. Some logical things: avoid behaviors that favor an anaerobic environment. If discharge is a problem, then wear absorbent yet breathable cotton underwear and change often. otherwise, it may make more sense to go without and wear skirts/dresses and not trousers. No tight yoga pants, bike shorts etc. Shower and dry immediately after exercise. and so on. Avoid home remedy douches. Generally, avoid douches altogether. Yes, sex can predispose to BV. Yes, sex with more than one partner can predispose to BV. But sex is not necessary to develop BV.

? I love that tag! ?

We were with friends this past weekend. I credit her as my first, my first threesome and my first bisexual experience. She was my introduction into swinging and give her credit indirectly for me being married to my wonderful husband. She came with her current boyfriend, not the guy who she was with years ago for our threesome. I had seen her many times at parties on football weekends up at school. This is the first time in years that she has come to visit us and it was fun to talk about that first time when we shared a bed in a hotel because of a snow storm and I woke up with her nudging my legs apart and her mouth attacking me.

not yet :(.......but watched 3 guys so far eat and finger her pussy.....those were awesome

My partner was always asking about my fantasies ... he's big into fulfilling them for me :-))... and one of mine was being with 2 men. Turns out he was bi, but didn't feel comfortable telling me that until I brought up being with 2 guys. Long story short he had been e-mailing another bi guy and we all decided to get together and it was (and is) fantastic. Not only to I get double the attention some of the time, but I get to watch them as well, which I find extremely HOT. Love it! Of course we were VERY lucky to find the 'right' bi guy who just clicked wonderfully with both of us. I would think that finding a bi guy that clicked with both partners could really be a challenge at times.

My experience started around 13 or so very similar senario.My Bi-ness never re-appeared untill during a very good night of lovemaking I broached the subject with my wife.Looking for telltale signs all I saw was a BIG curiousity,not disgust.Being bi for gals is o.k. why not guys? Now we play with select single bi males,bi or staight couples.Wife really enjoys bi threesums wher everyone shares.

Put us down for thinking it's Hot,our problem is finding the other bi male,but we our also new,so we're sure we'll come across someone

I'd say hot; have always wanted to explore while a woman watched and eventually joined in. To me, giving oral looks like so much fun...being in control!! I loved the youth story also. I think back and wish i had a buddy during my early to mid teen years that I could have jacked off with and explored with as well.

Fem half here.... I think it is hot... hubby is orally bi. I am not interested in seeing anal penetration between males at all, but watching the oral is very erotic to me. Unfortunately it has been rather difficult for us to find another bi male. It isn't something that is discussed openly. head bang

Well, We're both bi so our answer is "hot".