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You are not a snob by not having sex with someone you are not attracted too! Be as picky as you want. It is your body and your choice. No shortage of other people out there. Take your time and find the right ones so it is worth while.

Our favorite Florida club is trying something new. They are organizing a Friday evening party especially for bi men. From their e-mail announcement (punctuation and spelling mistakes are theirs, not mine): Please note that this is a Bi Party, not a straight party. You must be open minded to attend its a no judgement zone and if you judge you will be asked to leave and not allowed back. Any male who attends must be bi sexual or bi curious. Please do not invite others, it's a invitation party only. This party was created for a safe place for bi sexual or bi curious men to explore their sexuality. In order to keep an atmosphere that allows safety, privacy and freedom we ask that no straight men attend. I find it notable that they include "we ask that no straight men attend".

We have been to some house parties already and have found them to be a lot of fun. The particular crowd on hand seems to have a huge impact on the "vibe" of the particular event; lesson learned for us has been to go with no expectations and an open mind.

If you're going to do a little hotwifing at the bar we recommend wearing a "Hotwife" necklace. Pointing to that instantly dispels that fear That's why we prefer hotels that cater to business travelers. A bunch of fired up drunk guys at a football game? Nope. Important to remember. It's just a NSA hookup.

Some people get annoyed if the pre-meeting questioning becomes like a job interview. I think that you have to meet a couple to get a good feeling as to who they are and what they are about. Some people who we were doubtful about on paper were absolutely charming in person. We find that we do better with committed couples who are in a romantic relationship with each other. Sometimes we met two single swingers helping each other out. Usually their relationship fizzled before we could meet or soon after our meeting. Hey, maybe it was us that led to their demise. Never thought of that. Doubtful, though. Before covid, we traveled extensively. We’ve met several couples from Calgary, some lifestyle, some not, but universally really great people. You have a great pool of friendly people to work with!

Other than age, he is from Brooklyn and she is from Jersey, so they have to be fun.

If it isn't working, for whatever reason, just walk away. Otherwise it's called 'taking one for the team' and is one of our very few remaining rules. Don't compromise, there are just WAY too many men that are more than happy to have been in his place. Just keep looking and the right one will turn up.

Everyone is allowed to have their preferences.

If you're not attracted, just say thanks but no thanks and walk away. You want your first time to be enjoyable, it won't be if you're not into it. Other guys will come by, I promise you.

Great questions. But we have also experienced the opposite. Not less intense but more. The sex between us is explosive after sex with playmates. The high lasts for a week or more and is reignited when we re-visit the memories of the playtime evenings together. IE 'remember when you...that was fucking hot' then we get all horny for each other all over.

I think our experience is generally the opposite, and from discussions of "reclamation sex" as a phenomenon, I think it's generally the opposite for a lot of people. We might have 2x or 3x the normal amount of sex for a week or so after playing, with more casual dirty talk, etc.

That really does not address my point, though. Let's take sexual orientation out of it with an example. Let's say couple A is really into BDSM. Let's say that Couple B is not, and it is even a turn off for them. Couple A says "No problem, we like regular sex just fine." Couple B then says, "No, you guys are into BDSM, therefore, we feel uncomfortable playing with you, even if you promise no BDSM." I know plenty of women with zero interest into sex with other females. To a one, they are willing to play with couples where the other woman is interested. This is about guys not wanting to naked in the presence of a bi guy. Do I call it "homophobia"? I am not doing that, but there is some level of discomfort that stops them from wanting to swap with a couple where the guy is bi. What if they are in separate rooms? They still are unwilling to play with them? It is not something rational. It is some sort of hang up. And it is a double standard. Gay men and bi men are simply less acceptable to Americans, even in swinging. And if you don't think there is a anti male-homosexual bias in swinging then you have not been paying attention. Again, I am no longer willing to lie and say I am 100% straight, that makes me uncomfortable. If some man is uncomfortable having sex with my wife because I am bi, neither of us want to play him or his wife.

It really depends on the guys. For us, he will top or bottom with the right guy. She loves to see him do either, but mostly it is oral.

I think that if straight women can play with the husbands of bi women, straight men ought to be able to play with the wives of bi men.

You're right of course. I think it would be fairly easy to tell who is there for open minded fun and who is trying to pull a fast one.

The answer to that might be, "You suck my dick *then* you can fuck my wife!"

We canceled out on Mexico now for the third time in the past year. Last week at the Casino, during the week, we went to the 360 View Chophouse for a snack and drink at 11 PM. From there, down to blackjack and craps... Julie can feel more comfortable with masks on and late during the week. It tended to be cool so Julie's nipples really popped. There were maybe an 1/2 dozen couples of various ages around the casino and a few dozen men. There really was very little reaction about Julie's dress...... Robb

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Definitions of bi are all over the place. Some feel that to be truly bi you must be able to fall in love with the same sex. Others feel that if you so much as look at a cock with slurp in your mind you're gay. What matters is what you feel about yourself. Many males who feel within that they are straight are not averse to sucking a cock in the right sexy and heated atmosphere with women beside them and encouraging. Straightness that does not include tasting the same sex severely limits the geography of sex. There are so many sexual lands and combinations that can never be visited if you are completely straight sexually. To die with nary a glimpse or visit to those lands seems like such a waste. So I do not waste time on cramped definitions or minds.