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Yes but it's all people we know right now. We feel fine with it but the bar and club scene still doesn't feel right to us.

They are sincere and very nervous, he is more willing but is respectful of her wants. They invited us to their house which is fine for us and I sensed the nervousness immediately. We let her bring up the first mention of sex, she asked general questions about other couples we met. We stayed away from talking about her friend who we were with. She asked how to start, do we just get naked and I suggested she undress Alan then me and we can take it from there. She said to let her husband undress me. We tried to make it fun, again she was very nervous. She undressed Alan leaving his underwear on, her husband undressed me completely and hesitantly touched me. I said it was our turn and she agreed but asked to leave her panties on. She questioned what next, I jokingly answered watch TV. We continued to some soft play, not total play. It was me who suggested we stop, it was already to much for her to absorb. I know she was relieved that we didn’t push going all the way.

Fauci says if all parties are vaccinated then no need for mask. We plan to apply this principal to swinging!

My husband often refers to himself as being orally bi, he has no interest in fucking a man or being fucked by a man, but in the heat of the moment he is okay with sucking dick with me or letting a man suck his dick with me. For me its hot, Its an instant puddle in my panties. I could seriously watch him suck dick all day. And I like when I get a bisexual guy. I am bi and my husband enjoying sex is fun for me too.

Main stream swinging is an oxymoron. Swinging is not main stream. Within swinging there are diverse interests. Bisexuality by both genders, BDSM, hot wifing, vixen/stag, dom/sub. Many of these sub interests are currently of no interest to me, but if I am open minded enough to participate in the lifestyle, I owe it to participants in these subgroups to be tolerant and supportive of their interests and not denigrate them.

We just finalized plans to hit our favorite club very soon. Originally planned to go before the end of this month but life gets in the way. We're vaxxed and I feel fairly invincible. It's been over a year for us. ?

You are wonderful mentors and guides. The LS would be a happier place if every mentor-newby relationship looked like this. Blessings to all of you.

My wife gets her second vaccine next week. We have followed the news avidly, which means we have a touch of PTSD. It may take us a bit of time to get back on the horse.

We have had two threesomes recently with a vaccinated gentleman. We had no hesitation about it. (We are also vaccinated, of course.)

Tossing a few cents into the bucket... It seems like you are going down this road with this couple now, so this is perhaps post-facto. I don't think there's any risk in proceeding with this couple in the sense of more people knowing about your swinging life. They already know. Playing with them isn't going to change that of course. I wouldn't suspect some sort of stalking going on in regards to her being at the gym at the same time. It's just coincidence, and more likely to happen than people suspect. Your lives in terms of general schedules are probably vaguely similar, with free time slots being vaguely similar. Thus, showing up at the gym is more likely than we might otherwise suspect. Based on what you've told us, she seems sincere. Nervous, but sincere.

We were hesitant at first and then loosened up and played as normal. The conversation originally was pandemic based with how safe we all were, the vaccines and reactions, I think the same as all people who took everything seriously. It was very freeing to being naked and touching another person. Once playing started my mind erased any hesitancy.

My girl loves it she pressured me for a long time to try it with her she started putting me in panties and inviting hot women over we'll before you know it she had me sucking cock then she surprised me with black cock! Our relationship grew stronger and so did our love life!

Just another way of your body letting you know that it’s enjoying itself. Sheets can be washed, experiences like that should not be looked down on because your body had a release. If he’s like me, he took it as a compliment, then did a load of laundry. Kudos to you for having a great experience.

I still think she's a sexual deviant

Yesterday after work, I WFH, went to the gym and my new friend was there. I apologized for not following up on getting together. I suggested a Starbucks after the gym. There goes the calories. Even if she told me before I wanted to get to know the real Why they wanted to meet us. I already knew about the attempt with their friends that she stopped, I wanted to know the real reason. She said they never thought of swinging, never. When her friends opened up to her she thought it was a crazy idea that they were having sex with others. The others were Alan and me I’m thinking. Her friends told her how freeing it was, having been married 25 years and only being with one person. She mentioned menopause has changed their sex life, something new ignited a newness. They questioned the why and the why nots. I asked why she wants to be with a woman, I had asked her the last time. She explained she never thought of ever being with a girlfriend then all the lesbian relationships on TV and movies and her friend telling her she should open her mind. She said she was ready to explore two years ago, just couldn’t with her friends. Asked about her husband and seeing him with me, she hesitated and said yes she wants that. I felt like I was interviewing her, asked what she really wanted, her scenario. She said she didn’t know and wanted me to go slow like we did with her friends. I went home happy I saw her again, she is a very nice and funny person. The more we talked the more I liked her.

I have some clarification on how our contact happened. Contrary to what I thought was stalking she told me she has been too nervous to approach me for over two years, one of those was during lockdown. Her friends confided in her how they were looking to find a couple, and approached her and her husband. She said that her and her husband were not into anything like that. What happened was her friend telling her how they finally met us. She swears it was coincidence that she belonged to the same gym I belong to. I still don’t remember telling anyone I belong to the gym, possible? Maybe. Things changed after her friends met us. They kept telling her that the experience was what they needed. The way she explained it to me, her husband agreed to play with the couple we met. She backed out several times. She couldn’t go through with it, being friends was a bigger problem. She said the closest they got to playing was her husband encouraged her to play and he wouldn’t do anything unless she was comfortable. The night she was prepared to go all the way our friends husband got as far as putting his hand in her pants when she froze again. That is when my name came up. Better to try with strangers than friends. I explained we are more open to women who are curious and that our focus would be on that if we meet. She said she understood, she knew that is what we did with her friend. Is this the real story, it sounded feasible. She sounded sincere in wanting to get involved with any pressure and without a friendship that could be ruined.

I got a text response but I needed more so I called her. She claims she told me about her friend when we met, something I don’t remember if she did 2 years ago. She said she had a friend who went to my gym, again I don’t remember. I asked why didn’t she and her husband play with her friend and she said she tried alone and it didn’t work out. Her friend, the one at my gym, couldn’t do it. We then got into a discussion about turning 50 and changes we go through and the pandemic and what we have been doing. I told her we keep our private life private and I hate that too many people know what we do and she apologized and said she should have reached out not knowing both me and her friend would be at the gym at the same time. She swore nobody was stalking me, she thinks her friend just built up her nerve to approach me. Then she thanked me for being so nice when we met knowing how scared she was. Alan suggested I talk to the gym friend.

That really does not address my point, though. Let's take sexual orientation out of it with an example. Let's say couple A is really into BDSM. Let's say that Couple B is not, and it is even a turn off for them. Couple A says "No problem, we like regular sex just fine." Couple B then says, "No, you guys are into BDSM, therefore, we feel uncomfortable playing with you, even if you promise no BDSM." I know plenty of women with zero interest into sex with other females. To a one, they are willing to play with couples where the other woman is interested. This is about guys not wanting to naked in the presence of a bi guy. Do I call it "homophobia"? I am not doing that, but there is some level of discomfort that stops them from wanting to swap with a couple where the guy is bi. What if they are in separate rooms? They still are unwilling to play with them? It is not something rational. It is some sort of hang up. And it is a double standard. Gay men and bi men are simply less acceptable to Americans, even in swinging. And if you don't think there is a anti male-homosexual bias in swinging then you have not been paying attention. Again, I am no longer willing to lie and say I am 100% straight, that makes me uncomfortable. If some man is uncomfortable having sex with my wife because I am bi, neither of us want to play him or his wife.

It really depends on the guys. For us, he will top or bottom with the right guy. She loves to see him do either, but mostly it is oral.

I think that if straight women can play with the husbands of bi women, straight men ought to be able to play with the wives of bi men.

I'm not sure that having no interest in male-on-male sex necessarily equals "homophobic." I wouldn't attend a swingers event like this - just as I wouldn't go to a gay sex party/bath house. It's not my thing, but all the power to those that desire it. Live and let live. I love my gay friends and family members and fully support them in everything they do. To me, men are gross, smelly, hairy, disgusting animals, while women are sacred and beautiful flowers. I find the idea of sex with another man to be revolting and I thank god everyday that he designed woman to be sexually attracted to us repulsive creatures. Is it still okay to be a heterosexual male?

I know I've said this before..... but there are a lot of people in the LS that are homophobic. Lots of couples won't play with a bi/bi curious man. There are lots of men that are indeed curious but we know couples that won't play with a couple if the guy is anything but straight. The women have said they don't want a guy looking at his butt. There are a LOT of guys that would recoil in horror if another guy touched their junk and would likely leave if their dicks touched. We have several FWB that have said VERY tentatively that they have always wondered what it would be like if.......I am straight but after a couple of drinks and in the right situation, who knows what could happen. We like experimenting and it's why we belong to sls and fet life. My wife is bi and it's probably the reason we started swinging. One of our 1st trips to a club we ended up in a puppy pile and one person was a mtf trans guy. I kinda regret not seeing where that might have gone. Watching her bang another girl was really hot.

Not sure why it’s so difficult to understand why the hosting club only wants bi-comfortable, open-minded, men and women in attendance at a bi male themed party. They simply want to create an environment where m/m play can go on without gawkers or those who feel it may be fun sport to harass, name call, or ridicule. Worse, would be the outraged reaction of a homophobic male if approached by another male. So, if you are triggered by the word “Safe” and insulted at the very notion – maybe you aren’t the guy to be there on said Friday evening…