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Sounds like you are interested in swinging or at least hotwifing. You can tell your wife that this line of thinking turns you on. Be careful not to insinuate that she cheated on the cruise. It would be easy for her to take it the wrong way.

And she might be embarrassed in retrospect, no matter how hot you think it is.

Personally I'd rather be known as a swinger than an adulterer.

I'm going to do a follow up to a my follow up: Attended Caliente in March of 2021 Everything from my past posts still apply. There was a cold snap the weekend we went. It seems like they have put new flooring in all the hotel rooms which is awesome. The carpet was looking dated. The rooms do look a little dated still but the flooring really helps and you won't be in the room that much. The food is still outstanding. Masks were worn but most people were not wearing them. Staff was, but it was personal choice if you wanted to wear one. I didn't see a single instance of any problems with people wearing or not wearing a mask. A lot of people had masks that matched their clothing or looked sharp, I went with the LED scrolling mask with my SDC screen name on it. Sadly though I didn't wear it enough to have fun with it! We stayed Friday to Sunday. We arrived several hours late due to an minor emergency. We checked in, had dinner at the restaurant and went to our room. We changed, got dressed up and went to the Club house at about 11:30 pm. There were space heaters outside on the patios of the clubhouse. There were tables, chairs, a bar, and the DJ in the covered area on the first floor. The clubhouse was fairly empty. We laughed because we drove to Caliente, had dinner, dressed up and missed the party. Please note when I say Clubhouse I mean the main Clubhouse that has a restaurant, bar, lounge, sports bar and night club inside. The nightclub was closed due to covid but everything else was open. The gift shop was open and we browsed. The Mrs. picked up a sequined sparkle purse to match her dress. We had a really nice conversation with the gift shop employee. Nothing but praise for the staff. Saturday was much busier and there was a lot of people out and about. The pool was empty because it was cold but the heated conversation pool and hot tubs were full but not over crowded. People stayed in the covered area to keep out of the wind. Recently Caliente opened up Club Rouge. It is located on the 1st floor of the Club house and opens generally around 10pm or 11pm depending on the night. It was recommended that we get a reservation from an online site (SDC) but there was no information about this. There not a lot of information on the Caliente website either. Here's how it works. Club Rouge is a set of on premises playrooms located inside the main club house. We didn't need reservations but they limit the amount of people that can be inside at the same time, and this is a very good thing. We attended without any reservation or advance action needed on Saturday night. There was a short line outside the club, similar to what you would see at a night club. There were velvet stanchions and you couldn't bring drinks into the club. They did provide free bottled water inside which was great. You can roughly see who's going to be entering the club by judging who's in line next to you. If there someone you want to see naked get next to them in line. Everyone in the line was friendly. One lady was a little bit on the drunk side of classy but it wasn't a problem. The entry room is lighted in low light. There's red carpet and art on the wall. Very nice ambience. The staff takes your names and you have to have identification or a driver's license to gain entry. You get a wrist band so they know you have been checked in. There is a smaller locker room with lockers so that you can secure your personal items. The locker room is a little tight for a Saturday night but it kind of makes it fun. You are provided with a towel and are required to take your clothes off to enter. The staff is wonderful. They are super personable, fun, professional, and respectful. I have been naked briefly around the pool at Caliente or when in the hot tub or water. I have been naked one two other times inside where there are other people present. The Mrs. had only briefly been naked in Public and there happened to have been no one else there. There was a wonderful nervous excitement from the entire crowd. Everyone was very nice. There were people of all shapes and sizes. "What are you getting me in to?" The Mrs. disrobed shook her head and just grinned. She was nervous but handled it like a champ. She admitted that she was nervous but displayed nothing but an amazing confidence. It was incredibly attractive! Once you enter the lobby and locker room the lights are kept comfortably low. It sets the mood well. The actual playrooms are through a doorway so there is no fluorescent light bleeding in from the clubhouse. I would say there was probably 15-25 people in the Club. It never felt crowded and they nailed down the number of people perfectly. Enough people coming in to people watch and not enough to feel too crowded. The first room has velvet bench seating along the edge. There is a minifridge that is stocked and restocked with bottled water through out the night. You help yourself. This is a nice touch I really appreciated. The rule is that is the curtain to a room is closed, don't go in. If the curtain is half closed, feel free to watch, and if the curtain is open feel free to enter. If I recall there was one or two rooms with no curtains, and if you were to use that room you knew people could come in. Most rooms had one or two beds. There was a dungeon with some leather straps and a six foot tall cross with straps on it. The room was empty while we were there. It was the only room with tiled floors and I think the room had been converted from the shower area of the spa into a sex dungeon. In the main sitting room there is a window to a room with a round bed. This is a room you would use if you want to be seen. It was initially empty but later a couple went in there and put on a show. They kept things very slow and spent quite a good bit of time in the room. The woman was straddling the man and was almost imperceptibly moving. I don't remember the exact layout of the room but there was room for two couples. The window is very large and is just slightly frosted. There is a hallway with several rooms with beds. Perhaps four rooms. At the end of the hallway there is a larger room with eight mattresses. This room had two televisions with pornographic programming on. There were several couples in the room that were naked. Not wanting to be the center of attention I took the Mrs. to the bed that was on the end and in the corner. The linen was clean and fresh. We dropped our towels and enjoyed each other in this new type of environment. There were three other couples in the room while we were there. There were between six to ten people in the room while we were there with couples coming and going. There were no single males in the playrooms. I don't know if they are ever allowed in but I did appreciate the fact that it was only couples. The age range was all over from a few late 20s, some people in their 30's with most people being in their 40s and 50s. The couple with the female that was a little too intoxicated were probably in their late 50s. It was funny because you would be in the moment....and then they would loudly say something that took you right out of the moment. Nothing bad, just mildly annoying. For example, we would be in the moment then a loud comment would come out that was so out of place that it would cause us to stop and laugh. So, not even a bad thing. But it got to the point that it was apparently mildly bothering everyone because a male voice piped up at one point and said "shut up!" with the frustration of a man with a naked woman in front of him and an annoying guy next to him! It was totally funny and the timing was priceless. That great man caused the entire room to crack up. Props to you sir for getting all the girls to laugh and take all the annoyance and tension out of the air. The couple that was being loud certainly was not offended, and was finishing up. I don't think any of the men came to completion but I can't say for sure. For me, I was brought to the edge five or six times. I didn't know if it was appropriate to finish or not. I've never been in this sort of situation, and it actually felt better to not climax and get to keep going to enjoy everything. There were several couples that came to the doorway and watched, and some that came in and used the beds. Since we were on the end no one came to our area (it was two mattresses next to each other). I can't say how long we were inside the playrooms. It was easy to quickly get comfortable. Everyone was either in a towel or naked. There were no single males so the atmosphere was great. There were other couples that were vocal and it was pretty hot without being obnoxious. There were plenty of people being intimate and I didn't feel like there was a lack of participation. There was a natural lull and since I didn't know how long we had been inside I thought they were closing. Several employees took the opportunity to come in and change the sheets. I think controlling the number of people entering allowed them to change the sheets between couples. I thought they were closing the place down and took that as a sign to finish up. It turns out it was just a turnover of linen, and more people came into the room after the employees had applied the fresh linen. Once we were finished we took a few minutes to look in some of the rooms and watch a couple that had the curtain open. I sat in the main waiting room for a few minutes while the Mrs. used the restroom. The conversation and jokes in the viewing room were great. Sitting there for a few minutes without the Mrs. actually wasn't awkward although it felt more comfortable when the Mrs. was with me. We went back to the locker room and changed into our clothes. There was a great vibe from everyone the entire time. Going in nervous energy and and euphoric vibe changing back into clothes. You can tell everyone had a good time. I was VERY impressed with the cleanliness of the entire place. The staff was outstanding and personable. They are always top notch at Caliente. The other patrons were great. This was our first time in an on premises location and the other patrons were great. This was entirely new for both of us. Never felt uncomfortable. There is no charge or fee to enter the playrooms. There were no phones or property allowed inside. A staff member verified your locker number by wristband. I have nothing but good things to say about Club Rouge at Caliente. I found information a little hard to find online. So I wanted to write this review to let people know about it. Feel free to post any questions or comments and I will do my best to respond.

A couple years ago, my wife of 13 years went on a cruise with a bunch of ladies. She is in her early 30’s and is beautiful. She is about 5’4, 135 pounds, dirty blonde hair, great breasts (C cup), plump ass, and her legs look amazing (especially when she’s in heels). She is a great woman and an awesome mom to our kids and I would never worry about her cheating. But I do know she has a kinky, sexy side to her, especially when music and alcohol is involved. Just watching her dance turns me on (and probably every other guy around). Like I said, a few years ago, she went on a cruise with a bunch of other ladies her age (during spring break) and I found out that there was a group of younger guys who a took a “liking” to my wife’s group of women. I can see why, as my wife bought some super sexy rompers and bikinis that flatter her breast’s and ass very well. Anyway, when she got back I noticed one of the guys had friended her on Instagram. I also was told she was dancing pretty provocative at the club on the cruise and know that these guys were around, as I saw my wife in the background of some of these pics. I know she was wearing some very risqué clothing and was in a sexy bikini quite a bit. I instantly got excited thinking of the possibility of my wife Grinding on these guys while they were on the dance floor. I found myself hoping that she might have hooked up with some of these guys, not that she was intentionally trying to cheat on me, but I maybe she had a few too much to drink, they were grinding on the dance floor, the guy was rubbing up against my wife and kissing on her neck and secretly I hoped that maybe they went back to the room and had a random night of crazy sex. I find myself thinking of this often and fantasizing about it during our sex. My question is, is it unreasonable to think that this could have happened? And two, how do I bring it up that it turns me on at the thought that it might have happened?

First: body image problem will quickly correct itself once you see that there is every kind of body on display...yours will be 'better' than some no matter what it currently is. Second: While some nudists are swingers and some swingers are nudists, not all nudists are swingers. Don't expect every person you meet is a swinger or you will be disappointed. Third: It is amazing how quickly you will feel 'overdressed' after you get there. The bottoms will be coming off if only to not feel so 'out of place' for having clothes on. Finally: Go with the expectation on just having a great time and meeting a bunch of new people. While you may find more there (especially as a bisexual female...aka a unicorn), don't put the pressure on yourself to expect or try to force anything more to happen. If it does, great...if it doesn't, also great. Trying to make something happen without it just 'happening' will take all of the fun out of your trip. Just have fun being nude in public and meeting a bunch of new friends. Be sure to let us know how things go for you and we wish you a great adventure!

Concur. We have a better time when we let things come to us.

I would say to not get your hopes/expectations up too high. Just plan on having a nice time in the sun, naked, with other people. Anything beyond that is a bonus! Which place are you going to? We went to Caliente a few years ago and had a lovely time, but with no extracurriculars. There was not a lot of open sexuality around the pool, except at the foam party Sunday afternoon!

I’m with you on this. Love the sloppy look. Though I understand it’s all about trust with your spouse and setting boundaries. Sloppy seconds may be good for me but not everyone.

From medical news today --- when used perfectly every time, the World Health Organization (WHO) Trusted Sourceestimate that 4% of people using the pull-out method will become pregnant. This is similar to condoms, which have a 2% chance of pregnancy when used perfectly Pull out is actually pretty effective. I stand by what I said.. .there plan of bareback with pullout - while not something I would do - is not nuts when it comes to pregnancy prevention.

We stay current with our STD panel, provide paperwork upon meeting and expect the same from those we play with. Once all the boxes are checked guys have our full blessing to cum inside my wife.

If I allow a guy to penetrate me without a condom I am assuming he may cum inside me, the fluids exchange: precum, cum is unavoidable, it will be silly to thing otherwise. PS: we only play without condoms with our most closest friends, other than that condoms is a must.

It really comes down to what you want. For my wife and I, exclusivity means being able to play without condoms. With new people, we play with condoms. My wife has had a couple of long term boyfriends with whom she was exclusive (besides me of course) for a while. That allowed for bareback, which she far, far prefers to condoms. Both were good arrangements, with many play sessions over a few years. We were happy to give up the variety in exchange for a sex partner for her with whom she could play bareback. This was really mainly because both sex partners were really good for her. Neither of us wanted to have her break it off with a guy she really enjoyed having sex with because of a desire for variety or concerns over becoming too emotionally tied together. We're not poly, but also not averse to emotions developing. You need to consider the emotional impact of playing exclusively. The more you play with someone, the more likely it is you will develop emotions for them. Are the two of you ready for that? If you haven't discussed it, you need to. My wife developed emotions for both of her long term play partners. We talked about that beforehand, and it was ok with us so long as we kept our communication completely open and our relationship was stable and still primary. So, are the two of you ok with not having new partners for the foreseeable future and are you ok with the idea of emotions developing? If so, then go for it. There are rewards in having an exclusive partner.

The only person we will be exclusive with is each other. Not to say we won’t play with the same people more then once and have before, but we would not make that commitment to anyone else. We are not poly.

We went through the whole pandemic in a closed mfm situation and it was great. Our 2nd covid shots are this week, so while we will def stick with our friend we will also start to open our circle a little.

Yeah if you’ve found another bi male(based on your other posts) that you like, I imagine this is in the context of losing condoms and having a closed system? We had that going with one guy, but it was for less than a year before he moved away.

The temperature check is not going to find asymptomatic cases. I get temperature checked at doctors’ offices and at physical therapy, but it struck me that method is flawed.

Yeah at my doctor there was a simple selection for sexual orientation and partner(s) to indicate whether you were exclusively monogamous. A result of which was a change in vaccine recommendations(hepatitis/hpv) and an ask at checkups if I need sti screening. Took all the awkwardness out of it.

Ewww. I thought the post was about swinging with my doctor.

Perhaps I'm naive here, but can't you simply tell your doctor, "I have multiple sex partners," and leave out the how, when and how many?

I (male) told my doc (female) the whole story in the context of a discussion of an ED issue that had begun to surface. Other than the expected cautions on her part, which this group gives to each other on a fairly regular basis about STI's, there were no negative responses. There were some good questions on her part about the whys and how's. How it affected our marriage etc. The conversation lasted over twenty minutes. She ordered a testosterone test. She offered in house STI screening which she said my insurance would cover, offered the strategy that if my wife and I each spaced our physicals 6 months apart that we could effectively have two tests a year. I also walked out with a recommend to a urologist just to make sure there were no other players than age in the ED matter and a script for sildenafil. My advice is if your doc is not understanding, then find another doctor.

Back on topic, December 2019.

My thinking is that if a guy puts his penis in me or on me, he is likely to orgasm and ejaculate into or on me. To think otherwise is foolish as it goes against male instinct. In fact, I would be disappointed if a guy was in me and didn't cum; I would feel I didn't do a good job and miss having those little swimmers living inside me as guests for a few days. The only time that happens is when it's the guy's second or third round and he just can't get himself to orgasm.

My wife and I both like the visual of a sloppy vagina, and having messy reclaiming aex.