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After thinking about this some, it's looking like the rules, at least for you, haven't changed at all. The most secure prison is the one we make for ourselves. Been here, done that.

She will come up to me, start making out and reach down and grab my crotch or if I am standing she will come up arch her back and start rubbing her sexy ass on my crotch, because she knows it will get me going quickly. It is never really subtle around our place.

That's what my husband said. Oh well, we'll figure this out.?

Yeah, if you wife swap you're technically a cuckold. But the term's been given some new meaning/fetishization tying it in with humiliating the husband. Also strange to see single men wanting to join a couple and be a cuckold...serious case of: What was wild was seeing it come out as a mainstream insult those in a certain political party were calling each other. Which I'm sure no one would be surprised to find out they were into that themselves anyway as is often the case. ?

We are newbies and never heard the word cuckold before reading it here. We never thought of sex as humiliating, watching Or being watched is for pleasure not humiliation. Our first experience was a learning session, we learned how to enjoy sex with others, letting us to remove our built in inhibitions and enjoy.

Whatever the psychology of it is, my wife enjoys the idea that she is in a relationship with a man who has another woman for sex as well. When she was single, it was married men with a wife. Now there are married men with wives who know and approve, and it is me, her own husband. Not only is it me with more than one other woman, she can watch the goings-on and even participate.

Start by making sure your relationship is rock solid (see my hundreds of other posts about love/trust/communication). Then set your rules and boundaries, keeping in mind that they can always be (and usually are) changed, but only with you both agreeing and only outside of a sexual situation. Are you both looking for a threesome with another man or woman, a foursome, same room sex, soft swap, full swap, with all of you in the same room or separate rooms? Decide if you are looking for a couple to be FWB or if you are just looking for a 'one and done'. FWB are usually easier to find on swinger sites, 1AD (one and done) are usually easier to find at swinger clubs. Depending on what you are looking for you have two choices from here: swinger clubs are pretty easy to find by searching the internet (but depending on where you live, they might not be real close to where you live). If they're aren't any close, plan a weekend and get a motel room for the night. Go to the club and let them know you are first time visitors and they will usually give you a tour of the place. Don't go with any expectations other than just having a great, sexy night out together...anything else that happens (or not) is a bonus. Trying to 'force' something when it just isn't there will quickly take the fun out of the evening. Look at it as a date night...only there will be naked people around and you can watch 'live porn'. If more happens...yahoo! If you are looking for FWB, then the next step is to set up a free profile on several of the swinger sites (see 'please visit our sponsors' at the top of the page). Once you find which one of the sites has the most local people for what you are looking for (and this is IMPORTANT), pay to JOIN that site (lots of couples don't pay any attention to non-paying members since a high number of them are just men looking for a thrill, fakes, flakes, or fantasies thinking that the wife will go along). It's only a few dollars and ups you credibility (you probably will pay more for a night out with your partner, don't be cheap). Finally, sit down together and start looking at other profiles. If you find one that you both like (do not settle here...you both need to be in agreement for all decisions when it comes to swinging) send them a brief 'hello' note. Be sure to include something that shows that you read their profile, this will make a difference to the other couple. If they are interested as well, then set up a meeting...usually drinks or dinner. You will find out more about them in 5 minutes than in 5 years of texts and/or emails. We recommend that the first meeting be just a meeting...no sex. This will remove any pressure and allow you both to decide if the other couple is a good match. If they are, set up the next meeting and hold on for a really fun time. If not, just keep looking. It will most likely take some time to find a match but just keep looking, your match is out there. Take your time and enjoy the trip as much as the destination...then report back as to how things are going. Most important is that this is something that the two of you are doing together and that you are both having a great time. Good luck and let us know if there is anything else we can help with.

Things like calling her slut ect or playing head games with me as the husband. Not into that. So we don't get it.

To be honest I never heard the expression before joining this group. I never thought of Mike being humiliated watching me with a man or men. He has watched many times and he says he enjoys watching me enjoying sex and additionally he is there for my safety. I have met men that try to humiliate me and in turn try to humiliate Mike thinking he is not able to please me which is the furthest from the truth, Mike is a terrific lover and partner. I have watched Michael with other women and I never felt humiliated or shamed, is a woman showing off her husband a cuckold too. I surely enjoy watching him bring a woman to a screaming orgasm.

The wife is having fun; what's humiliating in that?

This is what we see. We have done gang bangs. The men are respectful to both of us. I am there to run things. We don't get the humiliation etc but I guess it if it someone's kink it is.

That never happened for us. My wife's play partners have been very respectful of me and somewhat envious that I have such a sexually powerful wife. It's the same now that we're swap swingers, but it's not so much on our minds since the situations are equal all around.

Well, you lived the fantasy you wanted. Given your reaction to seeing how enthused she was, I would highly recommend not living it out again. She said "she is happy to try FFM, but has no desire to watch me fuck another woman". That seems like she's playing both sides of the issue. What would she do while you and the other woman are having sex? The only way I'd even consider another encounter is a MFMF couple swap. This way you'll get attention and she'll get attention. However, the language and tone of your post seems to hint that your relationship needs spark. Thus, I would take her out on a few dates (get a babysitter), start experimenting at home (e.g. toys, blindfolds, etc). If she was enthused about the new cock, she may get enthused about new experiences with you....i.e. get off the couch. Go to the backyard. Drive around the corner and jump in the backseat. Using another woman, man or couple to spark things up won't help the two of you alone.

Definitely have, a lot. And it's not easy being the lighting guy, camera man, sound engineer, production assistant, the director AND the talent. 3-some and 4-somes are easier as a player who is taking the bench for a shift can hold the camera. And it's fun later to see their perspective/ what interests them. Gotta a nice library built up now so I whack-it to my wife like 95-percent of the time. She's my favorite porn star. ??

Definitely! I suppose the best way we can describe ourselves is we are Porn Snobs--meaning, we like porn and are somewhat frequent consumers of it, but it has to be good porn! Lol... "Good" is a comparative, subjective term, of course, and ultimately is decided by one's tastes. For us, the definition of of "good" will vary, depending upon the genre. True amateur porn that is good does not necessarily mean the production quality is great. It's more about the people involved (are they having fun and really into each other?) and the overall scene. Also, generally speaking, we are more physically attracted to the "girl-next-door"/"guy-next-door" type, rather than the plasticized, steroid-infused, heavily tattooed looking , glammed-up porn actors and actresses that are currently in vogue (frankly, they are more likely to turn us off, rather than turn us on.) To us, seeing the average-looking couple engaged in some very naughty sex scenes is far more arousing than watching most commercial porn. That's not to say we don't like some professional porn. But, it usually involves a specific genre and/or kink we're into or like to fantasize about.

Yes, yes, YES! I'm glad to say we have decades of videos and photos we have taken over the years! Ann is naturally photogenic and an exhibitionist at heart. I'm not afraid of the camera, either. So, we're well matched ?