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Thank You everyone for all the great feedback! Glad I listened to my instincts and told him that we were good. It makes feel better knowing I was in the right and you guys confirmed that for me. Thank you again. Makes the wife feel better too knowing I made the right call after she got y'all's feedback.

Here's the thing... if you're ever in a swinging situation (or any situation really) and you find yourself thinking "I'm not OK with this"... stop. It doesn't matter if that's what other people would do. It doesn't even matter if it's what you, yourself, did on a previous occasion. What matters is, there, in that moment, something about the situation feels wrong to you and you should just politely but firmly and quickly remove yourself (and your loved one's) from that situation. If you want an reason - You have an entirely lifetime's worth of experience, and a full array of human survival instincts, subconsciously observing and analyzing everything around you for signs of danger. Some part of your brain is always looking to the proverbial lion sneaking toward you through the high grass. So when you hear those mental alarm bells, even if you don't know why, listen to them. Better an awkward departure than meeting that lion.

My favorite sight is watching Ann, my wife, having fun. That doesn't necessarily have to be sexual, by the way. Just seeing her laughing and enjoying herself, letting go of all of her stresses and worries, is tops for me. Obviously, when it is combined with hot sexual activities, it is even more titillating. And she enjoys being an exhibitionist. And I like to be her voyeur ?

When Daniela opens her mouth to show the load that was dropped (or occasionally she stole from another woman's pussy), pushing it around with her tongue, before making a big deal of swallowing. I'm not a big cummer, and she's a "cum in my pussy" type of woman, so when it happens, it's a treat.

Don't obsess on squirting, not every woman does, and if they do it may not be every time. Just like orgasming every woman is different. The most important man in your like has never made it an issue or loves you less because you don’t squirt, you have always enjoyed the sex you two have had. It’s not a contest. I realize you are first starting on your swinging journey, you will find men ejaculate in different quantities, especially as we age. Women’s bodies change too, lubrications change and squirting can change too. I am happy if a woman is enjoying, has an orgasm, not if she squirts. I suggest you Google squirting or female ejaculation, you will find many different statistics and even ways to find your own way.

Laughing and talking. We are not fans of being with many couples at a party, when we are with a few couples the best Sight is everyone enjoying and getting along. It is the time between the sex when we are relaxing and just talking makes me smile because I am thinking our party is a success.

Yes, 100% A friend couple decided to start a family and step out 2 years ago from swinging, we haven't had sex since then with them but we still see them regularly and enjoy vanilla occasions like Birthdays and BBQs.

... and it's getting soooo HARD. (Sorry... I tried to resist that... kinda... )

As others said earlier, the conversation would have ended very early. The dude seems very overbearing and cares not a whit about anyone but himself.

We played with a couple to a period of time and my ex decided that she no longer wanted to continue in the lifestyle. We talked to them and still remained friends.

If you can’t agree on what all wanted you just pass. Saying what the other husband wants, him telling you to go with the flow, should lead to just one thing, “Bye”. I always talk in person to the wife alone not on the phone or any other way to determine if she is doing this without pressure. Most husbands want to watch a wife have a first bi experience, mine did, and though that could be the reason to start swinging, I always make sure the wife wants it as well. I don’t understand where the conversation about anal and squirting originated, man talk I am guessing, women don’t normally start a swing relationship talking about those things.

My favorite sight? Always has been and always will be my wife at play with others!

My wife, naked and either the center of attention or simply walking across the room (ideally with semen on her body in interesting places). I always really enjoyed watching her walk naked across our old club to the showers (which required crossing the "social area" from the "play area") after enjoying the attentions of several men... "Walk of shame?" she said once, "Hell no, I'm proud!"

We would have kicked him to the curb after the third or forth sentence of your post. We don't have many rules, but one of them is no cross talk (man to man = okay, woman to woman = okay, man to woman = absolutely not). In order to find out that everyone is interested, we meet for drinks or dinner with no play scheduled. You will learn more in five minutes in person than an eternity of email, texting or calls. Bottom line is that this guy is a jerk and just bullying his way to get what he wants (and so far, it has worked). There's always another couple out there and they will be a much better match. Tell them thanks but no thanks and start looking for a better match.

I agree with what you're saying here, and have questions about the merits of vaccinating young people. I also agree that this isn't something that can be tweaked away. However, the reason for that, to my understanding, is that both myocarditis and blood clotting/stroke are also reported symptoms in young people from COVID-19 infection itself. The most likely explanation for myocarditis - and the widely-accepted explanation for the clotting - are violent immune responses. The data is still weak, but significant, and many cases of myocarditis in infected young people may have gone undetected. (How many young people get a troponin level taken outside of medical research? Even older adults have a hard time getting cardiac injury noticed and diagnosed correctly.) This is most likely just a subset of what would happen if this same population got COVID. So what's the answer here? The virus is not going to go away, and will be a background infection circulating seasonally forever. If it's an "all or none" situation, we're either accepting that some will have harmful immune responses while also avoiding a small number of respiratory deaths, or we're accepting the small number of respiratory deaths and rolling the dice on how many young people will eventually become infected and experience the harmful immune responses anyway. Yet it's not an all-or-none situation. It seems to me that the ethical choice here to let families make their own decisions about this. I do agree with you that it's troubling to see universities require it, etc., but businesses and organizations do have property rights, and students have a right to choose their university. I do take issue with this passage: This is, essentially, the definition of inoculation since the days of smallpox variolation. Some vaccines. like the yellow fever vaccine, can cause complications similar to yellow fever infection, and become more dangerous as you age. Essentially, if you don't get the yellow fever vaccine and acquire immunity at an age where you' might be best-equipped to survive yellow fever, you should never get it and are advised to simply avoid parts of the world where yellow fever is endemic. COVID ain't yellow fever, but the fact pattern is similar.

The wife and I have done DPV with a toy, 8 inch on a fucking machine and I slid in with my six. I'm thick and so is the toy but she stretched out without issue. I would love to try DP A/V with another male but alas, she won't do it. Anal is not her thing. I'm not interested in DPV with a guy.

There’s so much wrong here it makes my head spin. Life’s too short.; this interaction is wasting your time and energy. Move on.

Seems to me like there is a truckload of Red flags. It also appears that you are not both on the same page.

My dear wife squirts/gushes every time we have sex. I'm always wanting her to drown me with her pussy. What a way to die! We use a Liberator fascinator throe, a waterproof blanket to protect the sheets and upholstery. It has different flavors, my favorite is when she tastes like a dry martini!

I have several single women and a couple or two that I no longer play with but would consider them good friends of mine.

Yes, twice. Once initially, and again after like a month, during which time we only had sex with our own spouses. (It may not make perfect sense, but that's what we agreed on.) You're right about HSV, but no one has outward symptoms. Sometimes, yeah, theoretically we'd like to play with others, but it's not worth leaving the group. And practically speaking everyone gets enough sex and enough variety that it's not much of a temptation. Our current activities leave me spent, and my wife doesn't want to go back to using condoms.

I think it is a sight, not a site. Too many websites!

We both love to see people wearing welcoming smiles! (and occasionally, little else).

Yes, I have been involved in a couple of dp situations. Always a good time when it works out. The times it didn't work out was usually because one guy was uncomfortable being that close to another guy. The men definitely have to be comfortable with their sexuality.

Mrs Grey is a fan of dvp. Our very first experience was an mfm that ended in a dvp. So when the opportunity arises she’s taking it. Haven’t done dp. Yet

I have never tried DPV but I would love that, I think)

I opened this post to see if CFNM is a railroad. Swingers on a train.

Thinking back that was round 2, not that my first went that long. We both took her with me first then there was some more smoking and drinking. It was only the second time I ass fucked a girl and for sure the first time either me or my friend doubled teamed. Getting this done was not as easy as some think and it took three stoned people time. I almost popped just trying to get in. If my memory is clear he took a shot at her ass after and we finished with her blowing me so it was three times. I have to call my buddy later to ask if he remembers. I heard she got married and divorced since then.

If you were young, why didn’t you go for round 2? Sounds like you were overwhelmed, which is understandable.

This an old thing, nothing to do with swinging I was in HS when a teammate I was good friends with asked if I wanted to fuck this certain girl who was home from college. She asked him to ask me. I thought he was full of shit and he said really. She had fucked plenty and it was just her thing. How could I turn that down so we made plans to go to her house after her parents went to work. I knew who she was only through other guys. She said she knew me and heard stories. I can’t imagine who she heard from and what she heard. I wasn’t comfortable her and being nude with my friend. I remember being afraid of some disease also. She controlled both of us and we just went along. She knew what she wanted and I had no idea how we were going to work it out. Somehow we managed and I busted a nut in a minute. Most likely she wanted more than that.

That's what we've found as well.

I meant holding on tight to each other, like the bottom guy holding or bracing me at the waist while the top guy has to hold tight on me or the bottom guy's back for support. We all ended up sweaty but it worked better than doing it standing up prior to that, due to the height differences.

Another variant: with another couple, I went into his wife's pussy missionary and he into my ass doggy. Some weeks later, we switched, he in my wife's cunt and I buggered him. It was the women's idea. It was ok both ways, but we never did it again. The only gay stuff I've done has been at the girls urging.

Reverse cowgirl seems a little easier but cowgirl works for us as well.

We prefer cow girl. Tried reveresed one time, but the guy in the ass just keep sliding out, so we soon went back to "regular" position. We once tested me sponing my wife in the ass, she had one leg up in the air, and the other guy fucked the pussy from on top/side some way.. . That was just tricky and no point of doing it that way. So for us it's the women on top of one guy with his cock in her pussy, the other guy in her ass from behind, that works best for everybody.

This is also how I do it. I won't let the bottom guy move or do any thrusting movement and just let the one in front to do the f*cking. All 3 of us ended cumming all at the same time.

Kim liked doing a reverse cowgirl with one of us in her ass, she would then lay back on the bottom guy, then the top guy would start fucking her pussy. it was a real odd position, butt she enjoyed it.

We’ve done both DVP and DP, with me and another guy as well as she doing a DP with 2 other guys. It’s usually on the wish list with any play time but circumstance as always play a huge role. As the OP said - keeping everyone between soft and cumming can be a real challenge, as well as the position gymnastics.

I have done alot of DP, both with my wife and the other woman when we meet other couples. Usually we do regular DP, but we have also tried DVP when we had a threesome with a Male friend. I prefer vaginal/anal with me in the ass, my absolute favorite thing to do when we swing, but my wife really enjoyed DVP also, so we will do that again. We are both really into anal sex, and a couple of weeks ago we tried DAP with a dildo, and that actually worked, so we are gonna try that with 2 real cocks some day.

We tried that 2 weekends ago and it didn’t go that good I kept piping out of my wife’s vagina as he was trying to push in her ass. But there where other positions that we didn’t try so next time we will try the other.

Good point. We can’t have that. It should be about her pleasure and enjoyment. Looks like the cowgirl position would be best.

I think the visual would be amazing until my legs gave out and I come down hard on two cocks buried deep and I hurt my poor vagina and make her sad forever ???

After seeing my friend squirt and posting here asking about it I researched who and if then what. There is a skenes gland that could be like a prostate, some of us have it not everyone. I also read it’s mostly pee mixed with a secretion maybe. It’s my friend who squirted the most and damn I can ask her anything. She didn’t add anything to my research saying it just happens sometimes not always. I asked if it’s pee and she had no idea and said it doesn’t feel like she’s peeing. This may sound disgusting, I didn’t taste pee when she squirted. On Sunday I did a a sicko thing, I asked her to pee in a clear cup. Me and my husband tried to get her to squirt again and couldn’t so she used her own hand and got a small squirt into another cup. It looked different. I wanted my husband to see if they tasted the same and he wouldn’t. Nobody wanted to so I said I would. Yuk. Only a small taste, first urine almost vomited, then squirt. Squirt was thicker and different. It wasn’t like sucking a dick not that thick, for sure it want the same as pee. It was just interesting not a necessarily important thing.