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Seems like you obsess over penis size. You have been posting about this from your very first post. Men worry too much, believe me most women don’t care. Some men are just big dicks regardless of the size of their penises.

There is no shortage of willing guys out there that would fuck your wife! It doesn’t even matter what the wife looks like or what her personality is like. There will be a lineup of horny guys. It is actually kind of sad how many desperate dudes are out there looking for anything they can get. Saying that it is by no means easy finding a guy that she might actually be interested having sex with! Lots of completely clueless and ignorant men out there. We have actually found it easier to find unicorn women to play with which are out numbered by the men at least 100 to 1 over the years we have been at it. As for married or single there is only one choice for us whether it is a male or a female! Single. We believe in karma and avoid all bad karma situations as much as possible. We see someone cheating on a spouse as a bad karma situation.

Just remember--we're all looking forward to the "after-action report" on how it all turns out...✔️...?

LOL, man, you folks have set the bar so high, we're now not sure if we can live up to your standards! LOL. Seriously though everyone, this is terrific information you have provided; we consider ourselves consummate hosts in a vanilla context and what you have shared will enable us to move forward with confidence in hosting a terrific first LS event!

We've done it once for my wife's birthday last year with the husband of a couple we're good friends with. We did both DP and DVP. I'd be up for doing it again.

We used to have several beaches (and lake beaches) that were difficult to get to and clothing optional (the difficult to get to part only meant that you have to really want to go there and vanilla people most likely wouldn't accidentally' stumble across naked people and damage their sensitive eyes and morals), but thanks to politics they have all been closed down. Thankfully, there's still a beach on Lake Tahoe that is just on the Nevada side of the border...

Added to what we said above: we are looking for people that we are compatible with and share common interests to become FWB. Towards this goal, we believe in a non-sexual meeting rather quickly (dinner or drinks) to see if 1: What they said in their profile is accurate 2: If there is any mutual attraction 3: If we have common interests 4: If they are both interested in this and not one of them just doing it for the other (taking one for the team). Once we meet IRL, we (as in both couples) can decide if we want to continue communicating. If either couple isn't interested then we (or they) say a polite thank you but we're not interested. We already have plenty of vanilla friends, what we are looking for is new friends that we can see naked and touch. If we wanted more online friends, we would be more active in Facebook.

...so when do we receive our invite?

For the missus the size of a guys penis is about the last thing she is going to care about when it comes to other men! If they are good looking, in good shape, respectful and charming then chances are pretty good she will have a great time with them. She will orgasm as much with a woman that does not have a penis as she will with a man so the size of a dick doesn’t make any difference. I am on the above average size of things and it has no bearing on how my lady gets off! It is how I use it and the many others things I do for her that have nothing to do with my penis. I already bottom out in her at times which isn’t a great feeling for either of us so bigger isn’t going to be better for her in that regard. Spend more time working on the things that you can do something about with yourself for improvement then the things you can’t do anything about like your penis size if you are really concerned about people being interested in you. Eat better and commit to a real exercise program to get yourself in great shape and your cock size will have little effect on if women are interested in you. Are some women size queens? Yes they are! Are most women size queens? No they are not.

We are with your wife on this one! If we are not interested in someone online then we are not going to waste their time or our time with small talk on line or through texts. A simple sorry we are not interested will do. Anything more can to some people come across as us being interested in them. We are not looking for new chat buddies when we are online! We are looking for compatible play partners. We have plenty of friends to chat with when we feel the want to. When we first started out with online searches we would spend more time chatting back and forth with people only to finally figure out nothing, but chatting is going to come out of it. Most of the time it would just be the husband who would be interested and want to talk, with his wife either not aware or not interested. We have better things to do with our time then waste it like that. All of our actual experiences from online meetings happened with people like ourselves who had good pictures of both them on their profile and well written clear descriptions of what they are looking for. There was always quick face pic exchanges and plans for a no pressure meeting in person fairly quickly to see if we are all on the same page. That is the only way we do it now and why to us a person’s profile and what they do and do not put in it is going to be the difference between us meeting or not meeting.

Wish we had a beach like that Cuz it’s so miserable here. I am so white do you use lotion all over. Cockburn has to hurt

Managing expectations--yours and others'--is a social skill necessary in and out of the LS--but perhaps more especially in the LS. The nice thing about the LS is that candor is not only appreciated but also in fact expected. That does not negate the need for social graces--in fact that candor raises the bar. As AndrewandAnn--and others--have remarked, rejection is by far the most common response and if you are going to be in the LS, it's important both to accept rejection gracefully and give rejection gracefully. Learning to read "no thank you", learning to say "no thank you", all the while ensuring that those expressions are unambiguous yet feel non-confrontational---all of that is hard. It is always appropriate to be respectful and courteous. It is always appropriate to be friendly provided that those signals are not misinterpreted. We learned a great deal about how to read people, listen to people, and gauge intentions when we attended our first clothing-optional resort. Some were there simply to enjoy social nudity, some were there because LS people were also welcomed. All were gregarious and all were enjoying their clothes-free status. We made friends with with groups, and at the same time needed to learn different sensitivities.

We hope it doesn’t storm today, we are heading back today with a little larger group. Our umbrella is a rainbow with each panel a different color, one of our friends has a solid blue umbrella. If you see those two umbrellas nearby stop and say hello. No sex on the beach, no drinking on the beach, no litter on the beach, no taking pictures on the beach. I am pretty sure after the beach there will be drinking, maybe more. I am not a party person sexually, rather we like very small groups, posted this for others who are looking for new experiences. Bring suntan lotion!!

We've found that being friendly to all has lead to situations where people we have no interest in having sex with keep angling to convince us otherwise. We just continue to be friendly to all and non committal to avoid obvious hurt feelings, but every once in a while we have to be a little more firm. If you're not clued in enough to pick up on social cues we're really not interested.

Gunnisons is a Federal Park beach with Federal Park rangers and they will prosecute it federal courts if caught. You can’t even drink a beer on this beach, a fine payable in Federal court. I haven’t done a poll of people on the beach, my guess Most are not swingers, most are not voyeurs, most are not exhibitionists. Some might be, not most. You say you have been nudists since 1969 but T has posted she has been since 1972 in another post. Memories “dose” vary.

Yes, I have been involved in a couple of dp situations. Always a good time when it works out. The times it didn't work out was usually because one guy was uncomfortable being that close to another guy. The men definitely have to be comfortable with their sexuality.

...and cheating isn't swinging, no matter how much you may think it is. Cheating and swinging are at the complete opposite ends of the spectrum.

You and your wife sound much more like cheaters and much less like swingers.

It’s been our experience that finding a guy isn’t difficult at all. Finding one who will be honest about himself and his situation - his entire situation - is damn near impossible. We want to live out some fantasies and have fun, but not at the expense of our peace of mind, comfort, or someone else’s relationship or feelings.

We prefer to play with committed swingers over cheating spouses. We hope to avoid the vengeful cheated on spouse discovering us and breaking up our fun. There are a lot of hot tempered people out there who are willing to do harsh things. We don’t want to do unethical things and contribute to the demise of marriages. There are plenty of consenting swingers.