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3 pointsYou know, in the many times my wife and I have done this, I have never felt either of us being judged as weak or a slut. In fact, as a rule, each guy will afterward walk up to me, shake my hand, thank me for sharing her with them and express significant praise of her fine qualities and/or comment upon my good fortune at having such a wonderful wife.
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2 pointsTom here; I have no idea why i love seeing her with other men, i absolutely utterly love it to no end. When i was a young teen i had a huge sex drive. When i was almost 17 i bought my first top-shelf adult magazine, i was fascinated by the pictures and then i started reading all the articles which seemed to involve a lot of stories based around girlfriends and wives cheating or the husband/bf watching, at first i thought how weird it all sounds but i soon got into those stories - at first i thought they were real stories until i realised later a lot of them were probably fictional. So since then some of my fantasies were about seeing a girlfriend fuck someone else. Then when i was 20 i had a new girlfriend, she asked me what fantasies do i have, i said something like i dont think you'll like it, to which she responded in a kind of excited and surprised way "OMG do you want to see me fuck someone else?" i thought - WOW how did she guess that?! i admitted yes. So she set up a profile on some dating website, got chatting with a guy, then the next day i drove her to him i posed as her brother or cousin i forgot which, dropped her off at some bus stop shelter near town, i had already told her where to go for privacy - a large field with overgrown grass and bushes. I saw them fucking, it was my first ever time with this experience, i was so jealous but so turned on at the same time i didnt know how to feel when she got back into my car. A year later, a new girlfriend, confided in her that i dont mind if she sleeps with other men. Nothing happened though. We split up a few months later. Then when i was 25? (im 32 now), i found a website with camgirls, it also featured escorts which i didnt know what that meant other than a bodyguard type person. I was chatting with this camgirl i said id love to meet her and take her out and things, she responded by saying i need an escort for that, i thought what's that? i found it was a prostitute, i just thought NO WAY! But when i was checking out the escorts profiles i soon ended up meeting them. Then i progressed into trying out brothels, sex parties, swinging, gang bangs, strip clubs, as well as being with escorts. I was totally amazed by some of those women. Then i travelled even further for a well known up market brothel, this is where i met Hayley. She was/is so fit and beautiful i couldnt believe it when i first laid eyes on her. I could see she absolutely loved "working" there having constant sex with so many different men from all walks of life, her sex drive was through the roof, she genuinely orgasmed and the proof was there when i witnessed and felt her squirt over me, i couldn't believe it. So i asked her out to be my paid escort for a night out on the town, it was then that we hit it off. She was turned on when i told her i'd love to see her fuck another guy, which she did soon after. Then i arranged gang bang parties for her, we went to swing clubs, sex parties, fetish clubs, we did filming, i was her driver when she was escorting for outcalls, i watched her lapdance at the strip club she used to work at. We moved in together, slowly but surely we went from escort/client, to fuck buddies, then a loving open relationship. She is a total babe to me, i would not trade her in for anything, ever. When i introduced my work colleague into our relationship we pretty much settled down from the sort of swinging lifestyle, as he has such a powerful sex drive... he really does out perform any man i've seen, and is one of the very best Hayley has ever been with. He's 14 years older than her, but he is quite fat and has some excess skin which is kind of off putting for her, among other things she doesn't like about him even though he is a nice friendly gent for the most part. So i'm pretty sure she wont ever end up running off with him. The only thing i wish was really different about him would be if he was black and had a big cock, that would make our relationship even kinkier, if that's the right word.
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2 pointsThe cuckhold description doesn't sound like you so why identify with it? Can't you be the alpha male sharing his female with his (lower placed) pack? Cuckhold also has a lot of elements of humiliation for the beta male in it and again it doesn't sound like you. My advice is fuck often and enjoy it. Forget about the labels. It's just sex.... nobody is going to tattoo it on your forehead!
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2 pointsI wanted to watch my wife as we fucked from a different perspective. As if I'm out of my body standing across the room. She refused to let me take videos. The more I dreamed about it I began to imagine other guys having sex with my wife. I'm not into the cuckold fantasy either but I'll admit that I dreamed about other guys seducing my wife in front of me and her submitting to them. It took me a long time to talk her into trying it and when she did she loved it and I loved watching it! I'm hooked for life! The first time we were all in the bed together. Then I started getting off the bed and sitting in a chair in the corner of the room and watching from there.
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2 pointsLet's see... Starting slow, with a MMF instead of a full on gang bang is probably a good idea. As you say, see how both of you react to the reality as opposed to the fantasy. It is possible that this only works as fantasy. As for your "big question" ... why. I can't tell you what's going on in your head, but I can tell you what goes on in mine. I had exactly the same fantasy. I wanted to see my wife fucked like crazy by a bunch of guys. I wanted to watch and then take her like crazy. We've made that fantasy a reality... lots and lots of times... and it was amazing! We started with an MMF and worked our way up to a gang bang. I've sat back and watched up to a dozen guys taking my wife, singly or in pairs, before fucking her myself... either alone of with another guy. We love it. Why? My wife loves it because she enjoys feeling multiple men touching her, teasing her and fucking her. I love it because I love watching. My wife is so beautiful and sexy I like seeing her body move, seeing the look on her face and hearing the sounds she makes while she is having sex. I feel that I can't fully appreciate all that if I am caught up in my own reactions and sensations, so I love watching her with other guys. Also, I have a dominant side (which complements her submissive side) and I get a rush from saying "here, this is my wife but I'm letting you guys share her... until I say stop and take her for myself." It is actually the opposite of cuckold, which is a submissive fantasy. For me, yeah, there is a strong element of "all these guys want my wife... and now there's having her... but she remains my wife. All these guys can have her, once, but she comes home with me." It's a turn on for us both. Explore your fantasy. I hope you have as much fun with it as we do... and I'll be happy to share anything from our experiences that may help you. Ask whatever you like, here or message me directly.
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1 pointI see my life of non-monogamy being in five stages: Me having two men as sex partners who know about each other, love me and accept the situation. Marrying one while continuing with the other. Allowing/encouraging/setting up my husband with other women. Opening up to my Lesbian side. Forming our poly family with my two men by adding two women. Having children among us. We've done some other limited swinging and everything on the list except large group sex and strangers. It is everything we've wanted to do.
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1 pointCongrats David! You guys are living large. Hope you move on to the real thing soon!
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1 pointMen cannot be tested for HPV. Condoms are of dubious value against it. If any of the parties are under 45, they can be vaccinated. Unfortunately, we know several women who have had medical procedures due to HPV. Also, women in the lifestyle should have regular Pap smears. I am not a doctor, but talk to your doctor about it. They assume that married women are monogamous. Sorry to be Debbie Downer, but swingers don’t want to talk about it and it is very prevalent.
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1 pointNo male picture is a red flag. Same as when one’s weight is listed as zero. We have also met women who listed at 149lbs. who were closer to 249. 149 seems to be a magic number. Can’t talk myself, need to lose my covid 19.
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1 pointWe have a “move” to get the party started. When we invite a couple to our house to play, we start with drinks and snacks. After our chatting has gone on for awhile and we are slightly lubricated (alcohol-wise), we ask if they want to see our map. My sister gave us a magnetic Rand McNally wall map. We put magnets on the places thar we’ve been and we’ve to quite a few places, so we discuss it. Coincidentally, our bedroom is two steps away and it’s a short trip to say would you like to step over here and then one thing leads to another and we’re off to the races.
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1 pointReconnection sex is our drug. Yes, we have great sex with our friends but the sex between us that follows is fucking amazing.
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1 pointThe chastity device is sort of a must for those into the cuckold scene. Its benefits are largely psychological, although one physical 'benefit' is that it keeps hubby in a pent-up state while wifey enjoys her date. This prevents the super-aroused hubby from jerking off to the point of exhaustion, thus ensuring he is ready, willing and able to reclaim his naughty wife at the end of the night.
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1 pointOK, well I'm not going to be any help at all. To summarize - your husband cheated on you and lied to his friends. Now he is asking you - the person he betrayed - to help him continue to lie to the people he betrayed you with because he also betrayed them. The foundation of swinging is open, honest communication. Your husband knows this and knows he is wrong, otherwise he would not be asking you to lie for him. Your husband should be outed to his group and should be blacklisted by them. How you handle his lying and cheating in your marriage is entirely up to you but my advice is very much to not continue to enable his lying and cheating.
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1 pointShe's out there, you just need to seek her out. You could look on swingers' sites, but my recommendation is just to date in real life and when after the first couple of dates the conversation turns to sex (don't push it too early but don't wait too long), let her know that you will be monogamous but you do not demand monogamy from a partner - even a future wife - and it would make you happy for her to play around on her terms. Many or maybe most won't consider the idea, but definitely a few will and will love you and be happy for it.
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1 pointWe formed our group among married swinging couples who we met through the traditional ways and became friends. We shared the common desire to be uninhibited in the way we engage in activities, including playing alone and playing bareback. We got together and all pledged not to play outside of the group even with condoms, pretty much upon penalty of death. If you want to play outside the group, you can leave, no questions asked, no recriminations. No one has left thus far. We were all tested twice, and have free from the usual worries of swinging. You might think that the temptation is there, but with the quantity and variety of sex available to each one of us, the temptation is less than for a monogamous vanilla couple.
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1 pointKathy squirts almost every time she orgasms, which is to say almost every time she has sex. (She’s a super easy cummer.) She always puts a doubled-over beach towel under her ass so as not to soak the linens and mattress. She experienced orgasms from the time she began masturbating as a pre-teen and in her late teens had an orgasm the first time she had intercourse. (Anecdotally that seems fairly rare.) But she didn’t begin squirting until she was post-menopausal. At the same time, she reported her orgasms were stronger and seemed to last longer than ever before. It would be easy to conclude she was urinating. That the combination of the aging of the muscles that control the bladder and the stronger orgasms lead to a partial voiding. But, even if she pees, gets immediately into bed and masturbates herself to orgasm — which generally takes less than two minutes (yeah, I sheepishly confess that I’ve timed her. ?☺️) she still soaks the towel with something that doesn’t smell like urine. So, I don’t know, I’m still agnostic on whether squirting is a form of urinating or if there is some fluid that is mysteriously released by the contractions that are part of orgasm. For my own part I choose to honor the soaked towel as a manifestation of a wonderfully intense and fulfilling experience on Kathy’s part.
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1 pointA few men have successfully elicited this response from my wife. She was surprised that she could do it. She said it was a pleasant feeling of release, but less powerful than an orgasm. There is a finger movement/placement technique to elicit it, but it has eluded me without formal training. You Tube?
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1 pointOur experience is consistent with all the above - swinging sex supercharges our sex life at home. Not that there was anything wrong with it to start with that it needed any supercharging, but it's undeniable that it is like pouring gas on the fire. Does that eventually become a detriment, a "have to have it" sort of thing? Nope, supercharged sex is great, but so is gently making love to the one you love. They aren't mutually exclusive, and it's just what you are in the mood for. When the sex matches the mood, then everyone will be happy and fulfilled
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1 pointThat's a ponderable question, Seananem! Thanks for posing it. I think our first experience (also with an inexperienced couple, Linda and Larry), taught us the difference between "sex for fun" and "lovemaking." Laura said that the moment she guided Larry's forbidden cock into her, was one of the most sexually exciting things she'd done. They had shared a lot of saliva. Not only was she turned on beyond measure, probably because it was the first time she'd guided another man in since our marriage, but his wife was probably doing the same for me in the living room. They had sex twice before they panted into the living room where they found me between Linda's thighs, her toes pointed to the ceiling, making guttural sounds deep in her throat, sucking my tongue. When we came back to earth, Laura and Larry knelt by the couch and lovingly kissed their mates, my cock still inside Linda. Larry and Linda went to their bedroom and Laura and I to the couch, where we experienced a deeper kind of lovemaking. Loving each other after fucking another couple became our main reason for "swapping." Swapping, however, never came close to the satisfaction we found with each other. Laura said her orgasms were always better when we were together. I'd have to agree.
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1 pointTruth. 1 on 1 sex is usually over once everyone has one orgasm. But MFM is like tag-teaming with the men able to cum multiple times - and thus the woman as well. I definitely have much faster recovery when I see my wife take her turn with the other man.
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1 pointInteresting experiment, and a plausible conclusion. One small detail. Your introductory paragraph reported the researchers had used “real vaginas”. I believe you may have misread or miswritten. .”.. a variety of dildos, artificial vaginas, and a homemade semen recipe...” That noted, it might have been a more fun experiment with real vaginas. ??
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1 pointMy wife and i have been swingers for 10 yrs plus. She is what u call a hotwife. A true slut. She fucks lots of men and i love it. Nothing turns me more than to watch her walk in the room with her short skirt on knowing she just fucked a guy and seeing his cum drip down her legs. I get so hard so fast i can't help but fuck her before it drips all out. I also love to eat another man's cum out of her as well. Point is.. There are a lot more men that like this then i think will admit to.
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1 pointTo echo 2quirky806, we haven't gone bareback with any couple yet but would like to. We just haven't established any connections where we would be relatively exclusive, to where we would go without condoms. I think the sloppy seconds thing is more the Mr's fantasy than mine. I'm not opposed at all, given the cycling condoms as the guys move around is annoying and bareback is just so much more fun. However, we are in the same boat as everyone else in terms of avoiding STIs is required. Once we establish a connection with another couple (s) where we play only within a small group (2-3 couples) we'll look into dropping the condom requirement.
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1 pointWhenever it is hubby, Red and me in an MFM, Red always goes first because he likes me "fresh" while hubby likes going second because he can enjoy the show with me and Red in his pre-orgasm excited state rather than watching after he's released. This comment made me realize, however that in going second, hubby always flips me from my position with Red to the opposite position, doggy or missionary. I need to ask him why. Probably has something to do with quantum mechanics, those two must be Fermions.
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1 pointLove sloppy seconds. The last time we played was a bareback MFM and we each came inside my wife twice. It was heavenly.
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1 pointIf there no one to take sloppy seconds, then guy #1 is going down on me until I am satisfied. My feeling is that there are times I swallow his cum, so he can go down on the mess he made.
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1 pointSo its my body and I decide who cums where outside of my husband. But if I fuck a guy and he comes and there is no getting him back to hard, if I'm not done, someone is getting sloppy seconds.
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1 pointMy late wife once said to me, "If I allow a man to put his cock in me, Darling, I expect him to come inside me. If I didn't want him to, I wouldn't be fucking him." Another time she said, "When I have cum inside me, I feel so sexy! When we swap and I have two men's cum inside, it's even sexier! Did you know that 60% of women have cum in their pussies at any given time?" "I didn't know that, Sweetheart, but I have heard that 60% of statistics are made up on the spot," I replied. "Sloppy seconds" weren't a treat for us, it was a normal part of swinging.
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1 pointI don't know your situation, but I agree. It's been my experience that there's a fine line for the Mrs. between "that sounds really fun, but I'm not sure if it's a good idea" and "fine, let's do it". If someone hadn't invited us, we'd be still debating whether or not we should try it.
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1 pointFor what it's worth, our first "soft" experience... We were just getting settled into a relationship dynamic, and as the more experienced partner, I was often egging her on to try new things. I've always gotten a kick out of some light dominance, I'd taken on a trainer role and it was great. So we're at this party and I start giving her a hard time about these two guys we'd been having a couple of drinks with, all in fun. It had been a big step to get her to wear something skimpy to begin with, she was obviously having fun on the dance floor, and didn't mind when I lifted up her skirt to show off her ass. When I suggested she should fool around with one of them, I was kidding and figured it was ridiculous - until I wasn't kidding anymore and she was protesting that she wasn't going to fuck anybody and her dress was unzipping. Fantastic testosterone rush to lead a woman into that position and very different dynamic from the cuckold/hotwife pattern. I think it was a sort of pattern where my bad influence gave her license to do things she enjoyed but felt like she wasn't supposed to be doing, so it worked well. Our second experience, more recently, was a little different. No power dynamic that I can think of: we just both wanted to screw around a bunch with mutual acquaintances, and now she's much more open-minded than she used to be. Some of the novelty about getting wild is off, it feels like reproducing some of the taboo would be difficult - some. I can think of a few ideas to challenge her.
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1 pointWhy thank you and, wow, I didn't realize that was from so long ago. We're still having fun.
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1 pointA lot of great information on here, it helps put things in perspective and I agree with OpenMindedPair's repost.
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1 pointI think it has to do with wanting to know how your wife would be in bed with another guy. Simple as that. You know what she is like... But if you werent around would she be a different woman. I have watched mine... And yes, she sometimes becomes a different person. Was interesting. We have fun with it.
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1 pointThank you for the honest open curious share. From what I understand, there's a couple different sexual power dynamics in this common fantasy/practice. 1 is the cuckold, beta, submissive, bi-curious maybe, humaliated man thing. 2nd is more an alpha male, probably hetero, wanting to make his wife submit to another man who also finds her irresistible. The dynamic is still wife sharing but the other side of the coin. If that makes sense. Its rather common from what it seems, either side of that coin. There's deep wired mating strategies in humans probably influencing this, even if pregnancy isn't part of the attraction?
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1 pointWhen it comes to meeting people in a relatively safe environment, I'm a fan of swingers clubs. They are a good social venue where you know everyone is there for the more or less the same reason. Depending on where you are in Indiana, I might be able to point you to a couple of places, or at least names of places.
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1 pointthis is just my 2nd post but didnt see the need to start a new thread since its already here. i want to see my wife with another guy but dont know how to go about it. i read about people findng people online, but how do you know that person is std free or not some craiglist killer or something. ive thought about some guy friends but feel that may be weird to bring up to them.
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1 pointthis concept (her with another guy), and her eventual acceptance of that, is what got us started in Hotwifing. when it's good, it sure is hot! watching & hearing (and joining in), is very hot!!!
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1 pointMy fantasy is to see my wife sucking a nice hard dick, then sticking it in my mouth and slowly jacking him off. Next he sticks that hard wet cock in her pussy and as he pumps her I am there licking her clit and his cock. Next I want her to pull him out and he stick that meat stick in my ass and I look at her as she is watching me get pounded. Finally I want her to jack him off into my mouth and load me up with hot sticky jizz!!! Thats my fantasy!
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1 pointNot to belabour the point but that is where I got the definition from originally. I had never heard of either Candaulism or compersion before and read both at wikipedia. I guess I regard involuntary exposures as force as well. I also note the reference to swinging as "forcing" the female to have sex. forcing a female partner to engage in sexual relations with a third person, such as during a swinging activity. Somebody with a more balanced state of mind needs to rewrite that one.
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1 pointThe way your husband feels is exactly how I feel about that, though my wife and I have not done anything yet, just talk. The visual, and as you describe teasing your man! That is what is so sexy about it! I fantasize about my wife fucking other people all the time, especially other men. The only way I think I would get jealous is if I thought I could possibly lose her to the other person, like they started becoming really good friends or something like that.
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1 pointI thank you for your respond, but I would like to have a woman respond to this. All of what I am hearing are coming from men. I want to know how a woman who has experienced this give me her personal feel about it. No offense!
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1 pointWhat is a women perspective in what ur all saying. as a woman I would like to know what she thinks.
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1 pointWow, that kind of surprises me that this fantasy is so common that the sex therapist says it is considered normal sexual fantasy behavior! I guess it's not the kind of thing most guys bring up to there best buds over beers! It stands to reason...it is not so much socially acceptable to say that is your fantasy as compared to saying you want to share your wife with another girl, or that you want to fuck 2 girls at the same time, which I have several friends, if not all my friends, say to me throughout my life!
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1 pointI agree, I think it is just plain ol swinging...
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1 pointYeah i know what you mean. To be fair, he is quite good looking in the face for a fat guy, aged 40 but looks early 30s. By big, i mean like 10" long, she said she's had bigger than that! The biggest i've seen was probably a 9-10". He has a 8", at first when i saw it i thought no way is that a 8" it looks not much bigger than mine...6", but one time he actually did measure it when we were together, he has to use his hand to push his base back/in to make his girth stick out more, otherwise it only looks like a 6".
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1 pointTwo comments... First, the most difficult thing I ever tried to explain to my wife was why I enjoy watching her with other men. Second, the word 'cuckold' is so often missued. This has nothing to do with being cuckold.
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1 pointgood to hear.. thanks. I / we have a few M's she's played with but I haven't attempted to get a few of them together at the same time. that's the next step
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1 pointwe started the same way (MFM) and have enjoyed that many times. She would love to be the subject of several guys but so far I haven't found: 1: a small group of guys that I think deserve her talents (as in 3-5 guys) 2: a small group of guys that are "up to it".. the whole homophobic thing 3: had the willingness to "open up" to some guys and be subject to her or I being "judged" as weak or a slut.. It'll happen withing 2013, but it's a matter, to me, of finding a few of her fave MFM playmates and see if they are onboard with being part of a bit larger group than MFM