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Doesn’t get more mainstream than https://thepointsguy.com/guide/nude-cruises/ Swinger Cruises are mentioned.

Liquid coconut oil for us as we aren't playing yet and we don't use rubbers with each other

We have been on a Bare-Necessities cruise, and two swinger cruises, Couples cruise, and Bliss. the nude cruise with Bare-Necessities was by far the best of the three. The other two were much more party oriented and high energy. We would love to do another Nude cruise. The cost difference is tremendous. Nude cruises cost about twice what swinger cruises cost. I think it is worth the difference. We have a lot of swinger friends who book vanilla cruises. They find other swingers online and meet at the bars on board. When you show up when everyone has switched partners each evening, other clandestine swingers will approach you and open a conversation.

Single professional female (travel for work) looking for a male swing partner (over 45). I am looking to explore the lifestyle.

Swinger zone central has a lot of good features for free members and seems like 3/4 of profiles are Indiana and Ohio.

Years ago, I was watching a behind the scenes documentary about the porn industry. One of the things brought up was lube. At the time, the lube of choice was Albolene. I search for it for years on toy sites and such to no avail. Finally found out it was a makeup remover/moisturizer. Got some and loved it, especially for anal. The industry has now migrated to coconut oil. It works quite well for intercourse and masterbation. Albolene still seems to be a better choice for anal. My opinion.

I don't know how the pandemic has changed things since we moved away but I understand Swinglifestyle.com used to have pretty coverage in that area. There also used to be several good swingers clubs up there. I don't know if they survived the pandemic or if going to them is a good idea (infection rates in Indiana are still pretty high last I looked, but as I said we're not in that area anymore so I don't know the specifics).

Both!

Our choices show our lack of sophistication, but saliva works fine for us for vaginal intercourse (I get wet pretty easily, but sometimes I need a little just at the entrance to get started). Mostly there is pussy licking going on before fucking anyway, so it's not a problem. For anal play, if it's just a finger in my/her bum, pussy juice will do, otherwise we use astrolube for dick-in-bum sex. My obsession is with products for cleaning up his dick afterwards.

I am a voyeur, but only when it is those in our family pleasing each other that I am watching. Even though our family has been together for over a decade, it still makes me jealous, which is something that I crave. It gives me a great desire after they have finished to get with both of them (suck him up again to do me, eat her out). Watching other people, porn or real life, is sort of interesting/exciting, but not something I seek out. As to being an exhibitionist, I don't mind letting other people see me naked or having sex (as long as they don't distract me when I am trying to orgasm) but it's not something that particularly turns me on.

Interesting observation. Lora, Clair and I are on different kinds of birth control, so there are no "fertile days" to compare now, but when we were trying to conceive I should have taken notes.

Thanks for the EXCELLENT feedback. This is also very useful, and helpful. Well my wife and I have been talking all week. We had somewhat a of a breakthrough actually. My wife had a good conversation with the other wife which gave my wife an idea of where the other wife is emotionally and practically with swinging. It opened my wife's eyes and really put her at ease about a few things. So much that she told me last night after having such a good conversation with the other wife she would actually be ok if I fucked her. However, I know that won't happen because like I said she's not attracted to the other husband enough to make it a full swap for everyone. So we are sticking to our rules. Best thing is. Our communication has reached a whole other level this week. It was always good, but this week even better. I also amended one of our rules, because I felt strongly about doing so. One of our rules. Is we only play together. Last night I amended it to. My wife can play alone with the other wife only. There have been a few trips, and girls nights where I know those two would have loved to play. So I opened that door. I realized, that really doesn't bother me and if it could increase her enjoyment, and show the trust I have why not? Very productive week. Thanks folks.

True, most swinger news is mocking or negative.

From a newspaper report interviewing her after the fact: 'I find that the people in the swingers' club are much more polite to each other than you are used to in normal bars or clubs, for example,' she said. 'In the swingers club you don't have to explain anything or excuse anything, a simple no is enough.' ... 'Yes, I enjoyed it,' she explained. 'Even though it wasn't the best sex of my life. But the men in this club are very polite and very considerate. I felt like a goddess. They make you feel very special. " These are important insights about respect for persons and for relationships encountered in the LS.

I'm going to do a follow up to a my follow up: Attended Caliente in March of 2021 Everything from my past posts still apply. There was a cold snap the weekend we went. It seems like they have put new flooring in all the hotel rooms which is awesome. The carpet was looking dated. The rooms do look a little dated still but the flooring really helps and you won't be in the room that much. The food is still outstanding. Masks were worn but most people were not wearing them. Staff was, but it was personal choice if you wanted to wear one. I didn't see a single instance of any problems with people wearing or not wearing a mask. A lot of people had masks that matched their clothing or looked sharp, I went with the LED scrolling mask with my SDC screen name on it. Sadly though I didn't wear it enough to have fun with it! We stayed Friday to Sunday. We arrived several hours late due to an minor emergency. We checked in, had dinner at the restaurant and went to our room. We changed, got dressed up and went to the Club house at about 11:30 pm. There were space heaters outside on the patios of the clubhouse. There were tables, chairs, a bar, and the DJ in the covered area on the first floor. The clubhouse was fairly empty. We laughed because we drove to Caliente, had dinner, dressed up and missed the party. Please note when I say Clubhouse I mean the main Clubhouse that has a restaurant, bar, lounge, sports bar and night club inside. The nightclub was closed due to covid but everything else was open. The gift shop was open and we browsed. The Mrs. picked up a sequined sparkle purse to match her dress. We had a really nice conversation with the gift shop employee. Nothing but praise for the staff. Saturday was much busier and there was a lot of people out and about. The pool was empty because it was cold but the heated conversation pool and hot tubs were full but not over crowded. People stayed in the covered area to keep out of the wind. Recently Caliente opened up Club Rouge. It is located on the 1st floor of the Club house and opens generally around 10pm or 11pm depending on the night. It was recommended that we get a reservation from an online site (SDC) but there was no information about this. There not a lot of information on the Caliente website either. Here's how it works. Club Rouge is a set of on premises playrooms located inside the main club house. We didn't need reservations but they limit the amount of people that can be inside at the same time, and this is a very good thing. We attended without any reservation or advance action needed on Saturday night. There was a short line outside the club, similar to what you would see at a night club. There were velvet stanchions and you couldn't bring drinks into the club. They did provide free bottled water inside which was great. You can roughly see who's going to be entering the club by judging who's in line next to you. If there someone you want to see naked get next to them in line. Everyone in the line was friendly. One lady was a little bit on the drunk side of classy but it wasn't a problem. The entry room is lighted in low light. There's red carpet and art on the wall. Very nice ambience. The staff takes your names and you have to have identification or a driver's license to gain entry. You get a wrist band so they know you have been checked in. There is a smaller locker room with lockers so that you can secure your personal items. The locker room is a little tight for a Saturday night but it kind of makes it fun. You are provided with a towel and are required to take your clothes off to enter. The staff is wonderful. They are super personable, fun, professional, and respectful. I have been naked briefly around the pool at Caliente or when in the hot tub or water. I have been naked one two other times inside where there are other people present. The Mrs. had only briefly been naked in Public and there happened to have been no one else there. There was a wonderful nervous excitement from the entire crowd. Everyone was very nice. There were people of all shapes and sizes. "What are you getting me in to?" The Mrs. disrobed shook her head and just grinned. She was nervous but handled it like a champ. She admitted that she was nervous but displayed nothing but an amazing confidence. It was incredibly attractive! Once you enter the lobby and locker room the lights are kept comfortably low. It sets the mood well. The actual playrooms are through a doorway so there is no fluorescent light bleeding in from the clubhouse. I would say there was probably 15-25 people in the Club. It never felt crowded and they nailed down the number of people perfectly. Enough people coming in to people watch and not enough to feel too crowded. The first room has velvet bench seating along the edge. There is a minifridge that is stocked and restocked with bottled water through out the night. You help yourself. This is a nice touch I really appreciated. The rule is that is the curtain to a room is closed, don't go in. If the curtain is half closed, feel free to watch, and if the curtain is open feel free to enter. If I recall there was one or two rooms with no curtains, and if you were to use that room you knew people could come in. Most rooms had one or two beds. There was a dungeon with some leather straps and a six foot tall cross with straps on it. The room was empty while we were there. It was the only room with tiled floors and I think the room had been converted from the shower area of the spa into a sex dungeon. In the main sitting room there is a window to a room with a round bed. This is a room you would use if you want to be seen. It was initially empty but later a couple went in there and put on a show. They kept things very slow and spent quite a good bit of time in the room. The woman was straddling the man and was almost imperceptibly moving. I don't remember the exact layout of the room but there was room for two couples. The window is very large and is just slightly frosted. There is a hallway with several rooms with beds. Perhaps four rooms. At the end of the hallway there is a larger room with eight mattresses. This room had two televisions with pornographic programming on. There were several couples in the room that were naked. Not wanting to be the center of attention I took the Mrs. to the bed that was on the end and in the corner. The linen was clean and fresh. We dropped our towels and enjoyed each other in this new type of environment. There were three other couples in the room while we were there. There were between six to ten people in the room while we were there with couples coming and going. There were no single males in the playrooms. I don't know if they are ever allowed in but I did appreciate the fact that it was only couples. The age range was all over from a few late 20s, some people in their 30's with most people being in their 40s and 50s. The couple with the female that was a little too intoxicated were probably in their late 50s. It was funny because you would be in the moment....and then they would loudly say something that took you right out of the moment. Nothing bad, just mildly annoying. For example, we would be in the moment then a loud comment would come out that was so out of place that it would cause us to stop and laugh. So, not even a bad thing. But it got to the point that it was apparently mildly bothering everyone because a male voice piped up at one point and said "shut up!" with the frustration of a man with a naked woman in front of him and an annoying guy next to him! It was totally funny and the timing was priceless. That great man caused the entire room to crack up. Props to you sir for getting all the girls to laugh and take all the annoyance and tension out of the air. The couple that was being loud certainly was not offended, and was finishing up. I don't think any of the men came to completion but I can't say for sure. For me, I was brought to the edge five or six times. I didn't know if it was appropriate to finish or not. I've never been in this sort of situation, and it actually felt better to not climax and get to keep going to enjoy everything. There were several couples that came to the doorway and watched, and some that came in and used the beds. Since we were on the end no one came to our area (it was two mattresses next to each other). I can't say how long we were inside the playrooms. It was easy to quickly get comfortable. Everyone was either in a towel or naked. There were no single males so the atmosphere was great. There were other couples that were vocal and it was pretty hot without being obnoxious. There were plenty of people being intimate and I didn't feel like there was a lack of participation. There was a natural lull and since I didn't know how long we had been inside I thought they were closing. Several employees took the opportunity to come in and change the sheets. I think controlling the number of people entering allowed them to change the sheets between couples. I thought they were closing the place down and took that as a sign to finish up. It turns out it was just a turnover of linen, and more people came into the room after the employees had applied the fresh linen. Once we were finished we took a few minutes to look in some of the rooms and watch a couple that had the curtain open. I sat in the main waiting room for a few minutes while the Mrs. used the restroom. The conversation and jokes in the viewing room were great. Sitting there for a few minutes without the Mrs. actually wasn't awkward although it felt more comfortable when the Mrs. was with me. We went back to the locker room and changed into our clothes. There was a great vibe from everyone the entire time. Going in nervous energy and and euphoric vibe changing back into clothes. You can tell everyone had a good time. I was VERY impressed with the cleanliness of the entire place. The staff was outstanding and personable. They are always top notch at Caliente. The other patrons were great. This was our first time in an on premises location and the other patrons were great. This was entirely new for both of us. Never felt uncomfortable. There is no charge or fee to enter the playrooms. There were no phones or property allowed inside. A staff member verified your locker number by wristband. I have nothing but good things to say about Club Rouge at Caliente. I found information a little hard to find online. So I wanted to write this review to let people know about it. Feel free to post any questions or comments and I will do my best to respond.

I think it comes down to sexual confidence. As others have said we don't have as many hang ups. So for instance in my early twenties I didn't swallow, or do butt stuff. But in my late 30s I swallow all the time, and I definitely do butt stuff.

Ladies: When playing with someone other than your SO, if you do not use a condom for intercourse, do you let the guy cum inside of you or make him pull out? We only have condomless sex with two couples, our very close friends, and I do not have any particular preference handling male orgasms, sometimes I wanted on me, some others times I wanted in my, all depends of the position and the intensity/rhythm. If he is on top of me or behind me pull out is easy to perform in the other hand if I am on top of him cum inside is the most confortable option. And, if you use a condom, does he stay inside or does he have to pull out? Same as above, And,Gentlemen: How do you feel about these questions? Most of men including my husband always warn/ask before cumming, regardless if is oral sex or intercourse (with or without condoms). I have seen them always happy regardless.

Most of our action happens with our closed group. Most of the ladies prefer that the guys release inside them. There are a few that get off on the guys pulling out and jerking a big load on them. Personally It’s the height of pleasure when I feel a guy’s hard cock pulsing and releasing a load inside me. I love it that my pussy feels that good to him. It also feels incredible when they are balls deep and I’m stretched and filled with their cock. One nighters - it’s all about the condom, a blowjob or a hand job.

Inside, always. And I much prefer in my pussy than my ass or mouth, although I will eagerly swallow if that's where the moment happens. When he cums in my vagina sperm keep swimming further in and I can keep a living part of a man (or two or three, or several times, four) alive inside of me for days, which is a real turn-on for me. I even think about having another man's sperm still in me when I am having sex days later. In my stomach or ass that isn't going to happen, I assume those little confused swimmers meet a quick demise. After Clair got accidentally pregnant with hubby, I decided to get pregnant as quickly as possible so we could have our babies as close as possible. Hubby, boyfriend Red, and I agreed that I would go off birth control and let the fastest sperm win. It was the most sexually charged intercourse I have ever had.

Single guys wanting to swing, here are some tips for your profile: Sincerity - The reason most single guys fuck things up is they forget the most basic rule and that an invitation into the bedroom with a couple should be treated like a gift. Yes there are some hardcore bed-notchers but most couples want a fun experience with single guys who appreciate being invited. They are inviting you to have sex with the one person they love more than anything in the world. Attention - This is the ONLY thing you should be offering them. There are a million guys out there with dicks. Thick, fat, long, etc. Almost always, the more attentive you are the better your chances will be, not any physical endowment (yes there are exceptions) so if you are pitching anything, make it be about how you will ensure that their wife is the center of attention and make it known in your profile that you are capable of being respectful because you can be a rock star but it's not going to get you past the guy if you are not going to treat his wife the way HE feels she should be treated. What do you have to offer besides sex? Do you dance, can you hold a conversation? We typically will meet somewhere for drinks then the wife likes to go dancing to see if there is an attraction with the guy. This is where you can make the difference in sex for one night or a regular invitation. Be different because I promise you, no matter how good looking you are, how well physically fit you are, how much stamina, etc. There are 100 profiles before and after you that look the same. Don't offer nude pictures. Have pictures that are attractive, like you are going to look when you go out on a date. Not a selfie of you in the mirror flexing your muscles. If you are taking selfies, take the shit/clutter out of the picture. Nothing worse than a picture of you in the bathroom with a roll of toilet paper on the counter and your Prozac bottle next to a dirty bong. A good picture of you in jeans and a nice shirt will go much further. How about things you like to do? Tell us a little about you, not what you want to do to our wives. Make us like you. Here are some things you can do if you meet them at a club or if you are cold contacting a couple at a club: If you see a couple, don't follow them around like a stalker and try to sit next to them everywhere they go. It's creepy. If they keep moving away, take it as a hint, you're not doing it for them. If you think a couple has looked at you once or twice, maybe, just maybe, you are a contender so introduce yourself politely. Tell them your name, say something nice that you noticed about the wife but make sure you also talk to the guy. Don't blow the guy off whatever you do. Include him in the conversation. If after a couple minutes, if YOU are the one continually having to start the conversation, tell them it was nice meeting them and excuse yourself by saying something like, it was nice meeting you both. If you are interested in a single guy I would consider is a privilege and move on. You will leave a much better impression then if you just keep trying to create something out of thin air because they may or may not be looking for a single guy THAT night but you might stay in their mind for when they are. Be genuinely interested in them but don't ask questions like, where do you work, what gym do you go to, also creepy and stalkerish... You can ask things like where are they from but after that bridge out to topics of interest besides sex. Ask if they (yes, they) would like to dance. You just blew past the other 80 single guys in the club right there. Use common sense. Despite the fact they are at the club, you can't assume that they are anything other than voyeurs or exhibitionist and no matter how hard you try, nothing is going to happen. Understand that. If you stop thinking so hard about getting laid and think more about how to turn on the girl while establishing a bond with the husband, your chances will triple.

Display a little class and erudition. While we seldom make use of single males (most of our 3-somes involve the male half of a couple where the wife is unavailable but welcomes the inclusion)we are incredibly turned off by the thuggish nature of some of the postings on some websites. Last week, we saw a pic of a male grasping his clearly impressive sized johnson with the comment "wadup! For da ladies only, wdyt". Blocked immediately. This week was a pic of a large, heavily veined erection with the caption, "bbc bull here.Love to dominate white women". Again, blocked immediately. 3-somes with a couple aren't about the single guy, they are about the desires of the inviting couple. Seldom do single guys grasp that concept

Here is another tip for Single males. Read the couples profile. I can't tell you how many birds we get from single guys who can't read the DO NOT CONTACT US line in the profile. Yes we like to include Single males in our playtime but we will make the decision if we want to contact you. Also if you are going to take the risk and sent the bird to us make sure you say something that would peek our interest in you. The famous one liners will get you blocked in a second. Hey I'm _________ want to chat?? or the Your hot let's meet. That is going to get you blocked. Another thing for singles to remember if you bond with the husband on line you better make sure you are available when you say you are, otherwise you will never get that second chance to make a good first impression

We have one coulple and one single lady we play unprotected with. We (the men) cum whenever and where ever we get the chance. If we're fucking we cum in their pussy, if we're getting head we cum in their mouths.

There has only been *one* instance that I've (f) played w/ someone w/o a condom. It is one of our rules, no glove no love, but there weren't any present. Lyle and I discussed it and decided that it was ok because 1. He's an old bf of mine and a really good friend. 2. He hasn't been w/ anyone else in over a year. 3. He's clean (been tested). I let him cum inside me, simply because I'm sterile and I wanted to feel it. Lyle and I both got sterilized in the last year, 3 kids is enough, and we don't need any surprizes in the lifestyle! Condoms fail sometimes - why chance it?

I would have to agree with "it depends on who it's with". My first time with another man (with hubby present ofcourse) we used a condom, and we do use condoms with guys I find at partys that want to fuck me right then. Sometimes at really wild parties hubby lets me troll around and get fucked. Then I return with quite a grin and he knows I've been both pleasured and safe. Now we do have a regular couple that we fuck together and I let him cum in my pussy and hubby cums in hers. Then the girls lick our man's cum from each other. I do give oral without a condom but only hubby cums in my mouth. So it really just depends on the situation.

It depends on the couple for us also but we never use condoms for oral. Adam says "Why bother?" and I detest the taste of latex. When we are using condoms I will sometimes finish the other male orally or ask him to pull out and finish on my chest. One the rare occasion we don't use a condom I don't really care but there is something very naughty about having the seed of two different men inside me.

Even when we don’t use a condom, Sheryl doesn’t mind having a guy cum inside her pussy. However, she prefers to have him finish in her mouth. How does Greg feel about the question? It’s a legitimate one. Whenever Greg is ready to cum, he usually asks the lady where she would like him to do so. Most ladies consent to have him cum inside her pussy, even without a condom. However, he will occasionally request for the lady to finish him with her mouth.

Being young I have been swinging with the same group for several years and we all enjoy good naked parties. If i trust the guy i will permit him to cum inside me and let me enjoy the warmth of his cum. As far as oral goes I much prefer that he withdraw and let me see it "cumming"

We do our safe sex evaluations early in the friendship. If we feel there is any possibility of a problem, be it pregnancy or stds, we don't play with that couple. That's probably why we've only played with five couples in 24 years. In the past, when we've decided a couple was within our "safety envelope" we've played with no restrictions. Mrs. Alura and I were talking about this subject recently. "When I take a guy's cock into my mouth," she said, "I expect that I'll be drinking his cum shortly. He doesn't always cum in my mouth, but I always expect it. Same thing with my pussy. If I didn't feel safe with him, I wouldn't be in bed with him." And I wouldn't be in bed with his wife. Again, that's how we've done it in the past. How we approach this issue in the future will depend entirely on the couple we're approaching it with.