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  1. 6 points
    100% on communication and trust. After we got past the soft swap stage, we both had each other’s consent to do anything we wanted to do with others. I trust my wife not to do anything that would be unsafe for either of us (such as foregoing a condom). It is so much easier to trust your spouse and allow them to express themself without my judgment or criticism. But I think that our level of trust comes from open and clear communication. It develops over time. She would tell me other men’s sneaky tricks to avoid condoms, launch into anal, etc. We are usually in the same room, but even if we are not, I trust her.
  2. 3 points
    It's no longer party affiliation. It's what party affiliations have become. The labels are surrogates for sets of polarized positions that allow for no middle ground. The nature of relationships (vertical or horizontal) requires acknowledgement, respect, compromise. The "Don't Ask, Don't Tell, Don't Go There" aspect of politics, religion and so on at LS parties is understandable as a pragmatic exclusion-avoidance strategy. It doesn't solve the underlying challenge of finding common ground beyond the most banal topics.
  3. 3 points
    Swinging can be complicated, and rules will be broken. But they should generally be broken slowly and not right away. It’s normal for one partner to feel like the other is moving too fast - especially at first. Also normal to have a little bit of performance anxiety. Be patient, open, and understanding with each other. To answer your question, for us kissing is an important part of warm ups and foreplay. My wife generally won’t get in the mood easily without a makeout session first. It never made sense for us to forbid it.
  4. 2 points
    Until you have 100% honesty, trust, and communication you should step back and reevaluate why you’re doing this.
  5. 2 points
    I was going to reply to this post, but Lionheart above me nailed it! Time to take a step back and get the communication thing fixed before you go any further.
  6. 2 points
    It isn't a question of whether or not me or anyone else considers "kissing" to be cheating. It's a question of honesty, openness and communication. It sounds like she isn't being honest and open about what happened. You said already that she bent or broke your rules. It sounds like she may have done other things that you aren't comfortable with and she knows, or fears, that you wouldn't be or she wouldn't be hiding them from you. It's pretty clear you guys have some issues to sort out. It sounds like you guys need to stop playing and start talking. She needs to be open and honest about what happened. You need to be open and honest about how it makes you feel. Try not to turn it into a fight, because that won't help anything in the long run. Just have a real conversation about it. If you can do that, you can resolve this. If you can't, my advice is to stop swinging until you can.
  7. 1 point
    I cannot figure out why bad breath is such a common problem at swing clubs. The part that baffles me the most is that we know a few men whose breath have hang time. I mean it's so bad that I have a problem talking to them. I like them so much but I cannot handle the smell. My question is why don't their partners tell them? Or, like I often do, offer them a mint? One of these couples both husband and wife are dentists! Thoughts?
  8. 1 point
    Listerine makes a product that is a dissolvable film square that you place on your tongue. It comes in a very small and compact carrying case. I often take one and offer one to my swing partner. Fun and effective!
  9. 1 point
    I'll try to make it short. My wife and I are very new to the LS. A couple of months ago we met an experienced couple who we hit off well with, we hung out with them again to get know each other better. Now fast forward to this past weekend when we met up with them again. We went to a bar together and the drinks were flowing, and we were feeling good. Welp, they invited us back to their house and we said sure. The other husband was on a motorcycle and asked if my wife could ride back with him on the bike and I could follow his wife back, and against my better judgment I let her. My wife likes to ride motorcycles, so the other wife suggested they take the long way home. Well, it took me and the other wife about 5 minutes to get back, and it took he and my wife a good 15 minutes. When my wife walked in she was happy and giggly and told me the the other husband had something to ask me, and of course I knew what it was. He asked to swap and I said yes. So for our first experience we attempted a full swap. He and my wife had full intercourse, and unfortunately I had some issues with getting it up and didn't get to have a full swap. My wife allowed some things to happen in the course of her swap that for sure bent, if not broke, our rules. However that's a conversation for another day. The day after when my wife and I discussed our experience she wasn't forthcoming with everything and even lied about some things that happened. But a few days later when we discussed it again.I asked her about the motorcycle ride, and how we all went from no talk about a swap that night, to when they got back, they wanted to swap. She finally told me that she told him that she was horny and needed to have sex. She says he then pulled over, pulled his junk out, and told her if she wanted it, then they would have to ask me. She then says he kissed her. She said that was all that happened, which I'm not sure I totally believe her on that. So, my question is, is him pulling his junk out, and them kissing before any permission was given, considered cheating? Any advice is appreciated.
  10. 1 point
    For some reason I find that NOT being able to share political or religious beliefs an extreme turn off. This seems to filter out those who personal psychologies do not suit my own. There is no need to agree with me. There is just the need to be able to state and defend their viewpoints and listen as I do the same. Most of my closest friends approach life from a perspective much different than mine. I value this. While I am right most of the time I would worry about a world that was totally in lock step with me. Perhaps my gonads are too intimately connected with my head but those conversations take place early on.
  11. 1 point
    JoAnn and I occasionally attend parties that are hosed by a married couple who are long-time friends. At one of these, a different married couple of our acquaintance perceived that they had picked up a hint that we were members of the same political party toward which their feelings lean. In order to steer clear of any trouble by naming an actual party, I will refer to it here as the “Circle-Trigon Party”. Knowing the rules that our host and hostess have set up for all of their parties, we did our best to disengage ourselves from the conversation. That having failed, we did our best to disengage ourselves from these people who were trying to lead us outside of the party’s rules. They had actually guessed correctly. Our feeling do lean this same way but it would not have mattered whether feeling matched or did not match, we just don’t do that stuff at swingers’ parties. At a more recent parties, we had taken note of the fact that the Circle-Trigon people have not been in-attendance. Being mildly interested, I asked our hosts. Making me raise my right hand and place my left hand upon The Swinger’s Manual, they made me take an oath that I would repeat to nobody what he was about to say. He told me that Mr. and Ms. Trigon had been disinvited. The reasons did not include the fact that they were members of the Circle-Trigon Party included the simple fact that they had brought up the subject of somebody's political beliefs. We told our hosts that we are in complete agreement with their rule. You can say what you believe on Facebook, Twitter, YouTube, or Instagram, but you are not allow to stir this particular pot at a Swingers’ Party.
  12. 1 point
    This about as far as I've dared to go. I call it bait. Got cream-pied seven times in 12 hours after taking this one off.
  13. 1 point
    For the first 5 years of our relationship, you could say that I was a prude. Example: One time Karen wore a shear see thru blouse, I got upset with her because her bra was visible thru the blouse. I was very possessive of her. That changed after a night out with some of my friends. There were four couples and we were all drinking. One of the women was rubbing my cock under the table, and the talk was very risque. I could tell that this group had switched their partners back and forth. The idea began to excite me. At that time Karen was not on any birth control, so, that was totally out of the question, but the seed was planted. After a number of miscarriages, she finally gave birth to our first child, and had an IUD placed in her uterus. The idea of swinging had gone away, until she told me that she was sure the two households up the road had been swapping wives and the two women had actually moved in with the other husband. That lasted a couple of months, then they each went home to their husbands. We would visit one of the neighbors that were closest to us and play cards. The old scenario of my swinging friends came back to me. It took me some time to figure out how to approach Karen. Finally I had the idea of asking her to go to the neighbors, bra-less. I told her, “Dale always went bra-less and you should do the same.” She said, “That’s alright for her. not to wear one, but she has A-cup breasts.” “It wasn’t fair to her husband, because I got a good look at his wife’s tits and he did not get to see any thing from you,” I told her. She relented. I had her put on a light very sheer blouse that I had removed the top buttons from. The one button below her breasts, I had weakened to only one strand of thread, so a slight pull would make the button come off. It was great, her pokies were very noticeable. And when the button finally came off Bob could see her entire breast and her erect nipple. He couldn’t keep his eyes off of her. When his wife Dale noticed that Karen's blouse was open, she gave Karen the high sign. Karen pushed the material back together, but when Dale wasn’t looking she let it open up again, to give Bob another view. He then suggested that we all play strip poker, but Dale would have none of it. That moving in between her and the other wife had almost cost her marriage. This was important to me, because now I knew that Karen liked the idea of getting sexual. After that, we were good friends with these people. They lent us their porn movies, old 8mm film, and they took Karen and I to the adult store in a nearby city. Then, one night after we left their house, I put plan B to work. As we were making love, I said, “Honey wouldn’t you like it if it was Bob sucking on your nipple, and putting his finger inside you?” She sighed satisfactorily. It was obvious by her reaction that she liked the idea. After I penetrated her, I said: “Would you like it if it was Bob’s cock inside you?” Once again, another positive reaction. When we were done, I told her that: “You came hard to the idea of having sex with Bob, didn’t you?” She passed it off, saying, “It’s a real turn-on, but I wouldn’t ever really do it.” Over the next few months, I kept it up. Finally, I said to her: “Why don’t we hint to Dale and Bob if they would like to swap partners? I know you like the idea”. She said, “I do, but I know Dale has sworn off such ideas, so I know she wouldn’t agree.” I replied, “How about letting Bob come to the house for a threesome?” She said, “No I wouldn’t do that to her, besides they live way too close, But if we found a male, and I had sex with just you and him, no female, I definitely would consider it.” She agreed that we would go to bars and clubs that were away from were we lived, she would look for someone that she was attracted to. She did. Read OUR FIRST MMF ENCOUNTER The photo attached is of her leaving the hotel to go home. With Steve’s spunk still in her tummy.
  14. 1 point
    I hear what you're saying... but I think it's a sad commentary on our society, or at least American society since you and I are in America and I, at least, can only really speak to that (having never spent a significant enough amount of time in any other societies to intelligently comment). It basically means that either a) we have become so polarized that we can't discuss differing sociopolitical points of view without it becoming uncomfortable at best, hostile at worst, or b) we have a large enough population who hold such genuinely extreme points of view that there can be, in good conscience, no middle ground. I think it would be nice, especially in a community that prides itself on open, honest communication, if we could actually have intelligent discussions of complex issues. Of course, I am my own worst example... because there are some viewpoints of religion, politics and/or social issues which I will not engage in conversation with because I find them so extreme that there be, in good conscience, no middle ground.
  15. 1 point
    We have. Lionheart72, had tumbles in the hay with several people who do not share our views of politics, religion, social issues. We do believe it is very poor form to express these views at a party -- thus invading many people's happy spaces.
  16. 1 point
    You do realize you kind of just violated that oath to a potential audience of thousands, right? Just saying... I would say we are perfectly comfortable eliminated potential playmates who we don't feel comfortable or compatible with for whatever reason. Strongly held personal beliefs, be they about politics, religion, social issues or whatever shape an individuals personality and may or may not be enough to eliminate someone from consideration, depending on the situation.
  17. 1 point
    Their party, their rules... End of discussion. That said, in our one-on-one play we feel perfectly comfortable eliminating potential playmates bases upon politics. Our party, our rules...
  18. 1 point
    It's always cheating if your spouse does not know or you feel you have to hide something!
  19. 1 point
    I like it when a guy kisses my ass, before and after doggy to show his appreciation.
  20. 1 point
    What I really wish that I had are intimate photos or videos of when I first got over my jealousy sufficiently to set up hubby with friends and acquaintances of mine. None were ever taken of them during sex, but seeing those women again in person or just pictures makes me wet. The best situations for me now are when we get together with the women who are married and their husbands. The situation for me is maddening in a very pleasant way, especially the couple who openly laugh about when she and my husband were sex partners at my urging. More than a good Catholic girl ever expected.
  21. 1 point
    Definitely have, a lot. And it's not easy being the lighting guy, camera man, sound engineer, production assistant, the director AND the talent. 3-some and 4-somes are easier as a player who is taking the bench for a shift can hold the camera. And it's fun later to see their perspective/ what interests them. Gotta a nice library built up now so I whack-it to my wife like 95-percent of the time. She's my favorite porn star. ??
  22. 1 point
    It's not that, it's just that the pictures or video didn't turn out as well or capture what I saw and heard when the activity was taking place. Body parts that looked pretty and sexy when seen live, had closeups that could pass for alien creatures that had landed. It was funny when we would look at them later and ask each other who and what is that? Still, I wish I had kept them, a record of the early days of our play.
  23. 1 point
    Back when we had cameras that were stand alone devices, we took a few pictures and recorded some short videos. We would never do that on a device which is or potentially is connected to the internet. As you said, most of it was disappointing and we not only deleted, but also destroyed it all. We are all still in good shape, but I now wish we still had some of those earlier pictures of us in our twenties.
  24. 1 point
    Last time I went to a club I wore this! The high slit makes it clear I'm not sporting any panties.
  25. 1 point
    The etymology of the word "cunt" is that it has Norse/Germanic origins (that's why it sounds hard and strong) and is actually old. From Wikipedia: "The word in its modern meaning is attested in Middle English. Proverbs of Hendyng, a manuscript from some time before 1325, includes the advice: "Ȝeue þi cunte to cunnig and craue affetir wedding. (Give your cunt wisely and make [your] demands after the wedding.)" The use of the word for me is situational. If someone at work calls me a dumb cunt, I'd be offended, but if they called me a ambitious cunt or a smart cunt, it would be a compliment - not only am I "ambitious" or "smart," but I'm strong as well. There is a story I posted here years ago about the time I was given more responsibility at work, including some purchasing decisions handled by a fellow that was retiring. The retiring fellow never sought other bids or negotiated better terms with a particular vendor, in exchange the vendor guy (also older) covering for his mistakes. With the three of us at dinner, the vendor (who treated me like a grandchild and called me "sweetie" sometimes) said it would be the same for me. I chose my words carefully and said, "Not this cunt." (I considered saying pussy or bitch.) It set the tone for the relationship, I got better prices, etc. As a physical term, "pussy" and "cunt" to refer to the genital region generally, while vagina is a specific place.
  26. 1 point
    I do love doing that. We were out this weekend and I had my pussy on full display several times. It’s also an incredible rush for me when I undress at the nude beach. It’s a mix of true nudists, swingers and total voyeurs. It’s pretty easy to discern who is who, so we always hang close to the voyeurs. They are usually single guys. Just love baring all for them and pretending to ignore them watching me. If he’s hot, i’ll go out of my way to make sure he gets a full view of what he came for. Hubby loves doing the same for the gay men or swinger wives.
  27. 1 point
    Went shopping yesterday and went to several clothing stores. She intentionally left the curtain open just enough so people could see her changing. I stayed back so I could watch reactions. Fun time!
  28. 1 point
    1. Sex is better without condoms 2. Sex is better without STDs and STIs 3. See rule number 2.
  29. 1 point
    As a truck driver, I can see down into the cars as they pass me. WOW what I can and have seen! But IF any of you ladies want/need to drive around with your tops off/down, don't let me stop you. The truckers out here love to see a sexy lady / bare breast / long legs... all I will say is KEEP IT UP! Thanks for the little peek... truckerbuddy
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