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If you get fired or told you can’t fly, you can refuse to accept it all you want … but you’ll still be out of a job and on the “no fly” list. It really won’t be your choice at that point!

Hello everyone, Firstly, I wanted to introduce myself. Husband here, 46 of Middle Eastern background married to a beautiful white woman of 37 years of age. I am 5.10 and weigh 210 lbs. I am considered muscular with short hair and an enthusiastically friendly, extroverted personality. She is a shy, introvert who takes her time to open up. She is 5.2, full figured and buxom with large breasts that always get attention. Yet no one has seen them in their majestic glory, except for one man. We have a passionate, romantic relationship and damn I love her. She told me she was a suppressing, bi-sexual woman who often finds herself being attracted to women. In public, I noticed that sometimes it was not unusual for certain women to notice her too. She confessed her attraction to women and told me that she has those feelings in her. I did not mind since a lot of women have bi-sexual thoughts. After sometime she asked if I would be ok if she is with a woman as well. We spoke about it. I did not want her to suppress her sexuality as it can lead to depression and frustration. She said that if I put enough trust in her then she is open to the idea of us having a threesome or a foursome. We discussed, swinging. To be honest, I never met anyone who was into this lifestyle so I thought this would be a good place to have this discussion going. I am starting to think seriously about it and I feel that the best way to start would be to find a couple that understands that we are both new to this. If we could start by same room sex and the ladies trying out each other then that would allow us to make friends and also enter into this in ways where no one is feeling that their limits are being crossed. I do not have any problems with another woman pleasuring my wife in front of me. I would also be extremely aroused to see that women being loved by her lover while I love my wife. A full swap? I guess it would depend on how the first date went. We live in the DC/VA area and wanted to know what would be the best way to proceed and make friends. Choc and Van

Male pictures are important for us, we need to confirm his age and see if he is reasonably fit, we are not after dick pictures, we do understand men are proud of their dicks, but we all have genitals and for us, it is more important a full body picture of the couple together than XXX pictures.

Welcome VanillaNChocolate! Congratulations on opening this door on your relationship :) Understand that you are on a journey, and there's no finish line and no race. I don't get the feeling that things are being rushed, but I wanted to tell you that so there is an understanding that patience has its rewards, especially in this case. It is wonderful that you are considering doing this to allow your wife to explore her attraction to women. If what you are looking for is a single, bi-sexual woman you are looking for what we call a "unicorn"; fabled to exist, but no one's actually seen one. Ok, that's not entirely true :) There are couples that have had FMF threesomes, but it is not at all common to find a single, bi-sexual woman. For lack of a better term, demand for such women far, far, far exceeds demand. You will have more opportunities for exploring this if you are open to the idea of another couple. As for possibilities in your area; there are a number of websites that cater to this lifestyle. A favorite around here is swinglifestyle.com (commonly referred to as sls). Another is swingtowns.com. Both of those are dating sites for people in the lifestyle. There are various in-person clubs as well. There's a listing of clubs on swinglifestyle.com at https://www.swinglifestyle.com/swingers/clubs/virginia/ and https://www.swinglifestyle.com/swingers/clubs/maryland/ If you have any questions, let us know. We're a helpful bunch!

We've noticed that too, and we think it's bc women in the Lifestyle tend to keep themselves in better shape than the men, but we agree that it's a no-go if hubby won't put himself out there. How can anybody think a woman will engage another couple sight unseen? In these days of online everything, we have replaced our first meet - which used to be at pubs or coffee shops - with Zoom meetings. You get to see and chat with ppl, and if the decision is 'No' it's easier on Zoom than face-to-face.

Thanks very much everyone. This post has been enlightening. I can totally see why a unicorn would be so rare. I will surely check out the resources. Thanks.

Lovefest04, I get the feeling that you are a young and healthy person. Your anti-Western medicine approach works for your age and health condition. Unfortunately, many people are older than you, have pre-existing conditions, are immunocompromised, etc. For those people, the covid vaccine is a life saver. So is monoclonal antibody treatment. If people with an advanced age and or pre-existing conditions followed your lead, there would be millions more dead Americans.

Small note, but a single woman is a unicorn. A single bi-sexual woman is known as a golden unicorn...much more rare than a mere unicorn. Too bad that there aren't as many unicorns in the L/S as men...or even half as many...on even 1 out of every 100. 😁

I never said I was anti-medicine. In the off chance that I end up in a hospital (the odds are in my favor that I will survive COVID) I would take medicine. Remember as of last night 98.4% of all Americans that tested positive survivied. Of those that assed away, 81% or over are over the age of 65 WITH 2 or more comorbidities. That's not me nor is it most of American under the age of 50. So, Until I am sick, I choose to keep myself healthy without vaccines and I hope that as a free person I am allowed that right. Luvtosuc: Mandates are a solution looking for a problem. The vaccine will not stop the spread of this virus. READ the data I added to a previous post. Oh, i just realized. Luvtosuc must own a lot of Pfizer stock....now it makes sense. You are all missing my point so I apologize for not making it more clear. The risk of death for people under the age of 65 is very low, as a percentage of cases, in fact not selecting out comorbidity, so all cases, have a recovery rate of 99.623% based on data from February 21. So, before the medical community had any other treatment options, any real understanding of the disease. . I choose to take that risk. Now Lovtosuc, huddled in the corner in fear of everything including his own shadow, will tell me that by my refusal to be vaccinated, I am a stupid person who is responsible for the spread of the disease. That is just not true. https://www.ucdavis.edu/health/covid-19/news/viral-loads-similar-between-vaccinated-and-unvaccinated-people Here's the real problem: Mass vaccination with a “leaky” vaccine– that does not completely neutralize the infection– applies “selective pressure” on the virus which promotes the emergence of variants. Immunologists have known this for a long time, in fact, some call it “Virology 101”. Canadian Vaccinologist Dr. Byram Bridle explained this in a recent interview. Here’s what he said: “We have to look no further than … the emergence of antibiotic resistance … The principle is this: If you have a biological entity that is prone to mutation — and the SARS-CoV-2, like all coronaviruses is prone to mutation — and you apply narrowly focused selective pressure that is nonlethal, and you do this over a long period of time, this is the recipe for driving the emergence of novel variants. This is exactly what we’re doing. Our vaccines are focused on a single (spike) protein of the virus, so the virus only has to alter one protein, and the vaccines don’t come close to providing sterilizing immunity.” Back to my point in a previous post. Think Antibiotic resistance in hospital settings. Ask any Dr., nurse, etc about that. They will all tell you that hospitals struggle with infections due to antibiotic resistance, which has been caused by the same narrowly focused strategy. Lead by Merck by the way. I said before, that none of these posts will change the minds of anyone. I do enjoy the banter back and forth. I hope people will read the data (see previous post) and stop pointing fingers at each other. I am not the problem here. I did not create this virus, I do not spread this virus. I am not afraid of this virus. Why are we all so willing to turn on each other in the face of challenges? Why so much us vs them finger pointing? Why the need to inflict ones belief's upon others? Oh and for those that are truly concerned about me, no I didn't get the tax return completed last night so off I go. Oh and I don't do flu shots either, so bring it on. With love and respect.

I am 38 and I received 2 weeks ago the second dosage of three,

We started with small things, we progressed slowly, baby steps, we always check on each other during and after, after 8 years in the lifestyle we have no regrets, we value the most our relationship and that has always been the priority.

Well, good evening. As lawyers, you must support my constitutional if not human right to freedom, free speech, the right to assemble etc etc.....thank you. because without that, what does America and democracy stand for? njbm: My point about references was in response to your assertions which did not include references. I come from a long line of attorneys and learned long ago the skill of debate. When it comes to COVID I try my best to provide references that are not tweets, tiktok's or main stream media reports. I look deeper. And I share. To answer your question. Pharmaceuticals are my last choice when treating disease. So far it's served me well. Including after a 10 day trip during the last week of February 2020 in Manhattan at an oncology convention for Dr's where I met 100's of folks, rode the subways, attended two plays, ate in restaurants and generally had very close contact with lots of folks, only to return to the west coast a few days before they shut down NY. I can't imagine that I didn't come into contact with Sars. All that said, I believe that drugs have a place in our society. I think those over the age of 65 with health challenges should strongly consider the vaccine. But no one should be forced or coerced to inject a drug into their body. And there is simply no evidence that supports healthy children being injected with the vaccine. None. The argument comes down to this. Can I be required to take an experimental vaccine? I think not. And especially if the rational is the flawed concept that we all have to do our duty to protect those around us. The only argument I can think of that holds any weight is if un-vaccinated people directly caused harm to others, thus the "doing our duty." However, the science is telling us that just isn't the case. Vaccinated people carry it, spread it and get sick from it as well. Blaming the spread on un-vaccinated folks is simply wrong and only benefits those profiting from the sale of all those little vials. The vaccines never promised, nor were they designed to kill the virus, only to help people NOT die from it. If you look back at the information from the CDC and alike, back 10 months or more ago, they were telling us that COVID (actually it's Sars not COVID) would become endemic as the flu or cold has. So, step right up nd get your COVID booster each year with your flu shot...... And if you understand mutations, having a vaccine that only focuses on one part of the virus and does not intend to kill it, actually helps it mutate. It makes it worse. Unfortunately, this vaccine isn't really that new, it's just a version of years of failed mRNA research. But have at it. I do not pretend to tell anyone else how to take care of their health. And I'd like everyone not to tell me how to take care of mine. And while I'm at it, I refuse to accept mandates, job loss or the inability to fly due to all the fear that's been created. Now with that said I have a complex tax return to complete or old uncle SAM is gonna get mad at me. Have a wonderful evening. I honestly mean that.

VAERS is a raw data gathering system related to vaccines not deaths related to COVID infection. Both systems of data collection are subject to inexperienced and even intentional human input error that shakes out on later analysis. Below is a quote from vaers.hhs.gov Evaluating VAERS Data When evaluating data from VAERS, it is important to note that for any reported event, no cause-and-effect relationship has been established. Reports of all possible associations between vaccines and adverse events (possible side effects) are filed in VAERS. Therefore, VAERS collects data on any adverse event following vaccination, be it coincidental or truly caused by a vaccine. The report of an adverse event to VAERS is not documentation that a vaccine caused the event. VAERS Data Limitations Millions of vaccines are given each year to children less than 1 year old in the United States, usually between 2 and 6 months of age. At this age, infants are at greatest risk for certain medical adverse events, including high fevers, seizures, and sudden infant death syndrome (SIDS). Some infants will experience these medical events shortly after a vaccination by coincidence. These coincidences make it difficult to know whether a particular adverse event resulted from a medical condition or from a vaccination. Therefore, vaccine providers are encouraged to report all adverse events following vaccination, whether or not they believe the vaccination was the cause.

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My husband loves seeing me giving and receiving pleasure, we also enjoy lots of dirty talking, I love to perform for him and put on a good show for everybody involved. I guess he enjoys seeing me having sex because he is a man with no insecurities that really likes my body and loves me very deeply and wants me to have all the fun I can get in this world. He always tells me I am his favourite porn star 😈

Damn, girl. Your nipples are larger than the entirety of my breasts.

One of our biggest pet peeves of online searching is this! Lots of pics of the wife and none or just useless cock pics of the husband. We have put on all of our profiles that if there are not good pics that clearly show the body types of everyone who wants to be involved then we are not interested in even talking and cock pics do not count, because they are useless in determining attraction. We stick by this regardless of what message they send. You can see plenty of both of us, we expect the same in return. Common sense really. Your husband should respect the fact that you are not interested in fucking men that are not attractive to you regardless of what the other wife looks like and should not even start conversations until that is resolved. This isn’t all about him.

Concur with hunterdon--the first meet, which used to be coffee or a drink or a snack, is so readily replaced by a video virtual meet and greet with all four.

Stag refers to a husband that is the dominant player she can be with other men only if he approves. Often the stag wants to be the one to pick the partners, the wife has no control over who he picks and what he says they can do. This is not something I'd ever agree too, I pick the men I want to be with as I need chemistry to even get in the right head space for sex, if my husband chose I'd never get laid. I prefer hotwife.

My husband often refers to himself as being orally bi, he has no interest in fucking a man or being fucked by a man, but in the heat of the moment he is okay with sucking dick with me or letting a man suck his dick with me. For me its hot, Its an instant puddle in my panties. I could seriously watch him suck dick all day. And I like when I get a bisexual guy. I am bi and my husband enjoying sex is fun for me too.

I divorced my X because he liked guys more than paying attention to me. He is very attractive with a huge cock able to get anyone he wanted in bed. We used to take on guys together and I would fuck them till they couldn’t get it up anymore and then he would take over and fuck their asses. It was hot watching him in action. My ex and I are still good friends and he is also friends with my new husband/slave. I still fuck my ex when I can screw him into giving me what I want. When my ex found out that I was fucking my slave in the ass with a strap-on he wanted in on the action. The guys always watched sports together and became good friends. I had rule in the house that we would all be naked together. During half time I would fuck one or both of them. Sometimes I would have them DP me nice and slow. Once the guys got familiar being naked together and we’re starting to do some touchy feeling each others genitals I knew it was time to take the next step. I decided to give my new husband an education by turning my ex-husband loose. I decided to do the same technique and fucked my slave until he couldn’t get it up anymore and then I turned him over to my ex-husband. I held him over the leather divan in the living room while my ex-husband carefully took his anal cherry nice and slow fucking him for a good 15 minutes. My ex-husband wanted another fuck so after about an hour I sucked him hard and he fucked my slave again. Behind closed doors my husband learned how to suck cock and enjoy taking it in the ass. Now I have more time to spend with my girlfriend in bed while the boys are playing. My slave still thinks he’s straight but I know better.

There's a subtle difference again from hotwife, where there's no humiliation intended but the female takes the lead. This isn't something I get into much detail about on this forum, but in general, Mrs. E has always been the submissive partner. Having a conservative background, it makes it a little easier for her to open up if I take charge and coach her to where she wants to go. Even if she wants to do something, some anxiety will take over about her upbringing and why she shouldn't. It helps a lot to have me there leading her along so it's not all her idea. I know some people raise their hackles about power dynamics in sex, but this has really turned out well during MFM play, as having both me and her friend's husband leading her keeps her mind busy and it's easier for her to relax. Hotwifing/cuckolding is this whole other scary thing where she has to take charge of it all and that's pretty off the wall for her.

Hey there Mr. Wildfire, you sound pumped!! I was always afraid to tell Mr. LFM that I thought women were beautiful and that I wanted to play with them. I have no idea what I was afraid of -- maybe being shunned? Being thought less of? I have no idea. The first couple we ever played with -- she was bi. I guess I just kinda started playing with her while they both watched in awe. Mr. LFM was more in awe than her husband. He'd known she was bi. When we talked about me playing with her, he sounded about ecstatic as you regarding your wife. He absolutely had NO problem with me playing with other women. So far, I have played with many, and it just keeps getting better and better.